CFA response to anti-gay alleg. "Guilty as charged." Do NOT gloat about eating at CFA
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Pollux
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The latter.
That's fine, I wouldn't want to do that either. I don't think anyone would suggest that you do that.
But what's to figure out here? The company puts money toward anti-gay organizations, the head of the company outright says that they're anti-gay. If you think it's too much bother to boycott companies just as a general rule, that's your prerogative. Or if you like their chicken a lot, or whatever. No problem. But there's no need to pretend people are saying you should agonizingly go through giant lists of all the companies you buy stuff from on the off chance they might be doing something bad.
This shit is blatant.
Devolution
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Yeah no shit. They basically say "we're fucking bigoted assholes and proud of it." But go ahead keep eating there. I reserve my right to condemn people for doing so, sorry if that's "self-righteous" given how this company handles itself.
They give money to groups that lobby for legislation to keep gays from being able to marry.
Keru_Shiri
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Actually, the more research I do, the more I find this is not to be the case. A lot of companies I patronize, when they do donate, typically do so to disaster relief efforts, scholarships, or places like the Make-A-Wish foundation. Granted, I haven't evaluated 100% of the services I use, but after the dozen or so I've looked at, Cinemark was the only other offender.
Eight Diagram Bat Fighter
Banned
As a Mormon, I guess my support of the religion will cancel out your boycotts. The world moves on.
patrickthehedgehog
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Exactly!
Devolution
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Yes.
PrimaNocta
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I of course don't follow their beliefs, but I'm sorry, their chicken sandwich is Amazing! Chick Fil A & backyard burgers are my go to fast food joints when i want my fatty fix.
Don't judge me!
Don't judge me!
Exactly. There's no research or digging to do here. It's obvious what they support.
It's both. It's always both. Chick Fil A uses a charity they run to give money to Christian based organizations against gay marriage who in turn put pressure on politicians and whatnot to ensure gay marriage isn't legal. There are three overall groups
a. People outraged enough to boycott (Which seems to occasionally mean that everyone should boycott. For us or against us)
b. People in favor enough to champion Chik Fil A (God made Adam & Eve, not Adam & Steve. I heard that at work today...)
c. People who just don't care one way or the other about what a private company legally does with their profits as long as they provide tasty, tasty chicken.
Well that's definitely fucked up then.
Metal Gear?!
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You should probably know how much of a straight up KKK Hate Group the Family Research Council is:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11MZBd_IlM8
http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=6754377n&tag=contentMain;contentBody
Gaining access to children has been a long-term goal of the homosexual movement.
Robert Knight, FRC director of cultural studies, and Frank York, 1999
[Homosexuality] embodies a deep-seated hatred against true religion.
Steven Schwalm, FRC senior writer and analyst, in Desecrating Corpus Christi, 1999
One of the primary goals of the homosexual rights movement is to abolish all age of consent laws and to eventually recognize pedophiles as the prophets' of a new sexual order.
-1999 FRC pamphlet, Homosexual Activists Work to Normalize Sex with Boys.
[T]he evidence indicates that disproportionate numbers of gay men seek adolescent males or boys as sexual partners.
Timothy Dailey, senior research fellow, Homosexuality and Child Sexual Abuse, 2002
While activists like to claim that pedophilia is a completely distinct orientation from homosexuality, evidence shows a disproportionate overlap between the two. It is a homosexual problem.
FRC President Tony Perkins, FRC website, 2010
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Other anti-gay propagandists at the FRC include Peter Sprigg, senior fellow for policy studies, who joined the organization in 2001. Sprigg authored a 2010 brochure touting The Top Ten Myths about Homosexuality. In the brochure, Sprigg claimed that ex-gay therapy works, that sexual orientation can change, that gay people are mentally ill simply because homosexuality makes them that way, and that, Sexual abuse of boys by adult men is many times more common than consensual sex between adult men, and most of those engaging in such molestation identify themselves as homosexual or bisexual.
...
