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[shanshan310]

actually nothing really changes when you start a relationship except you have to take into account the other person too which changes you drastically if you want to keep this relationship afloat. And if you have depression or anger problems your relationship will make you fix them. Going out will probably get you laid sooner or later but you can't keep a relationship without changing yourself.

No. nonononononono. That's no how it works. All you will do is bring your anger problems into the relationship.

Agree with the last sentence though.

 

[SquiddyCracker]

Again, I feel like I need to explain that I'm not some pickup master. I've read a handfull of books but I never actually started to actively and consciously use it. I've toyed with the idea of using some of the funnier "tricks" to see if they work and because some seem like a fun time for everyone involved but I've never actually done it. If anything, PUA made my approach anxiety worse!

Reading the books with an open mind (a mind that was entirely empty as well) helped me see that yeah, some of the teachings do sound mysoginistic and all that but it's only on the surface and not the intent at all. I figured that the terms exist for a reason, people with more experience than me have seen enough evidence to be able to coin terms. And my own experience after reading about it just confirms it.

The "terms" are all based on their particular form of reality distortion device, and if you pay attention to what these terms really do, they're all related to making procuring sex a possibility.
That should in itself speak about the validity of those terms.
They're just generalizations and simplifications of complex behavior, summed up in a catchy way for one reason only - so that you can apply a "solution" to it.

If we ban the usage of terms like that in this thread, then I'd be more than happy to drop this whole discussion on PUA/Gaming/whatever.

 

[Vermillion]

Then we should be telling people that they don't need to be totally confident to make it, all they need is to take that one first step, instead of telling them to 'fake it'.

Telling them to fake it makes taking the first step that much easier, though. When you think, "alright, I'm going to do this" it's easier to be confident if you're thinking you don't have to be confident at all. I know that saying "fake it" sounds disingenuous, but it really isn't. Don't get so caught up on terms - one way or the other, it's helping people. And it's not truly lying.

 

[Minamu]

Your avatar + this post makes me imagine the Willy Wonka meme.

I'm just getting a bit annoyed by seeing people forming really strong subjective opinions on a matter they haven't actually researched with an objective view combined with seeing lots of misconceptions thrown around.

But I think I'm done. I recently took a break from the thread and I'm gonna do it again. There's too much hostility in here that helps noone and most videos and outside the box ideas posted in an attempt to help others are met with anger and disbelief.

 

[Omegasquash]

actually nothing really changes when you start a relationship except you have to take into account the other person too which changes you drastically if you want to keep this relationship afloat. And if you have depression or anger problems your relationship will make you fix them. Going out will probably get you laid sooner or later but you can't keep a relationship without changing yourself.

I feel like we're talking about two different things...I'm just saying that going out and doing your thing is a confidence booster. Your goal can be to make friends, get laid, find an SO...whatever. Minus confidence, you're going to be starting off in a bad place in your relationship that, while it can be fixed, isn't ideal.

Your relationship can motivate you do fix your issues, yes. But ask anyone if they want to be with someone that's depressed or has anger issues and they're likely to say no. And I can't blame them. And this is coming from a guy that battled his depression and won (as much as anyone can, that is).

 

[subversus]

All you will do is bring your anger problems into the relationship.

Yes, this is exactly what happens. And then you see the problem and then you fix it if you want to keep the partner. Love is the best motivator.

 

[Omegasquash]

Yes, this is exactly what happens. And then you see the problem and then you fix it if you want to keep the partner. Love is the best motivator.

And what happens when that love isn't there anymore, Subversus? I don't know if you've ever been dumped, betrayed or whatever, but when that motivation is gone you're running a real risk of hitting the ground very, very hard.

 

[Jackben]

if you have depression or anger problems your relationship will fix them.

Sorry, but this is absolutely terrible advice.

Love can motivate a lot of things but making personal changes especially when it comes to anger, self-confidence and depression is something that has to come from within.

You don't just hop into a relationship and expect love to work things out.

