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I'm actually surprised at how much I liked all the pit scenes. Well, except the "Bruce fails to get out -> cue 2 minute training montage + advice from random old man -> Bruce gets out" part.
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I'm actually surprised at how much I liked all the pit scenes. Well, except the "Bruce fails to get out -> cue 2 minute training montage + advice from random old man -> Bruce gets out" part.
I loved how the set, framing, and lighting of that scene was almost identical to Rhas' first scene in Begins. Including the pimp suit, which he wore in that too.
Seriously, fanservice all over this bitch. Rhas, Harvey Dent, Scarecrow. OVERT shit. Normally I have a distaste for it, but it all worked wonderfully for me.
Bruce did find Ra's, in his prison cell yes. Strange coincidence that Ra's had been hanging out there at the time.
Oh man, THIS. Thats the ONE thing that should have been ambiguous.
Hero_of_the_Day
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As much as I've bitched about the movie being so obvious about everything, this part did completely catch me off guard and wow me. I have insisted there was no way Bane would really break his back since he was announced as the villain. When he lifted Batman up like a fucking toy and slammed him down, my mind was pretty fucking blown.
Didn't Talia have money too though?
Reagan's BR
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He should have backed into the shadows and Bruce should have passed out.
Razgriz-Specter
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im sure after spending 7 years doing that he probably knew what to do.
Those ones for me too. I also got a real pleasure out of seeing Batman feeding the "permission to die" line back to Bane.
Didn't she say she never forgave him for expelling Bane, until he was killed in Gotham thanks to Batman? I assume she was MIA for some time only to return after he was killed, along with Bane.
vicissitudes
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It's just bizarre to me how he laments "I wasn't always here in the mountains. Once I had a wife...my great love." and then he IGNORES HIS DAUGHTER FOR THE ENTIRE MOVIE.
Sorcerer
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I kind of belive that Selina did not know Bruce was Batman. The expression on her face when Bane announces it leads me to belive this.
Also when Batman tells Selina she just made a mistake was kind or chilling because you know whats coming.
Yep. It sullied an otherwise note-perfect scene. Who thought it was a good idea to have Rhas fade away like a television special effects quality ghost?
Zen_Arcade
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I'm not saying it has to be. What I'm saying is that instead of having a random guy who happens to be Robin at the end of the movie be your heir to the throne how about you make him a character that has more contact with Batman. There was maybe a half dozen times where they were together.
Batman as a character has never been someone who just automatically trusts someone. Hell, he told people dressing up like Batman in The Dark Knight to cut it out. So those guys arent qualified but since that cop is also an orphan hes next in line to protect a whole city?
They don't flesh out Robin at all outside from him being an orphan. Its just a bad introduction to a character who is supposed to be very important to the mythos and he just felt tacked on.
FlashbladeGAF
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totally hoped they'd go there and before the runtime was announced I didn't think they would have enough time to do any type of Knightfall story
You dont bring Bane in and not have him break Batman's back. Its the only thing TAS is missing and I'm glad TDKR included it
Auron_Kale
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I liked as well, but the constant montages is what was dragging a bit of that act for me. I got it the first time, but it was effective when Bruce got out eventually.
Megabus.
I was really hoping that exile was going to lead to the army people having to shoot the people once they make it to the other side, but I guess they never wanted to have to show the US army shooting US citizens.
This was probably done to prevent a million blog posts claiming that Ra's escaped before the train crashed in Batman Begins.
He even said the line and everything, though a few moments before. I never expected Nolan to actually do the Knightfall scene, I thought there might be maybe a nod to it, but no more.
And it was awesome. That might be the best scene in the film, Batman/Bane I (though I did like Batman/Bane II for how insane both of them came off in it)
Maybe Bane forgot to seal the NJ Transit Northeast Corridor line.
FlashbladeGAF
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Razgriz-Specter
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Batman's intro
Bruce prep and climb
Entire ending
Ra's backstory
I absolutely loved, favorite parts.
Bruce prep and climb
Entire ending
Ra's backstory
I absolutely loved, favorite parts.
