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[jaxword]

No, that wasn't it. I heard something about the creator being a denier of WWII war crimes.

Oh, that. That's slightly off; I'll explain:

Koichi Sugiyama composes the music for Dragon Quest. He's not the creator of DQ. That's Yuji Horii, who has never had anything like that said about him, probably because he's smart enough not to let his politics (whatever they are) intrude upon the business.

Koichi Sugiyama is a Japanese nationalist. This means that his philosophy is to deny any wrongdoing by the Japanese during WW2, and he's public about it.

So that's a bit of a dilemma: DQ has an apparently decent guy at the head, but a major part of it is done by a horrible person. Does Horii's decentness counter the musician's horribleness?

In any case, it's not quite the same as this Chick situation since the leader is quite proud of their bigotry.

 

[BannedEpisode]

Well at least they are up front about it I guess.

 

[Hawkian]

Maybe it has to do with your experience with their quality in food and service? Also that maybe because they're not just some public chain that a la a McDonalds?

Well, with regard to the positives the provide, aye to those; It's always been very pleasant, as well as a very consistent experience in different locations across the country (something I can't say for some chains at all), and they a variety of really tasty sauces you can't get anywhere else, yummy lemonade, and unique fries that are a guilty pleasure.

Most important to me they actually provide decent options for someone attempting to eat relatively well on a regular basis. Their Chargrilled Chicken Sandwich has 290 calories and 4g of fat (and it's freaking delicious), numbers that are basically unheard of in fast food (the best Chicken Sandwich option on McD's menu is 350 cals and 9g of fat).

But really there's more too it than liking them a lot. For example, if Nintendo, as previously mentioned, were to come out with clearly anti-gay contributions and stances, I would have no problem boycotting them even though I love their games and have given them way more of my money over the years than I have to Chik-Fil-A. And an even more extreme example would be Google. If they were overtly anti-gay, I'd have to restructure my entire life in no uncertain terms to completely avoid their products; I'd also do so willingly and without hesitation. That would be way, way more of an inconvenience to me than giving up Chik-Fil-A...

Brain why you so confusing

 

[mavs]

Oh, that. That's slightly off; I'll explain:

Koichi Sugiyama composes the music for Dragon Quest. He's not the creator of DQ. That's Yuji Horii, who has never had anything like that said about him, probably because he's smart enough not to let his politics (whatever they are) intrude upon the business.

Koichi Sugiyama is a Japanese nationalist. This means that his philosophy is to deny any wrongdoing by the Japanese during WW2, and he's public about it.

So that's a bit of a dilemma: DQ has an apparently decent guy at the head, but a major part of it is done by a horrible person. Does Horii's decentness counter the musician's horribleness?

In any case, it's not quite the same as this Chick situation since the leader is quite proud of their bigotry.

Well, it was good enough for me with Shadow Complex, I figured that was several times more so. Literature does remain the better comparison.

 

[Devolution]

Consider me someone who will never give them my money. People who do, consider that every time you eat their food you're putting your money towards bigotry. Stop making excuses for yourselves.

 

[nateeasy]

I dont care if some dude who makes music for Japanese video games denies WWII crimes.

 

[Eight Diagram Bat Fighter]

Consider me someone who will never give them my money. People who do, consider that every time you eat their food you're putting your money towards bigotry. Stop making excuses for yourselves.

Your daily money funds wars. Stop making excuses for yourself.

 

[TommyT]

Well, with regard to the positives the provide, aye to those; It's always been very pleasant, as well as a very consistent experience in different locations across the country (something I can't say for some chains at all), and they a variety of really tasty sauces you can't get anywhere else, yummy lemonade, and unique fries that are a guilty pleasure.

Most important to me they actually provide decent options for someone attempting to eat relatively well on a regular basis. Their Chargrilled Chicken Sandwich has 290 calories and 4g of fat (and it's freaking delicious), numbers that are basically unheard of in fast food (the best Chicken Sandwich option on McD's menu is 350 cals and 9g of fat).

But really there's more too it than liking them a lot. For example, if Nintendo, as previously mentioned, were to come out with clearly anti-gay contributions and stances, I would have no problem boycotting them even though I love their games and have given them way more of my money over the years than I have to Chik-Fil-A. And an even more extreme example would be Google. If they were overtly anti-gay, I'd have to restructure my entire life in no uncertain terms to completely avoid their products; I'd also do so willingly and without hesitation. That would be way, way more of an inconvenience to me than giving up Chik-Fil-A...

Brain why you so confusing

:lol yeah that was the best I've got... you and your brain and go work the rest of that stuff out. Too much for me

 

[Devolution]

Your daily money funds wars. Stop making excuses for yourself.

Oh is this the round of shitty analogies?

 

[jaxword]

Well, it was good enough for me with Shadow Complex, I figured that was several times more so. Literature does remain the better comparison.

It's probably best to think of it as a difference when the bigotry comes from the leader of an organization versus a singular member who isn't in charge of policy.

