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Yeah, where are all the gays that like metal?

*shyly rises a hand*

Although I couldn't call myself a "metal fan". It's just that I'm rather open minded when it comes to music and there's few (doom / gothic / symphonic / melodic) metal bands I especially like.

You should've asked if he liked Ceremonials. The answer to that question alone has the potential to be a deal breaker.

Are you suggesting it's that bad? >_>
 
I wouldn't say I like metal broadly as a genre, but I do like some metal singers. They tend to have classical / operatic backgrounds, though.
 
Whilst we're on the subject of music, I just finished the new Nas album and I gotta say it was fucking awesome.
One or two "eh" songs but the rest is top notch!
 
CHEEZMO™;39975774 said:
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Love that episode.
 
The whole "Oh I dont mind gays, just stay invisible and dont lemme see it" thing pisses me off to no end and ordinary people have no concept of how it feels. I also hate it when a bunch of ignorant straight folks discuss gay issues like they are experts; its demeaning and it makes me feel less than human. OH YES, please discuss how I FEEL/THINK and what MY AGENDA is

It's truly amazing what people will discuss in front of people when they don't know anything about their beliefs. I was once at a dentist who was talking to his assistants about how gay marriage is the same thing as bestiality. I would have gotten into a full blown argument with him right there if his hands weren't in my mouth and I wasn't numbed up. I still regret not saying something to him later on about it. Obviously I don't go to him any longer and wouldn't if my teeth were falling out.

Yeah, where are all the gays that like metal?

I like metal! Viking metal FTW! I also listen to symphonic, gothic, power, progressive, etc.
 
CHEEZMO™;39980496 said:
Are they Finnish? I was told by someone a few weeks ago to listen to a Finnish metal band but forgot the name. Nightwish sounds familiar.

Finnish Symphonic Metal, yeah. Amazing stuff.

Here's one of their more popular songs (a little more emblematic of their pop-leaning than their metal-leaning).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIBdpFJyFkc

And one of the more symphonic insane masterpieces they've put out. Both from their 2004 album with their old (now fired) singer.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0VF0BlXP-0Y
 
Not a huge metal fan, but Nightwish is my favorite band. :)

Nightwish is a great band! Their music changed a little bit when they kicked Tarja out of the band because she was such a diva. Their new singer is still really good though.

And Ghost Love Score is my favorite song by them!
 
Talking about music everybody needs to listen to Frank Ocean's album. Probably the best album that came out this year (so far)


Frank Ocean came out as bi which in the hip hop world is a big deal. After he came out I thought to myself this will open the floodgates for more hip hop artists to come out and what do you know here is the second guy to come out of the closet. Times are changing folks

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WwTSPcNSi40
 
Time to ask for GayGAF's advice on personal matters once again. Tags for a little (perhaps-) TMI detail.

Things are going awesome with this guy I've been seeing. It's been about a month now already, and maybe 10 or 11 dates/hangouts (more of the latter).

We've definitely fooled around a couple times and had one nice long intimate night together. He's been awesome about not rushing right to fucking, but I can tell that he wants to get there sooner rather than later.

I've only done that a few times - both top and bottom - and only ever with one guy. Yeah, I'm headin into my late 20's, but I'm still a neophyte in that department. Frankly, it still just feels insanely weird/disconcerting to me (bottoming), or I feel barely anything at all (topping, with a condom; the only way I'd do it).

I definitely want to be able to do this for my partner, sooner rather than later.

I just need to get over this and do it right? It'll get more comfortable and easier?

Right now it's a combo of a) not feeling awesome, and b) paranoia in my head about hygeine issues -- it's a poophole; I'm fearful of...the obvious issues.

Any/all advice and words of encouragement appreciated.

Nightwish is a great band! Their music changed a little bit when they kicked Tarja out of the band because she was such a diva. Their new singer is still really good though.

And Ghost Love Score is my favorite song by them!

GLS is just something else. Truly magical. Nemo's my favorite jam by them at the moment, after the most recent album's "The Crow, The Owl and the Dove". Anette's really become part of the band, imo. I dig where the new material's going.
 
Time to ask for GayGAF's advice on personal matters once again. Tags for a little (perhaps-) TMI detail.

Things are going awesome with this guy I've been seeing. It's been about a month now already, and maybe 10 or 11 dates/hangouts (more of the latter).

We've definitely fooled around a couple times and had one nice long intimate night together. He's been awesome about not rushing right to fucking, but I can tell that he wants to get there sooner rather than later.

I've only done that a few times - both top and bottom - and only ever with one guy. Yeah, I'm headin into my late 20's, but I'm still a neophyte in that department. Frankly, it still just feels insanely weird/disconcerting to me (bottoming), or I feel barely anything at all (topping, with a condom; the only way I'd do it).

