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CFA response to anti-gay alleg. "Guilty as charged." Do NOT gloat about eating at CFA

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Just goes to show that you can't fool the internet.

Chick-fil-a needs to just stop trying to make it better. If they are willing to hold their position then they need to be prepared to take their lumps. They're not going to be able to PR their way out of it with all of the scrutiny they brought upon themselves.

Exactly.

Use the platform of a company and the Internet to take a moral stance and expect to be judged by a wider audience on that stance.

The more you have to backpeddle, or outright lie, the shakier your position looked in the first place. They are reaping what they sowed.
 
Can't help but notice the guys defending Chick-Fil-A's beliefs are quietly pretending not to notice the lying.

Funny how lying is a GREAT SIN except when it helps your political/religious cause.

Pretty much.

Remember the Dover zealots perjuring during the trial to save their own skin?
 
I must say the Chick-Fil-A Facebook page is extremely entertaining. Trolling, hate, arguments, personal attacks... you name it, it's there.
 
For all the harping about "Christian Values" and such, they're still not above the same sleazy PR tactics so many other companies employ. A lot of folks were talking about how much respect they had for CFA being open and honest about their position, where are those folks now?

This is what I was wondering too... CFA is being fucking embarrassing with this.


Sounds like a meme in the making. 'Check your info... John 3:16' You can use it in any debate for any reason.


Hehe, I like this idea :)
 
LOL @ them lying about the muppet situation. Lame as hell.

After we get Chick-A-Fila closed down, I want a sweatshop boycott next. Nudity should be the norm. Wang out on the subway, holla!
 
Yeah, basically the company hasn't done anything illegal. Everyone has right to boycott them but denying them right to put up a store is bit too far imo.

Yeah, but if corporations have right, surely incorporated cities do too? Or does every business that wants to open up just get to whereever they want?
 
Yeah, basically the company hasn't done anything illegal. Everyone has right to boycott them but denying them right to put up a store is bit too far imo.

I agree as well. I don't agree with the owner's opinion on this specific subject, but freedom of speech is a very important aspect to uphold.
 
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Some intelligent posters in this thread should tell Mayor Menino that "they're just chicken sandwiches, bro! Get off your high horse."
 
I mean I understand the theory behind not supporting a business because you don't agree with this kind of stuff. However, if it is something I truly love, I'm not going to deny myself of it, because of some self-righteous virtue of "supporting the wrong cause". Some people won't go to Chick-Fil-A because of this, but as much as some of you won't admit it, some people WILL choose to go there because they support the cause.

Creepy.
 
http://www.theonion.com/articles/chickfila-debuts-new-homophobic-sandwich,28888/

I'm sure this has been posted.

According to sources, the Queer-Hatin’ Cordon Bleu is merely the first of Chick-fil-A’s new family values menu which is set to include the AIDS Is God’s Curse chicken nugget combo and the Fags Caused 9/11 strawberry fruit smoothie

WTF is wrong with Chick Fil A? Why do religious people have to be so prideful, they need to voice their opinions? You would think he would know better.
 
Yeah, basically the company hasn't done anything illegal. Everyone has right to boycott them but denying them right to put up a store is bit too far imo.

If the Boston government feels it's in the best interest of the Boston population to not allow the store, they have a right to deny them the store.

Chick-Fil-A has no "right" to put up a store in Boston. Boston has a right to deny CFA a store.
 
Yeah, basically the company hasn't done anything illegal. Everyone has right to boycott them but denying them right to put up a store is bit too far imo.

I'm not a legal expert or anything, but it does look to me like a violation of freedom of speech. You might say that building a restaurant somewhere is not a speech act, which is true, but the rejection is in retaliation for a speech act. I dunno, I just really don't like to see this.
 
If the Boston government feels it's in the best interest of the Boston population to not allow the store, they have a right to deny them the store.

Chick-Fil-A has no "right" to put up a store in Boston. Boston has a right to deny CFA a store.
Idiotic. Where do you draw the line? Are everybody who donates to these organizations free game to whims of Boston gov.?
 
Idiotic. Where do you draw the line? Are everybody who donates to these organizations free game to whims of Boston gov.?

Aaaaaaand all that you're putting forward is game playing. No, you can't outright deny them a place, but you can lobby against them, or send money to organizations that will try to take their right away.

At least Menino has the balls to actively do something about it.
 
I wish more political leaders would stand up this way. It's way better, way more respectful than the creepy way Chick-Fil-A is trying to weasel their way out of this by deleting posts and making stupid statements like the, for CFA embarrassing Jim Henson situation. Again, where are the people who said they respected CFA for being so honest about their position? Shouldn't they be criticizing the company now too?