The group has also waded into the debate over anti-bullying policies, which became a matter of national debate after several gay students committed suicide in late 2010. On Oct. 11, 2010, Perkins managed to get the Washington Post to run his op-ed, in which he reiterated his point that anti-bullying policies are not really intended by their supporters to protect students. Homosexual activist groups like GLSEN [Gay, Lesbian and Straight Education Network] are exploiting these tragedies to push their agenda of demanding not only tolerance of homosexual individuals, but active affirmation of homosexual conduct and their efforts to redefine the family.
http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/intelligence-files/groups/family-research-council
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11MZBd_IlM8
http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=6754377n&tag=contentMain;contentBody
Gaining access to children has been a long-term goal of the homosexual movement.
Robert Knight, FRC director of cultural studies, and Frank York, 1999
[Homosexuality] embodies a deep-seated hatred against true religion.
Steven Schwalm, FRC senior writer and analyst, in Desecrating Corpus Christi, 1999
One of the primary goals of the homosexual rights movement is to abolish all age of consent laws and to eventually recognize pedophiles as the prophets' of a new sexual order.
-1999 FRC pamphlet, Homosexual Activists Work to Normalize Sex with Boys.
[T]he evidence indicates that disproportionate numbers of gay men seek adolescent males or boys as sexual partners.
Timothy Dailey, senior research fellow, Homosexuality and Child Sexual Abuse, 2002
While activists like to claim that pedophilia is a completely distinct orientation from homosexuality, evidence shows a disproportionate overlap between the two. It is a homosexual problem.
FRC President Tony Perkins, FRC website, 2010
...
Other anti-gay propagandists at the FRC include Peter Sprigg, senior fellow for policy studies, who joined the organization in 2001. Sprigg authored a 2010 brochure touting The Top Ten Myths about Homosexuality. In the brochure, Sprigg claimed that ex-gay therapy works, that sexual orientation can change, that gay people are mentally ill simply because homosexuality makes them that way, and that, Sexual abuse of boys by adult men is many times more common than consensual sex between adult men, and most of those engaging in such molestation identify themselves as homosexual or bisexual.
...
The group has also waded into the debate over anti-bullying policies, which became a matter of national debate after several gay students committed suicide in late 2010. On Oct. 11, 2010, Perkins managed to get the Washington Post to run his op-ed, in which he reiterated his point that anti-bullying policies are not really intended by their supporters to protect students. Homosexual activist groups like GLSEN [Gay, Lesbian and Straight Education Network] are exploiting these tragedies to push their agenda of demanding not only tolerance of homosexual individuals, but active affirmation of homosexual conduct and their efforts to redefine the family.
http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/intelligence-files/groups/family-research-council
It's more like if you don't consider yourself and anti-gay supporter why do you give money to anti-gay hate groups? Not just people who hold anti-gay personal opinions, but straight up hate groups.Can't we just eat a chicken sandwich without the fear of being labeled an anti gay supporter? I was going to walk across the street and get a chicken sandwich today too.
Spehornoob
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So a company can support something you're opposed to, as long as they hide it? Because it takes too much effort to do the research?
How is that any morally "better" than simply not participating in the boycott?
Don't worry, I'm sure the heads of this company and other folks of their ilk will judge gay couples way more than you'll get judged for eating their sandwiches.Don't judge me!
Count Dookkake
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We are not responsible for the secrets of others.
This is not a secret.
Your attempt to equate the two is laughable and transparent.
Eight Diagram Bat Fighter
Banned
Can't we just eat a chicken sandwich without the fear of being labeled an anti gay supporter? I was going to walk across the street and get a chicken sandwich today too.
That's not a chicken sandwich you're hungry for, You hunger for a hate sandwich. Eat up fatty. U disgust me.
Alligatorjandro
Banned
Dont eat there then.
Its simple.
Its simple.
Count Dookkake
Member
Wow, looks like we have another scholar here.
Keru_Shiri
Member
It doesn't make it better, but I would argue that in the age of the internet, it takes a LOT more effort to hide these types of things. That CFA has become so open about it seems to suggest an even greater disdain.
Alligatorjandro
Banned
I try.
