Seduction-age |OT| The only way to win is to play the game

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My first comment on picking up people is commenting on their ear wax. You can tell how awesome a girl is going to be because of her earwax.

When I'm looking at a guy, I usually compliment their nose hair. If they have a little hanging out of their nose, they usually are hung.


Once I make those connections, I might start off with a couple quick lines.

"Hey man, I bet you take a fist in the crotch like a champ."

or for the opposite sex

"Man, you must be fat, because it's getting heavy in here."

I'll add more later.

I like you.
 
Getting up the nerve to go and say hello is all it takes.

Are you ignoring most of all the PUA stuff pandered towards young men?

Because you always keep going back to the same "its building confidence... that's what its about" thing and that just dismisses the heaping pile of garbage that comes with it.
Whoa, freeze. Have you ever heard the song? It's about a long term friendship. Come on now, I'm not talking about someone you just met.

That's like... a rare situation compared to all the lonely mofos that start crushing on their coworkers and associates simply because they don't get out enough. Some people just want to feel wanted and that bond so bad that they forget that there are lines better off not crossing.
 
Are you ignoring most of all the PUA stuff pandered towards young men?

Because you always keep going back to the same "its building confidence... that's what its about" thing and that just dismisses the heaping pile of garbage that comes with it.

Different interpretations dude. I'm not saying there isn't a lot of bullshit out there, but I don't have this deep seeded hatred for pickup like you do either. It is what you make of it.
 
Hate women? He said "make them enemies".

Look at the post you're latching onto:

Better to have a woman as an enemy than be stuck in the friend zone. :P

The post he was responding to:

It is not about their supposed qualities, but I am not surprised that you would interpret my comments in a light that is too favorable to women, the enemy.

Does that sound like Antitype was literally calling women "enemies" or using chizmiz's baseless accusations of sexism to poke fun at white knights?

DY said:
and before that, you're going around calling people challenges like they're stepping stones, tests, or events in life

what is that? like.... what is the point of that kind of thinking? can you start with that for me? because it just comes across as immediately toxic

Walk me through this. By calling meeting women challenges, how does this strip them of their humanness.

So he goes up to a girl, and he says "Hi, I thought you were cute and wanted to meet you" because he heard that said once on a Simple Pickup video. She is no longer a human being now?
 
Look, fools (I say that endearingly), there are but three thing a guy needs to know if he wants a relationship:

One, don't be afraid to talk to her. She's only human.
Two, it's fine to fail
Three, be yourself (or at least the best version of yourself) lying or making changes to who you are isn't healthy for a relationship

Ladies, replace the "her" with "him" and the "she" with "he."

Again: "Rule #1: There are no rules."
 
That's like... a rare situation compared to all the lonely mofos that start crushing on their coworkers and associates simply because they don't get out enough. Some people just want to feel wanted and that bond so bad that they forget that there are lines better off not crossing.

I didn't say it was common, I was just mentioning it. Besides the girl/boy next door stories are adorable.
 
I have many female friends. They're people I have no sexual tension with, at all.

Having a hostile relationship with somebody is easy. You ignore them, or avoid them, yada yada.

Having a friend that you want to have sex with is hard. You can't just ignore or avoid them, cause you like their company. You genuinely want to be around them. You want to move things forward, but you can't cause either they're not attracted to you in that way, or they have a boyfriend, or whatever. That's an ongoing frustration that's a far bigger pain in the ass.

Some of my best friends are ugly girls too/joking.
I don't know what you mean by a hostile relationship, though.

As far as being friend-zoned, while I know this zone all too well - my picture appears next to the definition -, it's really a sign of emotional immaturity to an extent (yes, I realize I just called myself emotionally immature). Yeah it can be frustrating, but you shouldn't blame a female/male friend because she/he isn't attracted to you, has a boyfriend/girlfriend or doesn't want to be your personal fuck toy or whatever.

The problem is, in a perfect rational world, people who have friends of the opposite sex should be able to talk about that kind of stuff maturely. In certain cases, it can be difficult not to become emotionally attached to a long-term friend, long-term being a key word, of the opposite sex and not have a desire to take it further.

The issue seems to be, at least in my case, is that if you express those feelings to a long-term friend it only makes things awkward and can negatively impact any friendship that you hope to retain after the fact. On the flip side I think, unless a friend of the opposite sex is completely oblivious, they should be able to maturely engage a friend and acknowledge that they understand the other person has feelings for them and that they understand, but that they simply want to remain friends. The reality is whenever one or both of the parties tries to address the friend-zone issue, the friendship suffers as a result.

tl:dr version: If you are a dude and that female friend you have the hots for doesn't look at the relationship that way, don't blame her and be bitter. Be a big enough person to just cherish that friendship.
 