I definitely want to be able to do this for my partner, sooner rather than later.

I just need to get over this and do it right? It'll get more comfortable and easier?

Right now it's a combo of a) not feeling awesome, and b) paranoia in my head about hygeine issues -- it's a poophole; I'm fearful of...the obvious issues.

Any/all advice and words of encouragement appreciated.



GLS is just something else. Truly magical. Nemo's my favorite jam by them at the moment, after the most recent album's "The Crow, The Owl and the Dove". Anette's really become part of the band, imo. I dig where the new material's going.

Bottoming isn't something that most people like right away and it takes getting used to. I would say just take it very slow and use lots of lubrication. Don't go right at it and ease yourself into it. For the hygiene issue, just use a douche and thoroughly wash yourself afterwards.

Nemo is a fantastic song by Nightwish as well. I honestly haven't heard any of their new album and haven't heard anything after Dark Passion Play.
 
Bottoming isn't something that most people like right away and it takes getting used to. I would say just take it very slow and use lots of lubrication. Don't go right at it and ease yourself into it. For the hygiene issue, just use a douche and thoroughly wash yourself afterwards.

Every physical instinct in my body says "this is wrong, everything about this feels wrong and terrible, I have to stop this". Mentally I'm into it, but damn, everything goes to shit (not literally) once I've started.

Nemo is a fantastic song by Nightwish as well. I honestly haven't heard any of their new album and haven't heard anything after Dark Passion Play.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0cp46a7_0gY

Now!
 
Just kidding.

So name some metal bands which you enjoy.

Not a huge metal fan, but Nightwish is my favorite band. :)

I love Nightwish.

I've been listening to a lot of Powerwolf recently as well. I'm also a fan of Metallica (eighties, but who isn't?), Sonata Arctica, Dragonforce, Alestorm, Rammstein... kind of an eclectic mix since I'm not really knowledgeable about music in general and just sort of follow groups that I like.


Best. Ending. Ever.

We've definitely fooled around a couple times and had one nice long intimate night together. He's been awesome about not rushing right to fucking, but I can tell that he wants to get there sooner rather than later.

I've only done that a few times - both top and bottom - and only ever with one guy. Yeah, I'm headin into my late 20's, but I'm still a neophyte in that department. Frankly, it still just feels insanely weird/disconcerting to me (bottoming), or I feel barely anything at all (topping, with a condom; the only way I'd do it).

I definitely want to be able to do this for my partner, sooner rather than later.

I just need to get over this and do it right? It'll get more comfortable and easier?

Right now it's a combo of a) not feeling awesome, and b) paranoia in my head about hygeine issues -- it's a poophole; I'm fearful of...the obvious issues.

Any/all advice and words of encouragement appreciated.

I can't offer any advice since this sounds pretty similar to me. My ex and I, despite seeing each other for three years, didn't really go that far. I had my fair share of hang ups about it. Sounds like you've even done more than I too
I've only topped.
I imagine it does get easier though. So... yeah, no advice but I do sympathize.


No love for Planet Hell? Or The Poet and the Pendulum?
 
Talking about music everybody needs to listen to Frank Ocean's album. Probably the best album that came out this year (so far)


Frank Ocean came out as bi which in the hip hop world is a big deal. After he came out I thought to myself this will open the floodgates for more hip hop artists to come out and what do you know here is the second guy to come out of the closet. Times are changing folks

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WwTSPcNSi40
Wow just wow.
 
Every physical instinct in my body says "this is wrong, everything about this feels wrong and terrible, I have to stop this". Mentally I'm into it, but damn, everything goes to shit (not literally) once I've started.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0cp46a7_0gY

Now!

Ha ha, well as long as it isn't literally. That part of the body will instinctively clench up when you bottom. With the right lubrication and the right person to take it slowly and maybe use something smaller at first you will have a much better experience.

Loved the song! I will have to listen to more of that album.
 
Nightwish is horrible without Tarja, I can't listen to it.

Let's talk real Nightwish, Deep Silent Complete Nightwish.

It kills me I never saw them live and now I can't listen to songs like this live anymore, Annete just isn't up to the task.
 
But what about the 69 eyes or Apocalyptica? Even Children of Bodom, which sadly haven't been following but I should, they are pretty amazing.

Oh yes Fintroll rocks for sure though.

Apocalyptica is fantastic.

Two recommendations for Finntroll? Will check.

(And Annette isn't that bad.)
 