I dont care if some dude who makes music for Japanese video games denies WWII crimes.

Thanks for letting everyone know how much you don't care.

 

[Keru_Shiri]

Your daily money funds wars. Stop making excuses for yourself.

Would that not be more in the realm of voting? As been stated earlier, we can't opt-out of taxes.

 

[Eight Diagram Bat Fighter]

Oh is this the round of shitty analogies?

You won with the first post, I'll try harder to achieve your level next time.

 

[btkadams]

This is a great post and everyone condemning people for continuing to eat at Chikfila should read it.

I don't go often, but I love it as a treat every now and then, I will continue to eat there.

But, that's not even insightful. The difference between this and many other bad organizations is that you are aware of the issue at this moment and you can easily stop supporting them. You are consciously choosing to support this bad company when you have the ability to stop without it affecting your life in any big way. Choosing to not buy clothes or electronics made in poor countries is a lot fucking harder than choosing to not eat a sandwich from a certain restaurant. I'm not saying these other things are equal issues, but you shouldn't just support all bad companies because we all end up supporting some anyways.

 

[Meier]

I don't understand why they don't provide a quote that includes "guilty as charged." Is this an example of the NYDN simply using that saying based off his other answer? Or did the guy from CEO actually respond with that quote? It seems very misleading to use quotes around that phrase.

Either way, Chick-Fil-A is the undisputed king of both the chicken sandwich and the fries game.. so I don't see myself changing my eating habits regardless.

 

[Devolution]

You won with the first post, I'll try harder to achieve your level next time.

Not really. It's a company that gives money to organizations that look to keep gays from retaining rights. You want eat there? Consider yourself part of the problem.

 

[Manos: The Hans of Fate]

Consider me someone who will never give them my money. People who do, consider that every time you eat their food you're putting your money towards bigotry. Stop making excuses for yourselves.

What if we don't care?

 

[nateeasy]

You can opt out of taxes by shopping on Amazon guys. The IRS will never know.

 

[Mr. Enigma]

Your daily money funds wars. Stop making excuses for yourself.

Bad, lazy analogy is bad and lazy.

 

[jaxword]

Your daily money funds wars. Stop making excuses for yourself.

Fallacious argument, and was already made by some troll on the first page. You can't escape taxes or the American government. You DO have methods, however, of affecting those, such as voting or social pressures. They're not much, but they're something. And not eating some fried chicken is not much either, but it's something.

And no, moving to another country is not the same as not eating at a fast food place.

One requires you to give up your employment, social network, and entire life.

One means not walking 20 feet.

 

[tedtropy]

Consider me someone who will never give them my money. People who do, consider that every time you eat their food you're putting your money towards bigotry. Stop making excuses for yourselves.

How about if I just steal food from them? Is there some sort of gray loophole there or am I still a horrible monster?

I just got a $25 gift card for them too...

 

[Devolution]

What if we don't care?

Then you might as well tell gay people to their face you don't think they deserve equal rights since you're fine with funding that concept.

 

[notworksafe]

The only Chick-Fil-A here is on the opposite side of town that I never go to, so I guess I'm helping the gays by being lazy.

 

[Eight Diagram Bat Fighter]

Not really. It's a company that gives money to organizations that look to keep gays from retaining rights. You want eat there? Consider yourself part of the problem.

Never eaten there, but tt's also a company that gives scholarships for kids to go to college. Oh well.

 

[shintoki]

Gluttony shall always win out.

 

[NawidA]

Ah, that makes sense.



I assume that In N Out's position on this subject is very similar to Chik-fil-a

Just because they are religious doesn't mean you should assume bigotry.

 

[Manos: The Hans of Fate]

Then you might as well tell gay people to their face you don't think they deserve equal rights since you're fine with funding that concept.

What happens when they say they don't care and ask why I'm talking about chicken to then randomly out of the blue?

 

[Double D]

Someone should make a gay porno inside a Chick-Fil-A after hours.

 

[Alligatorjandro]

If I was a business owner I would keep politics out of my business.

 

[Devolution]

Never eaten there, but tt's also a company that gives scholarships for kids to go to college. Oh well.

You know there are companies who give money to scholarships and aren't assisting in keeping gays from retaining rights? Crazy concept I know.

 

[Eight Diagram Bat Fighter]

You know there are companies who give money to scholarships and aren't assisting in keeping gays from retaining rights? Crazy concept I know.

Those companies don't make chik fil a sandwiches though. Crazy.

 

[Manos: The Hans of Fate]

You know there are companies who give money to scholarships and aren't assisting in keeping gays from retaining rights? Crazy concept I know.

So less students should get scholarships?

 

[Spehornoob]

You know there are companies who give money to scholarships and aren't assisting in keeping gays from retaining rights? Crazy concept I know.

But do they make delicious, delicious chicken sandwiches touched by the fields of Elysia themselves? I think not.