Hero_of_the_Day
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There was really no need for an explanation. Would you have felt better to see him hop on a plane? Maybe a shot of him looking at Gotham from the outside would have been nice, but I didn't feel like I was lost without seeing how he got back.
VistraNorrez
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Everyone talks about the backbreaking but the close up of Bane punching the hell out of Batman's head was far more disturbing.
Well Ra's because Gotham had become like Constantinople and Rome, Joker because Batman was a challenge, Bane and Talia to finish the job.
vicissitudes
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I hated it; way too many flashbacks. They already made the pit resemble the well he fell down as a kid, but then he had to bludgeon the audience by actually inserting that scene from Begins. I wish he were more subtle about all the callbacks but I guess I can understand how more casual audiences would appreciate it.
XANDER CAGE
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From what I remember that scene was shot right on the outskirts of Gotham, overlooking the bay. There's another scene right after that where Batman walks on the ice, when he reveals himself to Gordon and co. Putting two and two together, I just sort of assume Bruce's ninja skills helped him get across the ice just fine.
Would've been nice to have a clearer explanation though, for sure.
He's in Dexter, actor's name is Desmond Harrington, he plays the soldier on the bridge yelling at Blake not to cross.
Sorcerer
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I wanted to see book the tickets for the plane, and sip champane in first class. J/K
All you need to know is that its Batman. Getting from here to there is childs play for the dude.
Well, didn't they say the child was born in that prison? I just assumed maybe he didn't know she was pregnant when they took her.
I also felt surprisingly sorry for Bane when he was lying in front of Batman, paralysed with pain. I never once felt slightly sorry for the other villains like Scarecrow/Joker, nor was I supposed to, so I was expecting Bane to be without any redeeming features.
Considering the other 99% of the film, he is an absolutely gigantic dick, I didn't anticipate anything other than satisfaction for him being defeated.
Those Hardy eyes, I guess. They're quite expressive.
Considering the other 99% of the film, he is an absolutely gigantic dick, I didn't anticipate anything other than satisfaction for him being defeated.
Those Hardy eyes, I guess. They're quite expressive.
billy beane
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I agree. It's weird because people like to point at this trilogy as not really being comic book movies, but all the references in this film make it one comic-book-ass comic book movie.
should have brought some bane-repellant bat spray
Ahh thanks. I thought the initial scene was in Gotham.
BigGreenMat
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Hell Crane was already the LoS lackey in the first movie. So of course he would continue to be in this one.
vicissitudes
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Agreed, I loved that part. The actual back-breaking was so comic-booky and pandering, I couldn't believe it was actually in the movie.
She finds Ra's after she gets out.
FlashbladeGAF
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i liked the line more than anything... would have been just as effective with audio only
Yeah, that shot and the one in their second fight where Bane goes completely berserk and just pounds the crap of Batman's torso up against the pillar. Those were brutal.
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
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Yep. The way he worked those eyes off is fucking magic. I did feel sorry for him as he felt like a puppet by the end when Talia stabbed Bruce.
Like I said in my review, there were a LOT of plot holes and time/space/logistics holes (one real bad one had JGL's character just happening upon the storm drain Gordon was shot out of), but one that really stuck out to me: how does Bane know who Batman is?
Lucious and Alfred have known since day one.
Blake knows, but its explained how.
Miranda/Talia finds out through the plot.
Gordon finds out when Batman tells him.
But how does Bane know? Don't say Miranda, because she didn't know until after Bane said it. And don't say because of Rhas, because Rhas died before he could have told Miranda or Bane.
Lucious and Alfred have known since day one.
Blake knows, but its explained how.
Miranda/Talia finds out through the plot.
Gordon finds out when Batman tells him.
But how does Bane know? Don't say Miranda, because she didn't know until after Bane said it. And don't say because of Rhas, because Rhas died before he could have told Miranda or Bane.
JustProgress
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Man, reliving the scenes makes me really want to see it again. I thought it was good, not great when I left last night but the more I think about it and listen to the discussion I remember how awesome some of the scenes were.
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