I don't even know what you're referring to, but what else could it be? Moving to 3DS? :lol
Kotaku Rumor: Final Fantasy Versus XIII dead?
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I don't even know what you're referring to, but what else could it be? Moving to 3DS? :lol
Seraphinianus
Banned
this would not surprise me.
"oh shit, our MMO is failing"
"It's okay, Final Fantasy 15 will save us!"
"WHAT?!!! WE'RE MAKING A 15TH ONE? WHY DIDN'T ANYONE TELL ME?!!!! I HAVEN'T EVEN STARTED IT YET....i didn't even think we'd be making another since there are so many."
"What's that one demo we have running that we've been using to deflect the press for the past few years?"
"Oh, Versus? I think? Versus XIII? Supposed to be part of that Fabulous Nova Crystal shit or whatever the fuck we called it to make it sound deep."
"Right, that thing. Also, we canceled the Fable Nouveau Christmas or whatever the fuck we called to make it sound deep, so don't mention that to the press anymore."
"This is getting complicated...."
"VERSUS = XV. GOT IT?"
"Oh haha, yeah. i think....oh snap, my sock zipper is busted again."
PowderedToast
Junior Member
a real shame if true, the setting is unique and i enjoy the FNC lore. but if the cancellation means they now move onto something more productive then that's probably for the best.
Father_Brain
Banned
It was rumored (or at least speculated - I'm not sure if there was ever a real source per se for it) long before that obviously fake pre-E3 video.
Well it's all about the individual in the end. For me the trailers atmosphere alone beats FF13 lol. Meaning I enjoyed the atmosphere so much (music, desgin etc) that I would enjoy the game even if the gameplay is crap( which I highly doubt)
So not only that, but we have been told that there will be controlable cars, airships, proper HD towns (who doesn't want to try a Final Fantasy in a realistic modern day style city? for a change?) etc etc
I also read that they only went into full production at the end of last year! So expect some fresh news pretty soon my friend.
Now I understand your not that interested, but I am and many others are. And I don't get why a lot of people enjoy wanting the game to fail (not saying you, many other comments) that's just weird.
Anyway I'm 90% sure that I will love the game, and I'm willing to make a 1 MILLION virtual dollar bet that the game will be amazing haha.
OK I think I've had enough versus talk until TGS I think.
Alex
Member
Seems unlikely to me. Not to give Square too much benefit of the doubt, big of screw ups as they are but just after entering full dev canning it and then getting no one to ever speak of it again sounds unlikely.
My guess is going to be re branding and misinterpretation, the XIII brand isnt exactly a glorious association. They seem to want to get back on the path proper but even I will be kinda shocked if this is outright axed.
My guess is going to be re branding and misinterpretation, the XIII brand isnt exactly a glorious association. They seem to want to get back on the path proper but even I will be kinda shocked if this is outright axed.
Seraphinianus
Banned
Wow the gameplay parts actually looked decent. Now I'm feeling a little worse that we won't at least see what this game can do, if this is true that is.
I think XIII and XIII-2 are weak, but I don't think SE as a whole are crap. Haven't you enjoyed anything from them this generation? TWEWY?
I believe SE can still make great games, if Versus would be amongst them, I have no idea.
Yeah in the end it's all we can do wait and see, I just hope that I'm not wrong lol.
I'm just happy that there are plenty of other games to play until it comes out (if it does)
I could wait 5 more years and it wouldn't bother me that much, just the way I am.
P.S I always wanted to play the game in your avatar, any news on that PS3 remake release?
It's hard to watch this video for the 32nd time not knowing if I will ever play it.
Maybe
Will both will become FFXV
what's funny about that comparison is that the real time tech demo has better looking facial hair than the CG lolz. If this thing ever comes out I wonder if anything of what they have shown would actually be in the game.
Everything from the '06 trailer for XIII ended up in the game in one way or another, I'm sure it'll be the same with Versus.
Yoshichan
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
Best part in the trailer... so fucking good, love the design of the old man (Versus XIII).Maybe
Will both will become FFXV
If the name were changed, it'd just be a name change. Any connections to the Fabula Nova Crystallis mythos would remain intact, just like they did with Agito/Type-0.
I'm also thinking this, but it's tough to be optimistic considering how much Square has sucked it this gen.
Maybe we can get it as a cross-generation title, a la Twilight Princess.
No, for a game to require CoD sales, it needs to have cost about seven hundred million dollars. It's hard to estimate what's been spent on Versus so far, almost certainly still under a hundred million, in which case, they'd need three million units (without factoring marketing). Three to four million would be a realistic expectation.
Not for games that are as long as FFXIII and look as good as FFXIII. Naughty Dog develops a sub-10 hour pipefest in that kind of time-span, you can't seriously think non-sequel-non-asset-recycling RPGs are made in similar time-spans without any compromises?
Isn't it the modelling & creating assets of everything in the game, the animating of the (in-engine) cutscenes and the development of everything you can do in the game the bulk of development? Drawing pretty pictures is part of the development, but turning those into actual environments and playable levels is the time-consuming part of development. And from all they've said, it seems like they had very little of that done prior to late 2008.