Are you ignoring most of all the PUA stuff pandered towards young men?

Because you always keep going back to the same "its building confidence... that's what its about" thing and that just dismisses the heaping pile of garbage that comes with it.
I think it comes down to the individual. For some people, that heaping pile of garbage may just be training wheels that they'll eventually no longer need.

I never got really immersed in the PUA scene, but reading some of the stuff actually had a positive effect on how I approach not only women but people in general.

Maybe I'm just not following this conversation properly, but I don't think it's fair to condemn PUA in its entirety, even if the bulk of it is tripe.
 
What the fuck.

Wait.

This is serious.

People actually do research and shit and make step by step instructions and philisophies to seducing people? Goddamn.
 
I always try to hook up with 175's by throwing out that I'm an ace gear. Not too keen on the bean queens, but I love the going after an abigail or smurf. I usually start off by asking a cake boy if he wants me to put icing on the cake. Sometimes I get shot down, which is abareskin, but once I throw out that I'm a switch and not some vanilla, they're ready to hammer hammer hammer.

My first comment on picking up people is commenting on their ear wax. You can tell how awesome a girl is going to be because of her earwax.

I've heard the earwax thing.
 
Does that sound like Antitype was literally calling women "enemies" or using chizmiz's baseless accusations of sexism to poke fun at white knights?

He was "literally" calling them enemies, feel free to look up the meaning of literal. He also uses a borderline military vocabulary in general.

As for "white knights", well, that's the vocabulary of sexist douchebags who buy into the whole pile of shit that is how alpha males get all the women by acting mean and tough.

You know what's baseless? Your own appreciation of my accusations, as it is just a characterization and not a demonstration.

Go flex your biceps elsewhere, nobody here is saying that talking to women is a problem in itself.
 
Does that sound like Antitype was literally calling women "enemies" or using chizmiz's baseless accusations of sexism to poke fun at white knights?
I didn't say "literally". Never did.

I just think that defending that particular line of thinking, one that others have called out and spoken about before, is ridiculous. If you want someone to hold the torch for PUA tech and the like, it ain't him.
Walk me through this. By calling meeting women challenges, how does this strip them of their humanness.

So he goes up to a girl, and he says "Hi, I thought you were cute and wanted to meet you" because he heard that said once on a Simple Pickup video. She is no longer a human being now?
Dude, wut?

Calling every a woman a challenge to be conquered - which is what a LOT of PUA infers- is different than calling meeting women a challenge.
 
I always try to hook up with 175's by throwing out that I'm an ace gear. Not too keen on the bean queens, but I love the going after an abigail or smurf. I usually start off by asking a cake boy if he wants me to put icing on the cake. Sometimes I get shot down, with is abareskin, but once I throw out that I'm a switch and not some vanilla, they're ready to hammer hammer hammer.



I've heard the earwax thing.

Oh shit I thought I was the only one that went after 175's! I love Twinkies and Chicken though. You don't like Smurf's they are the best.
 
I always try to hook up with 175's by throwing out that I'm an ace gear. Not too keen on the bean queens, but I love the going after an abigail or smurf. I usually start off by asking a cake boy if he wants me to put icing on the cake. Sometimes I get shot down, which is abareskin, but once I throw out that I'm a switch and not some vanilla, they're ready to behuhuhu the rub hive.
Fixed.
 
I always try to hook up with 175's by throwing out that I'm an ace gear. Not too keen on the bean queens, but I love the going after an abigail or smurf. I usually start off by asking a cake boy if he wants me to put icing on the cake. Sometimes I get shot down, which is abareskin, but once I throw out that I'm a switch and not some vanilla, they're ready to hammer hammer hammer.



I've heard the earwax thing.

I tried getting with an absolute code, but he was into baby butches. Shame we could of been U-Hauls buddies :(
 
Does it attract the kind of women that would mesh with you personally, though. I can understand attracting very outgoing types, but would this stuff on introverts or girls not into partying and the like?
 
Does it attract the kind of women that would mesh with you personally, though. I can understand attracting very outgoing types, but would this stuff on introverts or girls not into partying and the like?