A good chunk of it is mindset. If you're not into it its going to be a bit uncomfortable even once you're loosened up. The prostate is a powerful thing but you have to be for it to get things really going. It was pretty much impossible for me to stay erect when bottoming for my bf at first. But the last couple of months its gotten mind numbingly better.

my bf figured out my kryptonite last month. Receiving head while simultaneously getting my butt teased by his dick sends me into a bottoming frenzy.
 
But what about the 69 eyes or Apocalyptica? Even Children of Bodom, which sadly haven't been following but I should, they are pretty amazing.

Oh yes Fintroll rocks for sure though.

I haven't ever really looked too far into Children of Bodom. I like the 69 Eyes and Apocalyptica though. I have actually seen Apocalyptica twice in concert.

Ensiferum, Turisas, and Korpiklaani are all very good viking metal bands from Finland.

Sonata Arctica is fantastic progressive metal band from Finland as well.
 
So I have a dilemma sort of. The guy i was waiting to text me back did and we texted back and forth for a while. Recently he asked me to go to his brother's birthday party. I really want to go but it will be at foxwoods and I do not have a car. It is a 3-4 hr trip from where I am. I don't have a car but I have a license I just haven't gotten around to buying a car because I live in the city and money so I never given it much thought. I really do not want to bum a ride off of him because I am interested in him and do not want him to think i am dependent. There is a bus that goes to foxwoods but riding for 4 hours with a bunch of old people doesn't sound appealing. I could rent a zip car to go but I really do not have any experience on driving on the highway. I feel a bit of a loser having not bought a car a year ago when I wanted and I hate bumming rides off people especially someone i want to date. A part of me wants to just say i cannot make it and wallow in self pity at home. I'm currently trying to convince myself it might be good if i dont go but i know in the back of my mind it will be fun.
 
On my back missionary style.
It's become the norm now that fucks and blows all at once when I bottom. Yes, I am quite fortunate.
 
Using some sort of cowboy position, he could be sitting on his partner's lap, with the partner sitting upright and blowing him.

I don't know...it seems to me like his partner's dick would have to be really long, or his torso would have to be really short.

On my back missionary style.
It's become the norm now that fucks and blows all at once when I bottom. Yes, I am quite fortunate.

I must be missing something. That still doesn't make sense.
If it's missionary, how is his dick at your *cough* and his head at your dick? Is he a contortionist?
 
I don't know...it seems to me like his partner's dick would have to be really long, or his torso would have to be really short.



I must be missing something. That still doesn't make sense.
If it's missionary, how is his dick at your *cough* and his head at your dick? Is he a contortionist?

Ha ha, I don't get this either.

My friend got me to like Burzum a little, though I'm not very into metal.

Burzum has some interesting music but he is seriously fucked up! 3 church burnings and stabbing Euronymous 23 times and he is already out of prison.
 
Using some sort of cowboy position, he could be sitting on his partner's lap, with the partner sitting upright and blowing him.

I've been on the giving end of this, and I won't lie, it's kind of my favorite thing.
It's not too hard to do if the receiving end is on the couch and you're on your knees.
 
Wait... you actually contacted your physics prof?

You are aware that Gaf often gives terrible advice right?

Aw jeez, I said hi as in "hi nice to meet you, *YOU ARE HOT* you are way better than the previous physics prof *I WANT YOU FOR MYSELF*"

I don't think he got my hints, now i'm having doubts, he hasn't been on for weeks, iirc.

This is kinda weird to talk about...i'll let you know if anything happens, lol
 
I have no problem with people who love musicals though. One thing I really can't stand is indie rock. A lot of gay people seem to be into that too. That music makes me cringe.

I love musicals and listen to a lot of the indie rock you mentioned. Nice to meet you too :p

I can't explain why I and so many other gay men like musicals. My hunch is that everyone naturally loves musicals, but most straight guys are just too insecure to admit it. Most of my straight male friends that are secure with their sexuality also like musicals.

Like lunch said, it's movies and music combined. What's not to like?

I really want to go but it will be at foxwoods and I do not have a car. It is a 3-4 hr trip from where I am. I don't have a car but I have a license I just haven't gotten around to buying a car because I live in the city and money so I never given it much thought. I really do not want to bum a ride off of him because I am interested in him and do not want him to think i am dependent. There is a bus that goes to foxwoods but riding for 4 hours with a bunch of old people doesn't sound appealing.

The bus ride doesn't sound that bad. Just bring a book or game and something to listen to and you'll be fine. If you're comfortable driving in the city you should also be fine to drive on the highway. Boston is usually pretty awful to drive in, the highway is comparatively relaxed. If you want to take a 'test drive' so-to-speak, just try driving during off-hours when there is less traffic (really early morning would be good for example).

You'll almost certainly regret not going more than you'll regret going, regardless of which way you choose to get there.
 
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