 

[SquiddyCracker]

And what happens when that love isn't there anymore, Subversus? I don't know if you've ever been dumped, betrayed or whatever, but when that motivation is gone you're running a real risk of hitting the ground very, very hard.

This.

With that said, partners can help you out a bit if you're already in the process of improving yourself in one particular area. But the relationship being the prime motivator of that is a bad idea.

 

[subversus]

And what happens when that love isn't there anymore, Subversus? I don't know if you've ever been dumped, betrayed or whatever, but when that motivation is gone you're running a real risk of hitting the ground very, very hard.

well, your girl leaves you, you learn a valuable lesson, start working on yourself and next time you do better.

 

[DY_nasty]

But you seem incredibly opinionated, hostile, angry and offended by it all, based on your posts. Why? You seem to care a lot since you call it PUA shit and all.

Joker: They are terms coined in the "Mystery Method". What they describe is human psychology. Quite a few seem to take offense to that. I can agree that the exploitation of it is less than admirable in some cases.

Most if not all of the links to this pua stuff treats talking to people like big game hunting.

You can't build any kind of substantial relationship based on that alone. And the focus on the sole point of "just go talk to her. It'll build confidence" is neglecting so many other factors that it does the majority of its users a true disservice. What about the next date? What about those insecurities you never addressed? What about getting to actually know the person you're talking to? What about being okay with yourself before asking someone else to take that responsibility for you? There are so many other things that come before this one aspect, that isn't even necessary, that are more important by far.

Most people would be better off by far by simply not treating talking to women like its a predatory hunt and instead just focus on making friends, having their personal shit together, and being clear about what they want as those friends introduce them to others in that circle.

This pua stuff, even the "better" stuff, is still nothing but a leap away from LMR and other things that make it seem that women wont want to be near you unless you talk them into it.

 

[Vermillion]

This.

With that said, partners can help you out a bit if you're already in the process of improving yourself in one particular area. But the relationship being the prime motivator of that is a bad idea.

Exactly this.

well, your girl leaves you, you learn a valuable lesson, start working on yourself and next time you do better.

On one end, with all relationships you learn a lesson, particularly when they end.

On the other, I agree that it's a bad idea because if you're already a depressed/awkward person, a relationship as your only motivator gives you the very real risk of falling really hard and refusing to get up.

 

[subversus]

On the other, I agree that it's a bad idea because if you're already a depressed/awkward person, a relationship as your only motivator gives you the very real risk of falling really hard and refusing to get up.

there is always risk. So what? You fall hard, you get up, you do better next time. May be you won't want to fall hard next time and thus stop being a dumbass.

 

[DY_nasty]

Incorrect. You go up to any girl you find attractive in the hopes of determining whether or not they're right for you. Thinking about it the other way around only leads to quicker depression if you're rejected.

Its the same thing.

Running up to every attractive girl you see and shooting for moon regardless of situation is just desperate. Thats what shotgunning is. "Anyone. Plz. Like me. "

I'm just addressing what kin said.

 

[Vermillion]

Most if not all of the links to this pua stuff treats talking to people like big game hunting.

You can't build any kind of substantial relationship based on that alone. And the focus on the sole point of "just go talk to her. It'll build confidence" is neglecting so many other factors that it does the majority of its users a true disservice. What about the next date? What about those insecurities you never addressed? What about getting to actually know the person you're talking to? What about being okay with yourself before asking someone else to take that responsibility for you? There are so many other things that come before this one aspect, that isn't even necessary, that are more important by far.

Most people would be better off by far by simply not treating talking to women like its a predatory hunt and instead just focus on making friends, having their personal shit together, and being clear about what they want as those friends introduce them to others in that circle.

This pua stuff, even the "better" stuff, is still nothing but a leap away from LMR and other things that make it seem that women wont want to be near you unless you talk them into it.

And you're looking at the links too, fantastic. Maybe I'm wrong in what I'm referring to...

At any rate... what? What about the next date? How about trying to talk to them again?

