AlteredBeast
Fork 'em, Sparky!
Do you happen to post on other messageboards? I feel like I know you, possibly under the username RiskyChristina? Avatar of a pink Yoshi?
CFA response to anti-gay alleg. "Guilty as charged." Do NOT gloat about eating at CFA
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Do you happen to post on other messageboards? I feel like I know you, possibly under the username RiskyChristina? Avatar of a pink Yoshi?
Oh yeah I'm sure it does. If it seemed like I was saying for everyone it wasn't then that's not the case. As quite evident as some have said in this thread (see: banned casualties from early on) it is that simple for some, and that's rather disappointing.
Omegasquash
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WTF...is it still incredibly difficult for people to understand that, by doing business with Chick-Fil-A, you are indirectly (very near enough to directly for it to matter to you) funding anti-equality organizations? It's not like you're swallowing a pill, here. It's like putting a coin in one of those orbital simulators.
You enjoy seeing how gravity and orbits work. Your money eventually hits bottom after like 2 minutes and is used to fund whatever venue is the owner of said simulator. Jesus.
You enjoy seeing how gravity and orbits work. Your money eventually hits bottom after like 2 minutes and is used to fund whatever venue is the owner of said simulator. Jesus.
Count Dookkake
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Those claims sound more like trolling than genuine intent to add the product to their diets.
Also, the country may be split but the good guys are winning, as evidenced by polling.
This conversation is a good thing.
Pfft.
Dev is a porn connoisseur, not some thirsty white knight.
RobotMafia
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Yeah, I can't believe people put chicken (no matter how tasty the sandwich may be) over actual civil rights. It's an easy enough thing to not support.
It seems you and I agree more or less. Unless you are claiming I'm making this entire thing into a complex moral dilemma, which I don't think I am.
Reading the interview, I was interested in the fact that a lot of these Christian values would be things every one would consider good, like honest hard work and a keen attention to quality and service. It just so happens that something like a fundamental intolerance to a certain demographic getting married (and often times an intolerance to the demo itself) is nestled in with all that.
starchild excalibur
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Ironically, I wonder if this thread has given any more business to the restaurant by virtue of it being in people's consciousness. I haven't had their sandwiches in maybe 4 years and never even thought about them until seeing this thread. I won't support them after finding this info out, but I can't help but admit I've been day-dreaming about their sandwiches a little bit since this thread started.
Alligatorjandro
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Makes you wonder what other companies do
AlteredBeast
Fork 'em, Sparky!
Posting styles and topics posted in match...
It does have a net positive gain for the pro-gay cause, but you have to consider the general make-up and demographic of GAF. Pretty much preaching to the choir, heh.
lol
Didn't this come up previously? Where someone was literally copy/pasting Devo's posts onto another forum? Particularly one of unsavory/racial content? Not saying that's where you're talking about or anything :lol
ihearthawthats
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i really don't know and i'm actually quite curious now. most of the chicken debates have always been about kfc vs popeyes as far as i've seen. churches randomly pops up, but i can't honestly recall too many chick-fil-a's. so to see how much praise it's got in this thread is a bit surprising to me.
Count Dookkake
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Like being smart enough not to alienate an entire demographic.
Are you seriously suggesting she is a RiskyChris alt?
Except for those choir members who were ignorant of the subject, heh.
Well of course, why else would the pastor be preaching to them?
Dude Abides
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Well you were talking about how intricate the situation is, which was my jumping-off point. I'm also not sure how hard work and attention to quality and service are particularly Christian values.
Why don't you PM a mod to do an alt investigation instead of this passive aggressive call-out? This is kind of beneath you.
Count Dookkake
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So "preaching to the choir," as you used it, has little value as an observation? Ok.
RobotMafia
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Well, I'm sure there are some gay-hating people out there who will eat there more just because of their stance (although that's not what you were talking about). One can just hope that MORE people disagree with their stance on gay rights and will not go there.
I feel bad for the employees, mostly.
I said it wasn't simply a binary situation, as your posts kept postulating. It has intricacies beyond the two streamlined choices that were implicitly set up in a right or wrong manner a number of times throughout this thread.
They aren't solely Christian values. But they are values that Christians hold.
CornBurrito
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I don't think you understand what preaching to the choir means then.
ViewtifulJC
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Well this thread did prompt me to contact my cousin, who is gay. I filled her in -she lives in Chicago and doesn't know jack about the chain - and I get the feeling she would have cussed me out if I were not her older cousin. She seemed hurt by the fact I still considered eating there. Well that settled it for me more than anything, although I will still have awhen driving by a Chick-fil-a. So fuck you Chick-fil-a, and your amazing, bigoted chicken.
Why couldn't this has been some shitty fast food joint like McDonalds or Taco Bell
Omegasquash
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"Sorry sir, I need to find a new job. I can't sleep well at night knowing that my hard work and our customer's dollars are funding bigots and their messaging."
Not to trivialize it, but I really wouldn't have a problem if my kid, or wife, or brother or whatever quit because of a principle.
Alligatorjandro
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Why couldn't this has been some shitty fast food joint like McDonalds or Taco Bell
Taco Bell is great so hush that mess.