Doubtful, really. Depends on what you mean. If it's the negging, language or anything like that, probably not. If it's just talking to people... huh. Okay, now I'm confused. If you treat them like a person, it works, if you feel the need to insult them or whatever, it won't.
 
Lol between this and the 9/11 INFOWARZ thread, I don't know what's worse.

Here's how to do it. Grow some balls, go up to the girl and say hi. She won't bite. You don't need a lame-ass series of preprogrammed code.
 
I always approach in a pig mask and nothing else. I always get bangin uranus that way.



I heard someone in here goes venom mask only....


Here's a serious question though. When you go out to pick up these peeps, do you guys usually tuck to the left or right? I'm finding penis placement is essentially the key to a perfect pick up.
 
Does it attract the kind of women that would mesh with you personally, though. I can understand attracting very outgoing types, but would this stuff on introverts or girls not into partying and the like?
The heart of PUA stuff is self-improvement. Being confident and fun will make you a more likeable person in all facets of your life, not just romance. As long as you don't stare too long into the abyss of bullshit jargon and varying degrees of sexism, it'll probably do you some good if you're not comfortable with putting yourself out there.
Here's a serious question though. When you go out to pick up these peeps, do you guys usually tuck to the left or right? I'm finding penis placement is essentially the key to a perfect pick up.
Man you got to tape that shit to your taint, so it tickles your anus. Your lack of bulge will make you stand out in the crowd, and unwrapping it will remind her of Christmas.
 
The coded language just seems very cultish. I mean this stuff has been around for ages. Isn't negging just teasing. Who doesn't tease as a part of flirting?
 
I think it comes down to the individual. For some people, that heaping pile of garbage may just be training wheels that they'll eventually no longer need.

I never got really immersed in the PUA scene, but reading some of the stuff actually had a positive effect on how I approach not only women but people in general.

Maybe I'm just not following this conversation properly, but I don't think it's fair to condemn PUA in its entirety, even if the bulk of it is tripe.

just google "pua routines" and lol

fuck bettering the person in the mirror. this is so easy!
 
chizmiz, you're a parody.

Calling every a woman a challenge to be conquered - which is what a LOT of PUA infers- is different than calling meeting women a challenge

You mean imply? You're the one doing the inferring, which is the problem.

When Antitype is talking about treating "the game" as a challenge, he is talking about meeting woman. Sometimes that means talking to her in order to possibly build a relationship. And yeah, sometimes that means talking to a girl just because you're attracted to her and want to have sex with her.

Neither strips the girl of her humanity. That's meaningless pablum.
 
Do you PUAssies really have a hard time meeting women? Can't just say, "How are you tonight?" and start a convo? LOL you need to look in a mirror like Stewart Smalley and remind yourself how awesome you are? Ha ha!
 
The coded language just seems very cultish. I mean this stuff has been around for ages. Isn't negging just teasing. Who doesn't tease as a part of flirting?

Read this as something else, and preferred it

This PUA stuff just doesn't seem genuine. I could never do these moves and feel like anything but a fraud
 
Here's how to do it. Grow some balls, go up to the girl and say hi. She won't bite. You don't need a lame-ass series of preprogrammed code.
No one is saying it is needed. And no one is using it as advice in dating-age either. If a guy for some reason wants to be more consistent in his success though, there's an overwhelming amount of evidence that say that this can help with that. We always tell people with trouble in dating-age to work on themselves first and success will come to them without this stuff. The unfortunate truth however, is that with these tricks, working on yourself isn't really necessary (as far as approaching and picking up women is concerned at least). And that's primarily why we don't encourage it, least of all to beginners or those with deeper issues.
 
You mean imply? You're the one doing the inferring, which is the problem.

When Antitype is talking about treating "the game" as a challenge, he is talking about meeting woman. Sometimes that means talking to her in order to possibly build a relationship. And yeah, sometimes that means talking to a girl just because you're attracted to her and want to have sex with her.

Neither strips the girl of her humanity. That's meaningless pablum.

why are we assigning meaningless titles to simple social interaction...

and i'm not inferring anything. tons of PUA shit refers to women as marks at a range. this dude just went on about how women are all interchangeable and whatnot

but lets keep backing him. i think we could have a middle ground somewhere, because you've never openly disagreed about how i was goin ham while i was livejournaling my shit a few years back, but this guy? come the fuck on
Dude step off it, we get it, you hate it geez.

And as a side note - you can read everything you want but it isn't going to mean shit if you aren't out there approaching.

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