What about the insecurities you never addressed? You mean the ones where you think you aren't good enough for a girl that are solved when you decide you'll go talk to one (finally believing you are)?

What about getting to know the person you're talking to? I think that's what you do with talking.

What about being okay with yourself before asking someone else to take that responsibility for you? See: insecurities. I think that many of you are assuming that people are damaged outside of trying to talk to people that they like. Because usually that's the main thing. It's not you lowering your self worth, it's usually you elevating theirs.

And I don't know what you mean by a predatory hunt or the rest of your post.

 

[Vermillion]

there is always risk. So what? You fall hard, you get up, you do better next time. May be you won't want to fall hard next time and thus stop being a dumbass.

Too many people won't get up though. It's dangerous as advice.

Its the same thing.

Running up to every attractive girl you see and shooting for moon regardless of situation is just desperate. Thats what shotgunning is. "Anyone. Plz. Like me. "

I'm just addressing what kin said.

Every girl that you find attractive, and no, it's not desperate. I mean, really, where's your sense of wonder? As I quoted before "if you see a girl you like, talk to her, because she could be the girl of your dreams."

What's the purpose of discouraging people from trying? Don't be obnoxious about it, but sometimes you have to take the chance, because life is short. The girl you saw in the grocery store five years ago could have been the girl beyond your dreams, yet you end up still looking because you didn't like the situation.

 

[Opus Angelorum]

Shyness isn't the same as social awkwardness and women have varying tastes. If being shy isn't preventing you from talking to people, then it's not a problem.

Being shy does make it difficult for me to talk to people, I feel awkward during social occasions.

At least in my case, I was incredibly shy, but eventually I became comfortable with my boyfriend and stopped being shy around him. I also began to rely on him in social situations I was uncomfortable in. Becoming confident was something I had to work out on my own.

Personally I don't relate being to shy to lacking confidence. I have great belief in what I say, but I am shy expressing it. If that makes sense.

 

[DY_nasty]

A lot of people in this thread have social issues and depression. Instead of pointing them towards pua with a smile, ignoring all their other obvious problems, tell them to take an honest look in the mirror without all the excuse making.

For so many, pua is a shortcut.

And how is it not predatory? Its all about singling a woman out, lowering her defenses, then talking her up until you get what you want. Thats the entire basis of it.

 

[shanshan310]

Personally I don't relate being to shy to lacking confidence. I have great belief in what I say, but I am shy expressing it. If that makes sense.

I suppose, but I used the terms interchangeably so I don't think this alters my intended meaning.

 

[DY_nasty]

Every girl that you find attractive, and no, it's not desperate. I mean, really, where's your sense of wonder? As I quoted before "if you see a girl you like, talk to her, because she could be the girl of your dreams."

What's the purpose of discouraging people from trying? Don't be obnoxious about it, but sometimes you have to take the chance, because life is short. The girl you saw in the grocery store five years ago could have been the girl beyond your dreams, yet you end up still looking because you didn't like the situation.

I think you're simply arguing something other than what kintairi was saying. Still, there are -plenty- of attractive women on this planet and talking to every single one of them as if rejection rates are higher than unemployment is just... it should never be that bad. If it is, there's probably a much bigger underlying issue.

Also, going out looking for the girl of your dreams is a recipe for disaster. Before I got to college I had the mentality of "I only need to find the right one and I'll be content with that. I don't need to be like those other guys who date 3 girls at a time... I just want ...her~" and it is not a healthy attitude at all.

 

[Vermillion]

A lot of people in this thread have social issues and depression. Instead of pointing them towards pua with a smile, ignoring all their other obvious problems, tell them to take an honest look in the mirror without all the excuse making.

For so many, pua is a shortcut.

And how is it not predatory? Its all about singling a woman out, lowering her defenses, then talking her up until you get what you want. Thats the entire basis of it.

1) What we usually do here is we tell people to fix themselves first. We tell them how to build confidence. So besides a couple of posts, I don't know what you're talking about.