Sorry, it's not something I'm making up that XIII is what it is because, for a massive FF game, it had such a short time of actually making the game. They had to make the dungeons linear because making them the sprawling kind would've required much more time, let alone creating big cities you can explore with tons of NPC filling their streets with a lot to say. FFXII shows what they can do when they have a troublesome development, yet still tons of time at their hands. FFXIII shows what they can do when they have a troublesome development and not a lot of time to spend on it after getting past the troubles. Again, there's a reason why they needed to have the development of one of their biggest & most important games halted for that game's team to help finish XIII in time and why the game is so linear. They rushed it out.
Versus isn't suffering from the same problems as XIII (well, other than the initial shit with the Crystal Tools), it's just the much bigger & much more ambitious game, so developing it takes more time as well. It'll hopefully be for this generation what FFXII was for PS2 generation (the best FF and perhaps even JRPG of the generation, and a new milestone that JRPGs should try to achieve)
What do you mean you haven't seen anything like that? Have you not seen the city in the game? Did you not see the battles happening outside the city on open fields? Especially the battles on the fields at day-light clearly show similar fields to FFXII, but even bigger and without loading screens.
Jinfash
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How strong were the Fabula connections in Type-0?
I do hope not, XII was dreadful.
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
.... so speculation... FFX and FFXIII had a big open field. *sigh* The city in the video looked very linear
Type-0 still uses the concepts of l'Cie and such, but in a different way than FF13 does.
EDIT: Edited out some spoilery stuff.
Ooooh, edited. I'm pretty sure that Type-0 does use
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Paracelsus
Member
No way on earth FFXV won't be on PS360U, it would be suicidal to have it on next-gen platforms only.
Combichristoffersen
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I wanted this and XII HD so badly.
I still haven't gotten this, and instead of XII HD Squenix will shit out X HD
I still haven't gotten this, and instead of XII HD Squenix will shit out X HD
No, it's not speculation. You said you hadn't seen them, I said look closer to the 2011 trailer and you can see big open fields that are just like FFXII's, except even more open than XII's and Nomura has said they are aiming for as few loading screens in the game as possible (so one big field isn't like Giza Plains that's just smaller areas connected to each other via loading screens, but the whole area should be traversable without any loading screens). We've already seen at least two different kinds of fields (one was more barren a desert, the other a more lush field with trees and water and stuff). So this is not like the situation with XIII where that one area on Pulse ended up being the only bigger field in the game. This game will be bigger than that, according to Nomura it's no short amount of time it takes to go from one end of the world to the other.
And of course city streets are linear. Hard to make them not linear... But you should be able to explore those streets and small side alleys quite freely. IIRC, Nomura has even hinted that you can get to the rooftops to see what secrets wait there (though, I'm not sure if that's a 100% certain thing).
You mean the best FF since VI. Yes, I agree.
H_Prestige
Banned
Let's be real here. There's no difference between a game in perpetual development and a game no longer in development. We weren't going to play this either way.
Combichristoffersen
Combovers don't work when there is no hair
I like you.
Although I think XII is vastly better than VI since I've never liked VI much anyway.
You mean the worst since III. Yes, I agree.
As for Versus, I don't think it's taking after XII, they were going for something traditional in it's game progression. Originally, it wasn't going to be to scale, then they decided to have the 'world map' be full size. If anything, I'd imagine it's more inline with DQ8.
I guess we'll have to wait and see, or if this rumour is true, wait and never hear shit about it.
H_Prestige
Banned
And FFXII is the closest FF to DQ8.
Also I expect FFX HD to be cancelled eventually as well. It's the new vaporware.
Best FF is the one you enjoy the most, so it's an individual thing
For me it had many great elements that made it feel like a evolution to the FF series, but something was missing, I prefered the story and atmosphere of FF6, 7, 8, 9 10 more but as a game 12 almost beat them, it just didn't suck me into the world like the previous ones. (Fran was great thou...)
I don't agree with that at all. XII is like lots of zones end on end, DQ8 is like any normal Final Fantasy, just not using crazy scale on the overworld.
Oh you, I knew you had to be joking. No one could have this kind of an opinion, surely. :lol
Well, originally some "leaked" small screens clearly showed Versus with a more traditional world map. It wasn't quite as miniature as the likes of pre-PS2 FF's world maps, but it was still a miniature one. Then time went by and in an interview Nomura said that they had since changed it and taken influence from Final Fantasy GPIDJÖDSHJ, where the number of the FF had been blurred. Then, the next time we saw Versus (short clips in June or July 2010), we saw glimpses of the desert where you could run & jump anywhere you wanted with a "real-life" scale gas station and such. That screams FFXII to me, as no other FF is like that. Of course, that's FFXII overworld with improvements that the better hardware made possible.
XII was meant to be more like DQVIII as well, but they failed to achieve a more streamed world, that's why there are loading screens. Still, it's the scale I'm talking of AND the interconnectivity of the different areas. Versus should have all of that as well.
ChosenPredator
Banned
Freeza Under The Shower
Member
the cancellation. Muahaha
alternative:
And the next generation draws its first victim!
(at this point, it is a 'last gen game'anyway)
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
This is the stuff I wanted to hear. Going by video alone specially short clips it's easy to mask linear environments and make it look open world.
13 did the same thing didn't it? - Status