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Just got out of the movie and honestly I have mixed feelings about the movie. As a standalone movie I felt it was very good and Nolan definitely captured those tense, panic driven moments at the very end. However, I feel that the cinematography was weak, the plot was predictable, and overall it doesn't transcend The Dark Knight. Also I feel Talia being the main baddie was shoehorned in as a nod to her father and while it surprised me to see her, she didn't have that same oomph as a villain that Hardy did as Bane. After seeing TDKR, I'd have to put them in this order: TDK>TDKR>BB.
 
Funny how people think that because we are calling out flaws means we hated the movie.

For me, that couldn't be further from the truth.

I liked the film a lot.
 
Remember, the biggest fans of something are also its biggest critics.

Yeah, I could nitpick this trilogy all day long. But only because I love it so much.
 
BurnOutBrighter said:
So when authorities find the body, they'll think it's the doctor who died in the crash.

Ridiculous, yes. You'd have to replace his entire body of blood, not to mention his jaw for dental records.
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Oh ok, I kept thinking it was part of something bigger and nothing ever came of it lol.
 
Movie was awesome. I'm stating this before reading what I imagine are a lot of people criticizing the movie.

I kinda rolled my eyes at the 'Robin' thing. So, did your theater applaud when Alfred saw Bruce while vacationing abroad? Mine did. They also applauded at the end.

Overall, a great ending to a great trilogy.
 
Just got back. Felt it was more enjoyable than TDK overall but TDK is technically the better film. Loved Catwoman, Bane was meh. Didn't like the way he was killed either.
Interesting parallel IMO to the Star Wars Trilogy. New Hope = BB, TDK = Empire, TDKR = Return Jedi
 
Loved it overall, but damn if the entire affair wouldn't have been better if Talia was just ripped out of the film. Her arrival perfectly coincided with the total neutering of Bane. Terrible.

That soundtrack! God damn. Amazing. Except for Catwoman's brutally annoying theme that had no place in the soundscape of these films.
 
Favorite part: when Batman chased a bunch of bad guys on motorcycles entering a tunnel during the day and exited the tunnel 2 minutes later at night.

But seriously, I LOVED it. And the Man of Steel trailer was flawless. Any word on when that's hitting the internet, at least officially?
 
Sojgat said:
An exchange of opinions and ideas, not being told in multiple different ways that I'm "spoiling the fun", or that I act like my word is "gospel' like a priest preaching in front of a strip club. Why did you like the movie? What about it? What speaks to you? If I'm wrong explain to me why you think so, don't just tell me that I'm wrong in as many different ways as you can think of without backing it up.

For example I would except the idea that sombody maybe really liked the John Blake character. Joseph Gordon-Levitt was really good and the idea that you take all these aspects and background details from multiple existing characters and combie them into one person might be something that could be argued as being a really cool idea.



Which is something that just had to be said out loud in case the audience couldn't understand Symbolism. I was actually enjoying that part until Nolan had to go and make it so obvious.
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In many ways, I prefer the Batman from the comic book universe. In Nolan's universe he's fallible, and watching him degress in TDKR made me go 'THIS ISN'T BATMAN! BATMAN DOESN'T MAKE MISTAKES! HE CAN BEAT OUT AGE WITH MERE WILLPOWER AND SHIT.' for a bit.

Started to love the movie more once I just accepted that this movie is much like The Dark Knight Returns. As mentioned, in a universe of its own.

As for the flaws you mentioned? We had microwave bombs that can vaporise water except in humans, and finding fingerprints off shrapnels of a bullet. Nolan suck at this. He does however, does characterization really well, and for me that what matters most in these kinds of movies. I felt and could relate to this version of Batman, so that's enough.

The John Blake thing was a surprise. Part of me wished Nolan named him Dick Grayson instead of Robin John Blake, but it fits in with what Batman is in this universe; A symbol, a legend. So who is behind the mask isn't important. The Robin name is just an easter egg.
 
Magnus said:
Loved it overall, but damn if the entire affair wouldn't have been better if Talia was just ripped out of the film. Her arrival perfectly coincided with the total neutering of Bane. Terrible.

That soundtrack! God damn. Amazing. Except for Catwoman's brutally annoying theme that had no place in the soundscape of these films.
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That was perfect i sctually felt bad for bane at the moment they shiwed him without the mask
 
I actually thought Blake would become Nightwing, due to his renegade attitude. But everyone knows about Robin and it's a much more accessible card to play.
 
Really liked it despite a lot of really heavy handed "foreshadowing". I had a great time and I thought it was a satisfying conclusion.
 
Movie was good but kind of messy. The first hour or so just seemed to plod along, but once Bane broke Bats it got a lot better.
Bale was much improved over Dark Knight at least.

But I have two major issues: Wayne giving up being Batman just because Rachel died. BULLSHIT. If anything that would reignite the fire to go out and kick more criminal ass.
Also, Alfred leaving Bruce: NEVAH!

Audience was pretty tame at my showing. Packed house, but very low energy through the whole thing. Definitely not as rowdy and into it as they were for Dark Knight or Avengers.

Think the weekend grosses will be nuts, but the legs will be nothing like Dark Knight had. I know I wont be going back for a while. The more I think about it, the less I like it.

Batman Begins>Dark Knight>Dark Knight Rises
 
I liked it. It was good had some issues. Really didn't like how Bane went out was hoping for a little Batman and Bane team up some how. JGL was boss had a feeling he was gonna turn out to be Robin. Wish they would of used a actual Robin name and wish he put on a suit at the end to make it badass.
 