2) So you pick a group of girls you like at the same time and roll with that? And lowering her defenses... what? What defenses? Talking her up until you get what you want? I don't know how else someone asks anyone on a date besides talking to them in the hopes that they'll agree.

On another note:
Since we're on this subject, how do you guys think someone should get a one night stand with someone they don't know (or really care to see again)?
Though I would like to stress that this isn't the purpose of the topic at all, and not what we've been helping people to do. It's still "Dating" Age, after all.

 

[Vermillion]

I think you're simply arguing something other than what kintairi was saying. Still, there are -plenty- of attractive women on this planet and talking to every single one of them as if rejection rates are higher than unemployment is just... it should never be that bad. If it is, there's probably a much bigger underlying issue.

Also, going out looking for the girl of your dreams is a recipe for disaster. Before I got to college I had the mentality of "I only need to find the right one and I'll be content with that. I don't need to be like those other guys who date 3 girls at a time... I just want ...her~" and it is not a healthy attitude at all.

1) Why not try your chances? Why does someone have to wait for the right moment, or go through the proper channels? As I said, there are no rules. People can do as they want when it comes to asking out people they like. That statement is gender-neutral.

2) I said girl "beyond" your dreams, because we all know there isn't just one.

 

[Omegasquash]

well, your girl leaves you, you learn a valuable lesson, start working on yourself and next time you do better.

Point is, save yourself the headache and the whole "one step forward, two steps back" bit. I see it as start working on yourself first and you'll do better, but we both have our opinions, and they both work in certain situations. Sounds like we'll have to agree to disagree on this one, but no hard feelings though, yeah?

 

[Kung Fu Grip]

I think this thread scares people like me who find it extremely hard to talk to girls. Too much over analyzing and games in this thread imo. It should be as simple as going up to a girl your interested in, saying hi, and let the rest flow. But it's not the simple. Everybody wants to play games.

Anyway. How can you tell if a girl likes you? I was on the train last week heading to work and there was this girl that kept staring at me. This NEVER really happens to me at all so it was weird. I was thinking she probably thinks im so damn ugly, lol. But she continued looking. As if trying to figure something out. And maby im looking into this too much but when i was getting off my stop it looked like she kind of hesitated to get up. Like she wasn't sure if she should. But she did anyway. She walked alll the way to the other train i was getting on too. Could be a coincidence and that she was heading in the same direction, which i know thats the case.

Im probably looking into this too much. Like said, that never happens to me. I got excited.

Spoiler

Any truth to no fapping gives you motivation to talk to girls?

 

[SquiddyCracker]

Spoiler

Any truth to no fapping gives you motivation to talk to girls?

Anyway. How can you tell if a girl likes you? I was on the train last week heading to work and there was this girl that kept staring at me. This NEVER really happens to me at all so it was weird. I was thinking she probably thinks im so damn ugly, lol. But she continued looking. As if trying to figure something out. And maby im looking into this too much but when i was getting off my stop it looked like she kind of hesitated to get up. Like she wasn't sure if she should. But she did anyway. She walked alll the way to the other train i was getting on too. Could be a coincidence and that she was heading in the same direction, which i know thats the case.

Maybe she thought "damn he's ugly", maybe she thought "he looks interesting", or maybe she was blind.
If you never start up a conversation, you will never know, so next time you know that an easy way of avoiding questions like this is to try your best to talk with her.

Considering it is a train though, you might want to wait until the last minute so as to not end up in an awkward situation for the entire duration of your trip

 

[Vermillion]

I think this thread scares people like me who find it extremely hard to talk to girls. Too much over analyzing and games in this thread imo. It should be as simple as going up to a girl your interested in, saying hi, and let the rest flow. But it's not the simple. Everybody wants to play games.

Anyway. How can you tell if a girl likes you? I was on the train last week heading to work and there was this girl that kept staring at me. This NEVER really happens to me at all so it was weird. I was thinking she probably thinks im so damn ugly, lol. But she continued looking. As if trying to figure something out. And maby im looking into this too much but when i was getting off my stop it looked like she kind of hesitated to get up. Like she wasn't sure if she should. But she did anyway. She walked alll the way to the other train i was getting on too. Could be a coincidence and that she was heading in the same direction, which i know thats the case.