^I didn't know you were a bucs fan.
I actually do. I mistook that thread of convo as a fun little aside and that the implicit meaning would be preserved even with that amendment -- or he just wouldn't care. I wasn't expecting it to be scrutinized, especially since we generally agreed on the point the aside was spawned from. It's serious mode all the time in these threads, I see. Rookie mistake.
I actually do. I mistook that thread of convo as a fun little aside and that the implicit meaning would be preserved even with that amendment -- or he just wouldn't care. I wasn't expecting it to be scrutinized, especially since we generally agreed on the point the aside was spawned from. It's serious mode all the time in these threads, I see. Rookie mistake.
I haven't had it in a while. Going to have it tonight because of this thread.
GotEmRunnin
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Forgive me folks, but I just heard about this on the news this morning. Now from what I understand they are basically standing on their beliefs. They in no way shape or form have discriminated against the gay and lesbian community have they?
I'm a Christian but I also have gay cousins and friends and would very much like to not offend them by supporting chic fil a.
I'm a Christian but I also have gay cousins and friends and would very much like to not offend them by supporting chic fil a.
I'm a diabetic so I shouldn't be eating their food anyway
AlteredBeast
Fork 'em, Sparky!
I am actually joking about the RiskyChris thing, guys...jeez.
Count Dookkake
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I got that you were joking, I just don't agree that the joke reflects an understanding of what has occurred. Telling a joke does not grant you a pass to distort things. It is okay to mix humor and debate, but it can be difficult to do both and there is a learning curve.
CornBurrito
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If you do not count donating millions of dollars to anti-gay causes as discrimination, then nope.
If you do, then yes they have discriminated.
VelvetMouth
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Chik fil a winning back some goodwill by opening at 4:30 to take care of cops and people from other devices working the Aurora shootings.
They donate to organizations that have an active anti-gay agenda. So yes, more or less.
Fair enough.
Death Dealer
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Dude their meat isn't real. It's like goop coming out of an extruder.
Note: I will eat Taco Bell, but it's not great.
Joe Prodigy
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+1 for "Mickey Mouse bullshit" if that was a Norman Stansfield reference.
Alligatorjandro
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no meat is real anyway
This is my favorite post in the thread. I literally laughed out loud. Monocle often summarizes a point well and with sharp humor, but this is about as good as it gets.
Yes. I read the OP, and concluded that my one visit was more than enough. I will not be visiting the establishment again until they have reversed their position.
Dude Abides
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No, there really aren't any intricacies. It's a chicken sandwich. Assuming you disagree with what the owners do on this score, either you like the product so much that it outweighs what the owners do so you eat it anyway, or you don't. That's pretty much it.
No more so than anyone else.
Sure, but I think the best way to describe it is that you know when buy a Yoplait with a pink lid, pennies of you purchase goes to breast cancer awareness? Or when you buy a happy meal, portions of your purchase go to the Ronald McDonald house?
This is similar, except it's going to an anti-gay hate group. They just don't go advertising things on the box or go discriminating against employees.
They don't directly discriminate (e.g. turning gay customers away or something), but they do donate a fair amount of money to groups that vilify LBGT people and paint them as monsters.
No. They don't hate gays or refuse to employ them or anything.
They are against marriage between members of the same sex.
SquiddyCracker
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While it is true that everything you buy end up supporting one shady activity or another, it's always nice when you know that abstaining from buying from X will for sure mean that you're not supporting Y.
. . .and their charity gives funds to a hate group (because describing the FRC as anything less than that would be disingenuous).
Trent Strong
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Why couldn't this has been some shitty fast food joint like McDonalds or Taco Bell
Well, McDonals cuts down rain forests to make grazing land for cows if that helps. I think you'd be hard pressed to find a big corporation that doesn't do something unethical. And, of course, eating meat is unethical. There's no reason to cause pain and suffering to animals when you can live on a vegan diet.
Oh boy....
I'd argue that those two positions are the same thing. But they also give millions to the FRC, which is a blatant hate organization.
SquiddyCracker
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Only Siths think in absolutes.
Every little thing you do is better than doing nothing whatsoever is my view.
If you REALLY like Chick-Fil-A, then it's understandable if you can't cut it out despite not liking what your money end up indirectly supporting. Maybe switching to KFC would result in your money not ending up indirectly supporting anti-gay sentiments, but then your money might end up indirectly supporting something else that you might not want to support.
It's all about finding the balance between what you want, and what you do.
RobotMafia
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Well, I think Chik fil A actually pays better than most fast food places (or maybe it was In and Out). With that I would feel bad. When looking for a job almost all people don't give a shit about the overlord company. They just want a job.
Trent Strong
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I'm not thinking in absolutes though. Some other people in this thread are, like Kryptonian. I agree that every little thing you do is better than doing nothing, and I am going to boycott chick-fil-a (not that I ate there very often in the first place).
ViewtifulJC
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My mom is bringing home Chick-Fil-A
what do I do
what do I do
Sodomize it with your face.
Trent Strong
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Disown her.
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