PsihoPerihelion
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I hope is death. Been waiting for so long for it that I don't even give a crap anymore.
Kotaku Rumor: Final Fantasy Versus XIII dead?
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legacyzero
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This.
Final Fantasy XIII was enough to reinforce that for me. To be fair though, XIII-2 was a WAY better game. Damage was already done though =/
Junior, even though that's debunked, that was a HELLUVA feature list, and one DREAMY Final Fantasy!
I just meant, I don't remember the answer being 'we're toying with the idea of porting it', I remember it more like 'why is it exclusive?', 'we're looking into it', but it's been a while.
ZombiePlatypus
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The bright side is that if this snowballs further, it'll hopefully force SE to show SOMETHING from the game soon as opposed to keeping it locked away while shoving more MMOs and direct sequels to XIII down our throats.
Stumpokapow
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In 2008, you got banned for posting VG Chartz numbers that were reposted on The-Magicbox.
Combichristoffersen
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Do mods have access to posters' ban history? If so, could you check what ban message I got the second time I was banned? From what I recall I was banned for accidentally outing myself as having.. um.. acquired one of the Twilight movies via not quite legal sources, and the mod who banned me (may have been Amirox?) sent me a hilarious message about how he hoped the Twilight movie was worth the ban, or something like that :lol
makingmusic476
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I hope it's not canceled. Everything we had heard about this game sounded awesome. Giant (seamless?) world + map, battles in and out of cities, flashy action-based combat. Then there was that gameplay video.
It looked like they had laid the groundwork for the best JRPG of all time, provided they didn't screw up the story and pacing or something.
It looked like they had laid the groundwork for the best JRPG of all time, provided they didn't screw up the story and pacing or something.
Broder Salsa
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It's the fun of gaming side, don't take it away!
H_Prestige
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Or it will force them to confirm that it really is cancelled =p
But will they? Bowing to internet pressure doesn't seem to be their thing and the mindset is probably something like "we'll show it when we're ready."
With XIII-3 likely coming so soon, and FFXIV 2.0 getting the spotlight... would it really be wise to show Versus XIII which would likely overshadow both entirely?
ZombiePlatypus
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Yeah, I know. ;__;
I will still hold out hope. One day, I will walk into a store and buy both TLG and Versus XIII together. The latter will have a bonus demo of FFVII HD and KHIII. (T___T)
Hypereides
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Well given the fact we've been waiting for this game for 6 - nearly 7- years, its probably been a massive moneysink for SE.
Some aspects seemed overambitious aswell.
Might aswell drop it and transfer whatever they can from it over to FFXV.
Some aspects seemed overambitious aswell.
Might aswell drop it and transfer whatever they can from it over to FFXV.
Yes. Not a very credible site.
ZombiePlatypus
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I guess it'll come down to marketing/timing strategy vs. goodwill of their fans. I mean, there are always gonna be a stream of new projects to promote. At one point you have to draw the line somewhere and say "enough's enough, now's Versus time."
nelsonroyale
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Its quite funny, because you usually think publishers will try to increase sales with sequels, but thats definitely not going to happen with FFXIII-3 I reckon. Didn't they say they wanted to make the ff series and rpg equivalent of modern warfare or something. Funny that they actually seem to be selling less than previous titles. Wander what focus groups they are aiming for...
ZombiePlatypus
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As each XIII sequel sells less than its predecessor, they'll eventually get to a point where they reign Toriyama back right? I feel like I shouldn't even ask such a dumb question, but this is SE and I honestly wouldn't be surprised if they freaking watch FFXIII-3 bomb and proceed to ordain Toriyama as Mega Czar of Final Fantasy or something.
That is typically the goal, yes. But when you have a game like FFXIII that had mixed reception, it's going to be hard to convince those same people to buy a direct sequel, especially when XIII wasn't planned to be a trilogy from the start.
TheChillyAcademic
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ZombiePlatypus
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Assuming they opt to make it only a trilogy. D:
nelsonroyale
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and these sequels are not doing much to attract new fans...infact, it seems they are trying to go after and new market...I remember toriyama or some such saying that ffxiii was aimed towards teens or something, not so much to people in there twenties (who probably make up the main bulk of the series fans incidentally)...it is modern greed and fallacy to be honest. Try and attract new customers with accessibilty etc and screw your current base
edgefusion
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Final Fantasy XIII-7, the other Final Fantasy VII.