Im probably looking into this too much. Like said, that never happens to me. I got excited.

Spoiler

Any truth to no fapping gives you motivation to talk to girls?

So you started reading the thread on the last two pages too, huh?

And you can tell by hints they'll give off. Staring... I have no clue.

And technically, yes, as testosterone levels will build. Then they'll drop after like, a week. Something like that.

 

[DY_nasty]

1) What we usually do here is we tell people to fix themselves first. We tell them how to build confidence. So besides a couple of posts, I don't know what you're talking about.

2) So you pick a group of girls you like at the same time and roll with that? And lowering her defenses... what? What defenses? Talking her up until you get what you want? I don't know how else someone asks anyone on a date besides talking to them in the hopes that they'll agree.

1) I dont see that. I see people just giving out pats on the back and saying "you'll get it together bro!" when that person really needs someone to tell them that they got issues and that they need to handle it. Izick has been going on about the same shit for weeks. Slipperyslope needs an intervention. Instead, most people here simply talk around them and pretend shit doesn't stink. They're still here though. Listening and giving advice. Thats fucked up.

2) no. I'm not saying go to a bar and find a group of women and have them take you home and orgy you. I'm saying the same I did to midnights. You can even start with a group of guys after class or something. If you've got your stuff together and make it clear that you're available, a good group of people will either put you on the right track or actively introduce you to women and you never even have to deal with a bar.

 

[Vermillion]

1) I dont see that. I see people just giving out pats on the back and saying "you'll get it together bro!" when that person really needs someone to tell them that they got issues and that they need to handle it. Izick has been going on about the same shit for weeks. Slipperyslope needs an intervention. Instead, most people here simply talk around them and pretend shit doesn't stink. They're still here though. Listening and giving advice. Thats fucked up.

2) no. I'm not saying go to a bar and find a group of women and have them take you home and orgy you. I'm saying the same I did to midnights. You can even start with a group of guys after class or something. If you've got your stuff together and make it clear that you're available, a good group of people will either put you on the right track or actively introduce you to women and you never even have to deal with a bar.

1) Izick has been repeatedly told he has issues. People got angry and fed up and stopped giving a fuck. SlipperySlope has been told in both this topic and the Depression topic that he needs to work on himself before dating, by me and others. So I still don't know what you're talking about.

2) Well see, now you're mentioning a distaste of bars as well. People meet other people in different ways. Just let them. We've already discussed great places to meet women without randomly approaching them (school, neighbors, clubs - like hobby clubs, not the other kind). And people don't always randomly go up to girls either. Let people meet people how they want to. If you see someone look as if they have interest, wouldn't you go up? So now, switching the roles, why shouldn't someone with interest be the one to go up?

 

[Omegasquash]

I think this thread scares people like me who find it extremely hard to talk to girls. Too much over analyzing and games in this thread imo. It should be as simple as going up to a girl your interested in, saying hi, and let the rest flow. But it's not the simple. Everybody wants to play games.

Anyway. How can you tell if a girl likes you? I was on the train last week heading to work and there was this girl that kept staring at me. This NEVER really happens to me at all so it was weird. I was thinking she probably thinks im so damn ugly, lol. But she continued looking. As if trying to figure something out. And maby im looking into this too much but when i was getting off my stop it looked like she kind of hesitated to get up. Like she wasn't sure if she should. But she did anyway. She walked alll the way to the other train i was getting on too. Could be a coincidence and that she was heading in the same direction, which i know thats the case.

Im probably looking into this too much. Like said, that never happens to me. I got excited.

Spoiler

Any truth to no fapping gives you motivation to talk to girls?

Well, that's because the thread has turned from it's original intent.

Now, as for the girl that's looking at you, I don't know. Neither do you, so go initiate some conversation (if you see her again, that is)! Or, you could always just smile at her.