Mixed feelings on the movie. The first half has a lot of editing problems. It definitely needed more transition scenes to make it flow better. There are some leaps of logic but nothing that really made me say "WTF" in the theater like Prometheus. Second half was flat out amazing.
 
PhoncipleBone said:
Movie was good but kind of messy. The first hour or so just seemed to plod along, but once Bane broke Bats it got a lot better.
Bale was much improved over Dark Knight at least.

But I have two major issues: Wayne giving up being Batman just because Rachel died. BULLSHIT.
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Well, also he had to become a pariah in order to protect the good reputation of Dent.

Also. Gotham sure looked like Pittsburgh, lol.
 
Jarmel said:
Mixed feelings on the movie. The first half has a lot of editing problems. It definitely needed more transition scenes to make it flow better. There are some leaps of logic but nothing that really made me say "WTF" in the theater like Prometheus. Second half was flat out amazing.
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How I felt. Once Bruce is broken and Bane takes over Gotham, it got fantastic. Sadly, it took forever to get to that point.

A satisfying conclusion to it all though. Just not the amazing close that I wanted.


vas_a_morir said:
Well, also he had to become a pariah in order to protect the good reputation of Dent.

Also. Gotham sure looked like Pittsburgh, lol.
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I know he had to be a pariah. But he told Alfred he hung it up because of Rachel. Pussywhipped Batman is lame.
 
~Kinggi~ said:
Either way some studio fucker better not think of rebooting batman. No reason to after this. Robin spinoff.....maybe.
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I don't know. I still think there's a place for a Batman movie that isn't so grounded in reality... darker tones but with room for the paranormal, not stylistic but constrained.
 
PhoncipleBone said:
Movie was good but kind of messy. The first hour or so just seemed to plod along, but once Bane broke Bats it got a lot better.
Bale was much improved over Dark Knight at least.

But I have two major issues: Wayne giving up being Batman just because Rachel died. BULLSHIT. If anything that would reignite the fire to go out and kick more criminal ass.
Also, Alfred leaving Bruce: NEVAH!

Audience was pretty tame at my showing. Packed house, but very low energy through the whole thing. Definitely not as rowdy and into it as they were for Dark Knight or Avengers.

Think the weekend grosses will be nuts, but the legs will be nothing like Dark Knight had. I know I wont be going back for a while. The more I think about it, the less I like it.

Batman Begins>Dark Knight>Dark Knight Rises
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My man.
 
I wouldn't be surprised if the full uncut version of this is over three hours. I want a Director's Cut for BD with all scenes added in.
 
By the end I liked Blake's story better than Bruce. Loved the movie. Thought Anne was a great Catwoman, althought I've never been to interested in the character.

My theater was so quiet during the screening. Actually boo'd at the Superman trailer. No got the reference to Talia or Robin.
 
PhoncipleBone said:
Movie was good but kind of messy. The first hour or so just seemed to plod along, but once Bane broke Bats it got a lot better.
Bale was much improved over Dark Knight at least.

But I have two major issues: Wayne giving up being Batman just because Rachel died. BULLSHIT. If anything that would reignite the fire to go out and kick more criminal ass.
Also, Alfred leaving Bruce: NEVAH!

Audience was pretty tame at my showing. Packed house, but very low energy through the whole thing. Definitely not as rowdy and into it as they were for Dark Knight or Avengers.

Think the weekend grosses will be nuts, but the legs will be nothing like Dark Knight had. I know I wont be going back for a while. The more I think about it, the less I like it.

Batman Begins>Dark Knight>Dark Knight Rises
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Did you see the same movie ? He left because rachel told him in bb that she wanted the man who was not faking it like she felt he was, basically deadbeat bruce is what bruce would have always been if not for LOS

alfred couldnt see him become batman and bruce couldnt not save gotham
 
My prediction for the film: most are on the major high of seeing it and totally in love. But over the next few months, the euphoria will subside and all the flaws will start to show, and it will just go to being a good movie. Not a great movie.
 
lazybones18 said:
And another thing: Just what was the point of Juno Temple's character? AKA Why the fuck is this nobody in this movie?
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Yeah, that. The only thing I can think of is: to show Selina is a good person?


PhoncipleBone said:
But I have two major issues: Wayne giving up being Batman just because Rachel died. BULLSHIT. If anything that would reignite the fire to go out and kick more criminal ass.
Also, Alfred leaving Bruce:
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No, he gave up on Batman because he completed his mission.

He gave up on life because Rachel died.

Although there was that period where I think he worked on the clean energy project for a few years before he shelved it? I'm a little confused there.

So... having succeeded at wiping out crime, he channelled his focus on clean energy for
Gotham, before having no choice but to give it up, after which he just lost his will to live? That's when he allowed himself to get depressed over Rachel I guess.
 
For a movie that's so inspired by my favorite book of all time that sure wasn't doing it for me. I still liked it of course but it's hands down the worst of the trilogy. Catwoman was surprisingly great though. Wish there had been more Bane

Didn't get to see the Superman trailer either
 
PhoncipleBone said:
My prediction for the film: most are on the major high of seeing it and totally in love. But over the next few months, the euphoria will subside and all the flaws will start to show, and it will just go to being a good movie. Not a great movie.
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Actually it seems like everyone is living off the high/nostalgia of the prior movies and immediately putting this one down.
 
PhoncipleBone said:
My prediction for the film: most are on the major high of seeing it and totally in love. But over the next few months, the euphoria will subside and all the flaws will start to show, and it will just go to being a good movie. Not a great movie.
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This is most likely what will happen. Falling in place as the worst of the bunch but a great way to go out. Sort of like Back to The Future.
 
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