My point wasn't about how hard it is to find out who to boycott, it was about choosing to boycott everyone who holds some controversial view. If I did that I probably wouldn't be able to use most products in this country.
Maybe we could have hate offsets, like with carbon. Like, for every tasty chicken sandwich, I donate a small amount to gay rights groups.
Again, I don't think anyone is suggesting that you boycott "everyone who holds some controversial view."
Devolution
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Your money -> Chick Fil-A -> Hate groups -> Anti-gay legislation
Guess what you can do to break the chain. Not supply money.
Guess what you can do to break the chain. Not supply money.
BrLvgThrChmstry
Banned
Can I be frank with you GAF?
ReBurn
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If you want to rage some then Facebook is the place for you:
https://www.facebook.com/mediaresearchcenter
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Boycott-Chick-fil-A/139397049531586
Make your faces seen!
https://www.facebook.com/mediaresearchcenter
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Boycott-Chick-fil-A/139397049531586
Make your faces seen!
DimmuBurgerKing
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And da Loard did grin;
And da peeple did feest upon da fowl;
Being held between two halves of levvind bredd;
And also upon sunflower-seed bagelz wif eggz and cheez;
For Holy iz da post-mortem reyoonyun of muther and egg;
Amen.
- Cows 3:11
And da peeple did feest upon da fowl;
Being held between two halves of levvind bredd;
And also upon sunflower-seed bagelz wif eggz and cheez;
For Holy iz da post-mortem reyoonyun of muther and egg;
Amen.
- Cows 3:11
We kill the bat man.
Alligatorjandro
Banned
BrLvgThrChmstry
Banned
Yeah, I kind of figured as much.
Definitely count me in if that was the case as I don't eat at either place (willingly)
Horse Detective
Why the long case?
I wish this was McDonalds or Burger King. I would have no problem boycotting it.
You can be frank, alice, leroy jackson, whoever you want to be.
CornBurrito
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I wish some of the "don't care, will still eat it" people would post why they don't care at all.
Also lol @ the people (particularly the dude with the spongebob avatar) raving about chic-fil-a. I've had it before. It doesn't taste that good. Then again, I don't eat fast food that often. So maybe it is a dwarf among midgets.
Also lol @ the people (particularly the dude with the spongebob avatar) raving about chic-fil-a. I've had it before. It doesn't taste that good. Then again, I don't eat fast food that often. So maybe it is a dwarf among midgets.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
Pollux
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So I'm guessing that every single place you spend money lines up perfectly with your political ideology?
Sure thing...I eat there once a year when I go through an airport at 5 am and it's the only place open. Otherwise, I go to KFC. With that being said, if the next time I go through the airport at 5 am and there's something else open I will happily go there instead.
No, I'm saying that because there's no research to be done by any of us, the choice to not support them should be really simple. I have no problem with doing research on a company, but I'm sure other people don't care that much.
Depends.
Alligatorjandro
Banned
And the animal person race war continues
There is no war.
Other animal people cant see me.
But then the supply of tasty chicken would dry up.
Breaking the chain can only happen by passing gay marriage legislation. Gay legislation won't fail on the basis of a million dollar donation from Chik Fil A.
Don't forget the anti-gay groups are also an anti-women group for being against abortion.
Count Dookkake
Member
That's not entirely possible.
However, these scumbags are announcing their old-fashioned and superstitious beliefs for the world.
You'd have to ignore the message of hate to avoid it. This is not some secret.
It's easier to say that you don't care then to say "yes, I care, but I care more about the tastiness of my food than about human rights."
DimmuBurgerKing
Member
Yeah. Chick-fil-a is like, the only fast food I ever eat. On the other hand, I only rarely eat there - maybe once or twice a month - so I wouldn't miss out on much by boycotting.
Count Dookkake
Member
Also easier to say than "I really hate fags, but I like posting on GAF."
Professor Beef
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Pollux
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Fair enough. But would it be fair to change my statement to, "Do you boycott every place that openly disagrees with your political ideology?" Because if the answer is "Yes", then keep on keepin on fighting Chick-Fil-A. But if "No", then why just Chick-Fil-A and not other places?
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