Truth: Smiling more actually helps your confidence.

 

[Jackben]

I think this thread scares people like me who find it extremely hard to talk to girls. Too much over analyzing and games in this thread imo. It should be as simple as going up to a girl your interested in, saying hi, and let the rest flow. But it's not the simple. Everybody wants to play games.

Read the OP. NOW.

That will give you a better idea of the true sentiment of this thread as opposed to the last two pages of silly shit on how PUA isn't manipulative or how getting into a relationship will fix all your problems.

And to answer your spoiler tagged bit: sometimes, YMMV, try it yourself and see.

 

[ClovingWestbrook]

I don't know, if you think you can have the same conversation with every woman as part of your "game", then maybe you don't have the right mindset to start dating.

This thread is so hilarious on so much stuff. No, dating a woman won't solve your problems. No, if you're shy and antisocial you might only trick a girl to have sex with you once with PUA but your true colors will be revealed. No, dating isn't like a videogame and it doesn't have checkpoints nor you can't use a guide.

If you have social problems, you've got more important stuff to do than dating. Fix yourself, then you can start considering it. And no, lying and being someone you're not isn't gonna fix yourself.

Why this is even a question or needs to be said is what is sad about this thread.

 

[Vermillion]

there is always risk. So what? You fall hard, you get up, you do better next time. May be you won't want to fall hard next time and thus stop being a dumbass.

I'm listening to the CBS live feed of the mass-murdering douchebag's trial, and they just said that they heard he might have just been through a break-up, which they said isn't the sole motivator, of course, but isn't atypical in such cases. Dating someone shouldn't be treated as a solution to your problems, because (as I said), it'll only make the fall that much worse.

Why this is even a question or needs to be said is what is sad about this thread.

It doesn't because no one has advised differently. I certainly haven't.

 

[ClovingWestbrook]

1) What we usually do here is we tell people to fix themselves first. We tell them how to build confidence. So besides a couple of posts, I don't know what you're talking about.

2) So you pick a group of girls you like at the same time and roll with that? And lowering her defenses... what? What defenses? Talking her up until you get what you want? I don't know how else someone asks anyone on a date besides talking to them in the hopes that they'll agree.

On another note:
Since we're on this subject, how do you guys think someone should get a one night stand with someone they don't know (or really care to see again)?
Though I would like to stress that this isn't the purpose of the topic at all, and not what we've been helping people to do. It's still "Dating" Age, after all.

How SHOULD one get a one night stand? They shouldn't TRY to get a one night stand. If it happens it happens. This is another example of the problem that DY, Dev, AM, myself, and others are pointing out.

 

[Vermillion]

How SHOULD one get a one night stand? They shouldn't TRY to get a one night stand. If it happens it happens. This is another example of the problem that DY, Dev, AM, myself, and others are pointing out.

Well actually, I just brought it up, so really you can't have been pointing it out. And that's where we disagree. People go out to get laid with no strings attached all the times. Probably even some of the people you've mentioned.

Sometimes people want a relationship, sometimes they just wanna fuck.

 

[Jackben]

What you are saying is accurate Anti-Monitor but there is a lot of positive information, words of wisdom, advice and support being provided as well.

The thread isn't just a big joke. Constructive criticism is better than criticism. Positive contributions are more than welcome.

 

[Etrian Oddity]

This thread has turned to complete shit and I'm outta here until it cleans up. Deuces.

 

[ClovingWestbrook]

Well actually, I just brought it up, so really you can't have been pointing it out. And that's where we disagree. People go out to get laid with no strings attached all the times. Probably even some of the people you've mentioned.

Sometimes people want a relationship, sometimes they just wanna fuck.

Yes but I don't know if someone who has a healthy view of relationships/sex/etc., wake up one day and say 'I'm going to find someone to fuck today, no strings attached'. If they are at a party, bar, club, super market, and find someone who they find attractive, strike up a conversation, and it leads somewhere, then yea, hoping it turns into sex isn't out of the norm. But to TRY to find an opportunity for a one night stand? No.