I support the sentiment of the mayor, but am
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at his "no discrimination in boston" declaration

The fact that he says there is no place for discrimination in Boston doesn't mean there isn't any discrimination to be found in Boston, that's not what he's saying, or isn't that what you mean?
 
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Some intelligent posters in this thread should tell Mayor Menino that "they're just chicken sandwiches, bro! Get off your high horse."

Chicago joining Boston

Ald.Proco "Joe" Moreno announced this week that he will block Chick-fil-A's effort to build its second Chicago store, which would be in the Logan Square neighborhood, following company President Dan Cathy's remarks last week that he was "guilty as charged" for supporting the biblical definition of marriage as between a man and woman.

"If you are discriminating against a segment of the community, I don't want you in the 1st Ward," Moreno told the Tribune on Tuesday.

Moreno stated his position in strong terms, referring to Cathy's "bigoted, homophobic comments" in a proposed opinion page piece that an aide also sent to Tribune reporters. "Because of this man's ignorance, I will now be denying Chick-fil-A's permit to open a restaurant in the 1st Ward."

The alderman has the ideological support of Mayor Rahm Emanuel.

"Chick-fil-A values are not Chicago values," the mayor said in a statement when asked about Moreno's decision. "They disrespect our fellow neighbors and residents. This would be a bad investment, since it would be empty."

Moreno is relying on a rarely violated Chicago tradition known as aldermanic privilege, which dictates that City Council members defer to the opinion of the ward alderman on local issues. Last year Moreno wielded that weapon to block plans for a Wal-Mart in his ward, saying he had issues with the property owner and that Wal-Mart was not "a perfect fit for the area."

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The alderman, serving his first full term, dismissed any First Amendment concerns.

"You have the right to say what you want to say, but zoning is not a right,"
Full article here
Good for them.

Is it legal to deny them right to put up store in a city? I find this gond of blocking very odd.
Is it legal for corporations to write a few checks, and then get the zoning permit they want, or the local zoning laws changed?

All across the country, zoning issues at the local level have always been somewhat shady. In this particular instance I have zero sympathy for Chick-Fil-A, ZERO.

It the citizens don't like how Mr. Moreno is handling zoning issues he can be voted out.
 
Idiotic. Where do you draw the line? Are everybody who donates to these organizations free game to whims of Boston gov.?
I think it's not necessary to know exactly where the line is in order to determine that a company vocally promoting bigotry and using its profits to actively fund bigotry is clearly over the line.
 
From reading that letter, it looks more like CFA is being denied the spot they wanted (across from city hall), not simply restricted from opening in Boston. I could be wrong. Could someone clarify?
I wish more political leaders would stand up this way. It's way better, way more respectful than the creepy way Chick-Fil-A is trying to weasel their way out of this by deleting posts and making stupid statements like the, for CFA embarrassing Jim Henson situation. Again, where are the people who said they respected CFA for being so honest about their position? Shouldn't they be criticizing the company now too?



The fact that he says there is no place for discrimination in Boston doesn't mean there isn't any discrimination to be found in Boston, that's not what he's saying, or isn't that what you mean?

My guess is that they've either been banned, or were simply drive-by posts without a real vested interest in the debate.
 
The fact that he says there is no place for discrimination in Boston doesn't mean there isn't any discrimination to be found in Boston, that's not what he's saying, or isn't that what you mean?

I mean i just found it humorous given boston's issues with race
 
I think it's not necessary to know exactly where the line is in order to determine that a company vocally promoting bigotry and using its profits to actively fund bigotry is clearly over the line.
How about making illegal for them to donate money to these organizations? Long as they don't deny service from anyone I don't think denying business from them is right. But that's just me. I am disgusted by their actions but long as nothing illegal has been done they shouldn't get any penalties. Only penalty they deserve is people boycoting them and losing partners who don't share their hateful views.
 
Is this a real corporation? I pity the PR department over there as they must be up to their necks and getting axed off daily.
 
Bible says otherwise. Weird that CFA doesn't know that, but I do.

Matthew 15:11

"It's not what goes into your mouth that defiles you; you are defiled by the words that come out of your mouth."

Haha!

Have to say it made me smile to see JGS banned after years of anti-gay trolling. Tastes better than anything from CFA.
 
It just great to see this shit called out. I mean just 10 years ago this would have never happened. It gives me hope that other positive social changes might not take as long as I thought they would.

Kudos to Boston and Chicago.
 
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