 

[btkadams]

Those companies don't make chik fil a sandwiches though. Crazy.

so, you just don't care where your money goes.

So less students should get scholarship?

what does not eating at chick-fil-a have to do with their scholarships? it boycotting affects them so much that they have to cut scholarships rather than anti-gay donations, then there is a serious problem with this company.

 

[Spehornoob]

I'm not paying them to support gay rights. I'm paying them to give me chicken. Whatever they do with that profit is their business, as far as I'm concerned.

 

[SuperBonk]

I've stopped eating there and I hope they change their position.

 

[Mr. Enigma]

So less students should get scholarships?

I would hope that if it came down to it, they would limit their donation money towards hatred and bigotry over scholarships.

 

[M-PG71C]

Brutal honesty is a trait rarely shown nowadays, I can at least respect that. I would rather them be straight-up than pull the usual bullshit, pitter-patter, tactics most people/companies use. In other words, I would sooner trust a man of one extreme than a sea of people in the grey.

 

[nhlducks35]

lol at them facebook comments

"Why do supporters of homosexuals show their support with so much "HATE"...with a side order of Intolerance?"

"Thank-you for standing firm in Christ. As long as you do you have a lifelong customer right here. Your food is great "

"Thanks for not buckling like Oreos and putting up an ad with a rainbow colored chicken sandwich. Makes my heart proud. You GAINED this customer and his family, because we never frequented you before now."

"Amen for making a stand! Now hopefully the lines will be smaller to place my order "

"Your reward will be great in heaven for standing up for what is right! God has truly blessed this company and will continue."

 

[Meier]

I would like to try it once to see what the hype was about (and probably not again after that). Honestly, if I had to boycott companies based on morality I might as well be homeless. My damn bank made slave trading money.

It lives up to and surpasses the hype. Flawless every time. Get the diet lemonade -- you'd barely notice it was a calorie free drink.

Try the buffalo sauce and/or the BBQ sauce. Both add a nice touch to the chicken. Get it without any sauces initially though.

 

[Mr. Enigma]

I'm not paying them to support gay rights. I'm paying them to give me chicken. Whatever they do with that profit is their business, as far as I'm concerned.

That's great. Except actually, you are paying them to support anti-gay rights.

 

[Eight Diagram Bat Fighter]

so, you just don't care where your money goes.

what does not eating at chick-fil-a have to do with their scholarships? it boycotting affects them so much that they have to cut scholarships rather than anti-gay donations, then there is a serious problem with this company.

Not that I don't care, it's that I don't know. No one does. Let's stop acting like it's a direct donation by assuming that 100% of your cash goes to funding an anti-gay charity.

 

[Devolution]

I'm not paying them to support gay rights. I'm paying them to give me chicken. Whatever they do with that profit is their business, as far as I'm concerned.

And yet they give to causes that discriminate. This is the kind of rationalization that keeps gays from retaining rights.

"I just buy chicken there, I'm not a bad person, they're a private company."

They're a bigoted company and you're assisting them and anti-gay groups.

So less students should get scholarships?

Oh please. Keep using this to rationalize your purchase towards anti-gay movements and see how far it gets with me.

 

[FlawlessCowboy]

Consider me someone who will never give them my money. People who do, consider that every time you eat their food you're putting your money towards bigotry. Stop making excuses for yourselves.

So much self righteousness. I think I'll swing by chik-fil-a tonight in your honor.

 

[Mr. Enigma]

Not that I don't care, it's that I don't know. No one does. Let's stop acting like it's a direct donation by assuming that 100% of your cash goes to funding an anti-gay charity.

They donated $2 million to Prop 8. Where do you think that money came from? Jesus' private bank?

So much self righteousness. I think I'll swing by chik-fil-a tonight in your honor.

How is that self-righteousness? You give money to a company that donates towards anti-gay movements, then you're indirectly supporting anti-gay movements. It's not rocket science.

 

[Spehornoob]

That's great. Except actually, you are paying them to support anti-gay rights.

Oh. Okay. Thanks for letting me know. I always did wonder why I made them sign a contract every time to only use my profits to get rid of dem gays. That clears that right up.

 

[Devolution]

So much self righteousness. I think I'll swing by chik-fil-a tonight in your honor.

The idea that it's self-righteous to not purchase from a bigoted corporation is the exact problem with this country.

 

[Kapura]

They donated $2 million to Prop 8. Where do you think that money came from? Jesus' private bank?

it's a bitch getting the funds transferred via camel through the eye of a needle.

 

[verbum]

If I was a business owner I would keep politics out of my business.

In this case they use their belief system to attract people who have similar beliefs.

 

[Eight Diagram Bat Fighter]

They donated $2 million to Prop 8. Where do you think that money came from? Jesus' private bank?

out of 4.1 billion dollars. Not every patron's money went into that 2 million.

 

[Finn of Ooo]

Finn of Ooo asked about policy of not supporting chick-fil-a, "guilty as charged".