 

[Vermillion]

What you are saying is accurate Anti-Monitor but there is a lot of positive information, words of wisdom, advice and support being provided as well.

The thread isn't just a big joke. Constructive criticism is better than criticism. Positive contributions are more than welcome.

The thing that's irritating me right now is that up until a few pages ago, LMR and ASD hadn't even been fucking mentioned in this thread. A mod should find wherever the mention of PUA that started this happened and burn it and everything after it.

 

[SquiddyCracker]

Guys, remember to follow the D.E.N.N.I.S. system:

Demonstrate value
Engage physically
Nurture dependence
Neglect emotionally
Inspire hope
Separate entirely

An oldie but goodie.

 

[Jackben]

The thing that's irritating me right now is that up until a few pages ago, LMR and ASD hadn't even been fucking mentioned in this thread. A mod should find wherever the mention of PUA that started this happened and burn it and everything after it.

Exactly. I was just thinking about making and immediately abandoning a new thread called "NSA Sex & PUA Thread" so that all that bullshit could be purged from here.

It works for Gaming Age so why not OT?

 

[Vermillion]

Yes but I don't know if someone who has a healthy view of relationships/sex/etc., wake up one day and say 'I'm going to find someone to fuck today, no strings attached'. If they are at a party, bar, club, super market, and find someone who they find attractive, strike up a conversation, and it leads somewhere, then yea, hoping it turns into sex isn't out of the norm. But to TRY to find an opportunity for a one night stand? No.

I'm sure that bars and clubs are made for that shit, really. People either go to find "the one" (there have been many "ones," Neo) or they go to get laid.

I mean, and to drink, but it's not mutually exclusive. Haven't you ever seen a guy/girl tell their friend after a break up that they should just go out and have sex? People look for one-night stands all the time.

 

[SquiddyCracker]

Exactly. I was just thinking about making and immediately abandoning a new thread called "NSA Sex & PUA Thread" so that all that bullshit could be purged from here.

It works for Gaming Age so why not OT?

That's probably a good idea, I can write together some PUA stuff if you want to make that thread.

 

[ClovingWestbrook]

I'm sure that bars and clubs are made for that shit, really. People either go to find "the one" (there have been many "ones," Neo) or they go to get laid.

I mean, and to drink, but it's not mutually exclusive. Haven't you ever seen a guy/girl tell their friend after a break up that they should just go out and have sex? People look for one-night stands all the time.

Yea, and I have had friends that do just that, and some can pull it off because while they want to have sex, they don't enter the bar thinking 'omg, i need to find someone to have sex with tonight'. They are social, they are relaxing with their buds, watching the game, having a beer. If they see someone they find attractive, they will be social and initiate a conversation. That is different than saying 'God, I want to find someone to fuck tonight' and spending the next few hours trying to accomplish just that.

 

[Vermillion]

Yea, and I have had friends that do just that, and some can pull it off because while they want to have sex, they don't enter the bar thinking 'omg, i need to find someone to have sex with tonight'. They are social, they are relaxing with their buds, watching the game, having a beer. If they see someone they find attractive, they will be social and initiate a conversation. That is different than saying 'God, I want to find someone to fuck tonight' and spending the next few hours trying to accomplish just that.

You misunderstand me. I'm not talking about needing it or whatever. It's more like:

"gonna have sex tonight" > see someone attractive > talk > progressive physicality > sex

In case you're wondering, I got that from a friend. Well, the progressive physicality part was a bit more detailed, but whatevz.

 

[ClovingWestbrook]

You misunderstand me. I'm not talking about needing it or whatever. It's more like:

"gonna have sex tonight" > see someone attractive > talk > progressive physicality > sex

In case you're wondering, I got that from a friend. Well, the progressive physicality part was a bit more detailed, but whatevz.

But the very nature of the question of 'how do you find a one night stand' is what I am talking about. It's trying to find a template for something that doesn't have a one size fits all set of instructions.

