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Him saying "Bruce Wayne?" instead of "Bruce?" feels off, but then again, Gordon has never ever been close to Bruce Wayne. They've only met serendipitously, never as true friends or w/e. So it makes sense, the line delivery just feels weird in a "whaaaa?" kind of way instead of "oooooh."
 
Him saying "Bruce Wayne?" instead of "Bruce?" feels off, but then again, Gordon has never ever been close to Bruce Wayne. They've only met serendipitously, never as true friends or w/e. So it makes sense, the line delivery just feels weird in a "whaaaa?" kind of way instead of "oooooh."

Should have been 'Bruce Wayne?' followed by a moment of realization, then as Batman is getting into the bat 'What are you doing?'

'What's necessary.'

Bruce kills Batman.
 
I want to see it again tomorrow.

anyone else thing the score is great but the way the score in the film was poor. Sound mixing was poop in imax.
 
As intense as these films are, they rarely have any blood in them.

Oddly enough, I believe that Begins has more blood in in than the two "Dark Knight" films put together. I guess that's because the violence is more brutal in the later films (Joker carving faces, Bane snapping necks, etc.) that they couldn't really show blood and get away with it under the PG-13 rating. They did a transfusion on the plane though!
 
I want to see it again tomorrow.

anyone else thing the score is great but the way the score in the film was poor. The mixing or whatever you called it was poor.

The score is flat out garbage compared to BB's vastly superior score (and TDK's score to a lesser extent). Dat lack of JNH is unmistakable and really hurt the score. All the best cues are rearrangments of BB stuff.
 
As intense as these films are, they rarely have any blood in them.

It's a bit of a shame. In TDK script Joker is supposed to be bleeding and spitting teeth while laughing at Batman.

Shit, even John Carter has him decapitating people and coloured-blood spurting out of every sword wound - even on the humans of Mars. Nolman should have just made the blood black like LotR!
 
I agree mostly. If they got rid of the name bullshit and him being led to the Batcave I wouldn't mind SO much. I still think it would be better if half of his screen time had been given to Gordon's character instead. He was an unnecessary substitute.

Also his revelation to Bruce was ridiculous.

I sort of agree. I guess they needed to develop Blake for the next possible set up but Gordon really took a backseat which bothered me.

I would have much rather liked it if Gordon was more front and center. And I would only like the Blake angle if he proceeds to be Robin and not Batman. To me Batman not being Bruce goes off into a weird territory where I only enjoy it if its Batman Beyond.
 
"More copycats last night Alfred, with guns."

"Why don't you hire them and take the weekend off?"

"That wasn't, exactly what I had in mind when I uh.. said I wanted to inspire people."

My point is that will is obviously NOT everything. You need the training and shit to do it right. Blake doesn't have that.
 
The score is flat out garbage compared to BB's vastly superior score (and TDK's score to a lesser extent). Dat lack of JNH is unmistakable and really hurt the score. All the best cues are rearrangments of BB stuff.

Well BB set the precedent of the themes of batman, so obviously the score would be lifted from that, I thought on the soundtrack alone the score is fairly decent and the remixes from BB OST was great but in the movie, it almost didn't work.
 
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What exactly does Miranda/Talia say to Bruce about her dad? I didn't catch it clearly and my wife thinks it was something about "I didn't care/respect my dad until you killed him".
 
I agree mostly. If they got rid of the name bullshit and him being led to the Batcave I wouldn't mind SO much. I still think it would be better if half of his screen time had been given to Gordon's character instead. He was an unnecessary substitute.

Also his revelation to Bruce was ridiculous.

I felt he added to the movie, by being Representative of the city. Him and his story arc built up the city, so that when Bane's occupation and attempt at destruction came, you could feel the impact on the citizens, at least alot more than NYC in Avengers.



Upon my 2nd time watching the movie (IMAX), I picked up 3 things i didn't noticed my first time (regular theater).

1. The Black cop outside the Stock Exchange, that has speaking lines. His name tag is Allen. Crispus Allen, perhaps ;)

2. I had wondered how Blake just "spotted" Selina and followed her to the airport. I realized, that the last time Blake saw Bruce, Bruce had asked him to drop him off in Oldtown (to go to Selina). After Bruce is defeated by Bane, Blake shows up at his house looking for him, but gets no answer. So he returns to the place he last saw him, then sees the woman from the bar.

3. For some reason, I couldn't tell in the regular theater, that Bruce dropped the big rope back down into the pit. I had thought he just kind of kept going, and I thought "kind of a dick move, Bruce, but ok, they're criminals, right?" But in IMAX the bottom of the screen was clearer (or just larger) and I see him dropping the rope into the pit. Probably just me not paying attention the 1st time.



Asking again since it didn't get answered.

What exactly does Miranda/Talia say to Bruce about her dad? I didn't catch it clearly and my wife thinks it was something about "I didn't care/respect my dad until you killed him".

That's basically it. She didn't like him for what he did to Bane. But when he died, she changed her mind.
 
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What exactly does Miranda/Talia say to Bruce about her dad? I didn't catch it clearly and my wife thinks it was something about "I didn't care/respect my dad until you killed him".

"I never forgave him until you murdered him."
 
"I never forgave him until you murdered him."

Why would she need to forgive him? For not accepting Bane?

EDIT: The hallucination scene where Bruce thinks he sees Ras was perfect. Bruce from BB and TDKR looked identical in that scene.

Theater laughed crazy loud when Scarecrow showed up. Poor Cillian...GIVE HIM A LEAD ROLE NOLAN!
 
My point is that will is obviously NOT everything. You need the training and shit to do it right. Blake doesn't have that.

You really want to discuss the probability of Blake actually being Batman for real!? C'mon, all you can argue that Bruce Wayne is wrong in the head all movie when he kept egging Blake to put on a mask.
 
REAL TALK: What did you know before watching the movie?

I knew Ra's and Liam Neeson were in it, and that Miranda was Talia( that damn set photo)....thats about it.
 
REAL TALK: What did you know before watching the movie?

I knew Ra's and Liam Neeson were in it, and that Miranda was Talia( that damn set photo)....thats about it.

I feel like somebody mentioned the Talia thing somewhere, but I just dismissed it. Same iwth Bane holding the city hostage with a nuke. seemed tooo big for a Batman movie.
 
REAL TALK: What did you know before watching the movie?

I knew Ra's and Liam Neeson were in it, and that Miranda was Talia( that damn set photo)....thats about it.

That and

Josh Pence was playing a younger Ra's
Joey King was playing a younger Talia

And I still didn't believe that Miranda was Talia, I fucking trusted her the same way I trusted Nolan that he didn't want anything to do with Robin

I still love him
 
Can someone explain to me exactly why bane needed the mask? I missed the explanation and all I remember is that he got badly wounded after being beaten by the inmates and that doesn't really explain the mask to me.
 
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