They also tried to go after NBA fans and viewers of Spike TV - I wonder how that worked out for them.
Maybe a shitty game that gets released is better than vapourware that sucks up company resources for half a decade?
Nomura has been deeply involved in a number of projects this generation.
He's directed KH:Coded, KH
S, KH
SP, KHDD, he's been a creative producer on TWEWY, CC:FF7, Dissidia 1/2, T3B, and he's been a character design on a few others. He's been busy.Sohter.Nura
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I've been expecting this for quite a while. I've been assuming versus 13 is vaporware for a couple years unless proven otherwise.
H_Prestige
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Nomura has been deeply involved in a number of projects this generation.
He's directed KH:Coded, KH
What about all the other Versus staff? It's not just one guy.
When discussing Nomura, I don't see what that matters. I have no idea what the other staff have been doing.
Viola of the Abyss
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Nomura has been deeply involved in a number of projects this generation.
He's directed KH:Coded, KH
Maybe even too busy...
This was also a concurrent joke between my friends when he was juggling all together Advent Children, Kingdom Hearts 2, Dirge of Cerberus, Crisis Core and another project (that would end up being The World Ends With You).
How many projects is he managing now at the same time other than Versus and the next Kingdom Hearts?
ZombiePlatypus
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As mentioned, Nomura has put out other games, almost all of which have faired far better than Toriyama's XIII games. Also, nothing's vaporware until it's definitely canceled.
H_Prestige
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Why single out only Nomura? The poster you were replying to said the Versus project has been a money sink, not that Nomura hasn't been productive for the last six years.
Kagari's info is about a month old. Versus was allegedly cancelled a couple of weeks ago.
Stealth20k
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a mod here said its being dated at tgs. Thats good enough for me
Twilight Princess
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Better be true. I like lightnings shitty friends better than Noctis' shitty friends.
Right now he's probably not on that many. He's being less involved with the mainline FFs as it goes on it appears, he probably isn't spending too much time on XV/XVI, I doubt he's juggling a ton of KHs, 3 is probably the only one in the pipeline.
It's probably the least he's had to balance for a long time.
I didn't, the discussion was which director is of more value to Square Enix.
BlueSummers
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I really don't buy into the idea that Versus is not being shown as not to over shadow their upcoming games. It's their choice what they decide to make and show. They could clearly focus on Versus and XIV 2.0, but they choose to do something more with Lightning and XIII instead.
Either it really is taking this long to make (unlikely), or they are just choosing to not show it because they believe it wont sell, or it's not being worked on anymore.
Either it really is taking this long to make (unlikely), or they are just choosing to not show it because they believe it wont sell, or it's not being worked on anymore.
ZombiePlatypus
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Why wouldn't they have cancelled it ages ago then? If that's what they're doing, they can't keep the charade going forever, and the longer they take to come clean or announce its cancelation, the larger the backlash will be.
See... the thing is, this wouldn't have been a bad idea if they did it for Versus XIII. Not XIII-2.
H_Prestige
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I don't think there is a big overlap between NBA fans and anime fans.
ZombiePlatypus
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It might be for the better. Can you imagine crap like Kobe/Shaq x Chocobolina fanfic/doujin?
Consistent development didn't really begin on the game until around 2009 though, despite being announced in 2006.
Near the end of 2009 they decided to switch from a PS1 style overworld to something more along the lines of FF12, so in theory the bulk of what we've seen on the game has only been around since 2010 - meaning the stuff from the 2011 gameplay video.
Also consider the engine went through a lot of changes before that and is very different than the one FFXIII used. It's more action based with the lighting from Luminous Engine - something that probably came into being last year.
nelsonroyale
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I seriously doubt it would sell less than FFXIII-2 if it is half decent...many of the features that game included seem to be more attractive to western gamers than FFXIII...I don't doubt many of the Japanese gamers were also underwhelmed by FFXIII
ZombiePlatypus
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I may be wrong, but I remember reading how FFXIII was the fastest FF in Japan to have a resell rate and fill up the used/bargain bins. (Don't quote me on this though.)
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