 

[SquiddyCracker]

So guys, I was trying to amog it the other night in a 5 mixed set - 2 HB7s, 1 HB9, one alpha, and two betas.
Now, these two HB7s were throwing me IOIs all night (to the obvious annoyance of the betas lol) so I played them both to increase my value to the HB9. The problem was this resident alpha, who was clumsily trying to flirt with the HB9 - no way that's gonna happen jose!
As we both had the same target, I chose to go all destroyer on him and hollered at my friend, signalling that it was "A-K"-time!

He jumped in straight between the HB9 and gorilla, and started being annoying as fuck, which I used to disarm him and make him look like a big puppy. Eventually he got all pissed off and left, but then my wing man jumped in to game the HB9.

Not cool.

I left with teh HB7s (always good to have wing women) but the friend blew it with teh HB9 (I totally wouldn't) so I don't know what I should do with this buddy of mine - he let me down big time.

What should I do guys?

 

[Vermillion]

But the very nature of the question of 'how do you find a one night stand' is what I am talking about. It's trying to find a template for something that doesn't have a one size fits all set of instructions.

I was just asking about what people thought of it in parallel to their other opinions. You're the only one who responded, but your response is acceptable.

And although GAF finds it immoral, some people do lie in that arena. Don't worry, I can see how it's bad. But the last time my friend did it, the girl found out and texted him - she didn't really care, though. Solucky

 

[ClovingWestbrook]

So guys, I was trying to amog it the other night in a 5 mixed set - 2 HB7s, 1 HB9, one alpha, and two betas.
Now, these two HB7s were throwing me IOIs all night (to the obvious annoyance of the betas lol) so I played them both to increase my value to the HB9. The problem was this resident alpha, who was clumsily trying to flirt with the HB9 - no way that's gonna happen jose!
As we both had the same target, I chose to go all destroyer on him and hollered at my friend, signalling that it was "A-K"-time!

He jumped in straight between the HB9 and gorilla, and started being annoying as fuck, which I used to disarm him and make him look like a big puppy. Eventually he got all pissed off and left, but then my wing man jumped in to game the HB9.

Not cool.

What should I do guys?

nice post. i like the cut of your jib.

 

[Vermillion]

So guys, I was trying to amog it the other night in a 5 mixed set - 2 HB7s, 1 HB9, one alpha, and two betas.
Now, these two HB7s were throwing me IOIs all night (to the obvious annoyance of the betas lol) so I played them both to increase my value to the HB9. The problem was this resident alpha, who was clumsily trying to flirt with the HB9 - no way that's gonna happen jose!
As we both had the same target, I chose to go all destroyer on him and hollered at my friend, signalling that it was "A-K"-time!

He jumped in straight between the HB9 and gorilla, and started being annoying as fuck, which I used to disarm him and make him look like a big puppy. Eventually he got all pissed off and left, but then my wing man jumped in to game the HB9.

Not cool.

What should I do guys?

Format HB#? Does HB = hot bitch?
I can tell you that I don't think anyone does this. Not in this thread anyways.

You're scaring me.

 

[NeOak]

So guys, I was trying to amog it the other night in a 5 mixed set - 2 HB7s, 1 HB9, one alpha, and two betas.
Now, these two HB7s were throwing me IOIs all night (to the obvious annoyance of the betas lol) so I played them both to increase my value to the HB9. The problem was this resident alpha, who was clumsily trying to flirt with the HB9 - no way that's gonna happen jose!
As we both had the same target, I chose to go all destroyer on him and hollered at my friend, signalling that it was "A-K"-time!

He jumped in straight between the HB9 and gorilla, and started being annoying as fuck, which I used to disarm him and make him look like a big puppy. Eventually he got all pissed off and left, but then my wing man jumped in to game the HB9.

Not cool.

I left with teh HB7s (always good to have wing women) but the friend blew it with teh HB9 (I totally wouldn't) so I don't know what I should do with this buddy of mine - he let me down big time.

What should I do guys?

LOL