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Did you talk like this to the police? Because you may have been arrested for being a stalker, but may have been deported for being insufferable.

"I gave my testimony in rhyme
told them cops i did no crimes
loved that womyn but she was crazy
call my lawyer who said plead guilty
today morning im starting over
emailed her twice despite restraining order
you cant stand my real talk, i can't go on living
post me back my crown of sonnets, expedited shipping
"
 
"I gave my testimony in rhyme
told them cops i did no crimes
loved that womyn but she was crazy
call my lawyer who said plead guilty
today morning im starting over
emailed her twice despite restraining order
you cant stand my real talk, i can't go on living
post me back my crown of sonnets, expedited shipping
"

*clap clap clap clap*
 
"I gave my testimony in rhyme
told them cops i did no crimes
loved that womyn but she was crazy
call my lawyer who said plead guilty
today morning im starting over
emailed her twice despite restraining order
you cant stand my real talk, i can't go on living
post me back my crown of sonnets, expedited shipping
"

I like this, lets make a musical.
 
I'm well aware of this. My own attorney wanted the case over and done with. But I should have never agreed to a join submission, especially when the crown strong armed him. And after discussing with the police, what should and shouldn't be said in the conviction. They crown went ahead and charged me for everything.

I said nothing that day In court. I listened to my lawyer. And than regretted it. And just wanted to go home.

Truth is, I wish I could prove how unjust my trial was. How no evidence, no rightful arrest. How absolutely nothing. Except her phone-call and her testimony. Took my whole life away. I deserved the chance to continue to go to school. To finish my year. I deserved a to be allowed to leave her alone, after the police was involved. But you put someone in jail. And they can't think straight or get themselves out.

Being threatened by the police, who thought I would beat the case in a retrial didn't help.

But there was evidence. You laid it right here for us. You called her multiple times and emailed her 15 times after she said for you to stop contacting her and this went on over the course of a month. That is called harassment and someone could fear for their safety over it. The evidence is all there man. Why don't you want to accept what you did was wrong and learn from it?
 
I've lost count of how many girls I've seen on the news here in Brazil who were stabbed by that harmless ex who just happens to be a little excentric. Not funny. Maybe it's a SA thing.

BTW, guy was deported to Uruguay and immediately flew to Vienna, am I getting that right? Uruguay was a pretty decent country last time I checked, especially when the OP doesn't seem to have any definite plans for the immediate future.
 
"I gave my testimony in rhyme
told them cops i did no crimes
loved that womyn but she was crazy
call my lawyer who said plead guilty
today morning im starting over
emailed her twice despite restraining order
you cant stand my real talk, i can't go on living
post me back my crown of sonnets, expedited shipping
"

Ahahaha OMG.
 
I'm well aware of this. My own attorney wanted the case over and done with. But I should have never agreed to a join submission, especially when the crown strong armed him. And after discussing with the police, what should and shouldn't be said in the conviction. They crown went ahead and charged me for everything.

I said nothing that day In court. I listened to my lawyer. And than regretted it. And just wanted to go home.

Truth is, I wish I could prove how unjust my trial was. How no evidence, no rightful arrest. How absolutely nothing. Except her phone-call and her testimony. Took my whole life away. I deserved the chance to continue to go to school. To finish my year. I deserved a to be allowed to leave her alone, after the police was involved. But you put someone in jail. And they can't think straight or get themselves out.

Being threatened by the police, who thought I would beat the case in a retrial didn't help. So I was in jail and that made me give up.

If anything you should be mad at the lawyer.
 
But there was evidence. You laid it right here for us. You called her multiple times and emailed her 15 times after she said for you to stop contacting her and this went on over the course of a month. The evidence is all there man. Why don't you want to accept what you did was wrong and learn from it?

Yeah but that wasn't what I was sentenced for. That was the truth. THat never got out. That's not what the judge heard.

And that's what I hate. That's what I got, but in no way deserved.
 
"I gave my testimony in rhyme
told them cops i did no crimes
loved that womyn but she was crazy
call my lawyer who said plead guilty
today morning im starting over
emailed her twice despite restraining order
you cant stand my real talk, i can't go on living
post me back my crown of sonnets, expedited shipping
"
Oh man, nailed it.

I request a "beat off" (beat down?) between your good self and the OP.
 
"I gave my testimony in rhyme
told them cops i did no crimes
loved that womyn but she was crazy
call my lawyer who said plead guilty
today morning im starting over
emailed her twice despite restraining order
you cant stand my real talk, i can't go on living
post me back my crown of sonnets, expedited shipping
"

*snaps fingers repeatedly*
 
Like I said, by your wording, I'm thinking that's what the OP got out of it.
Ah gotcha. What I meant was they were not together at the time. It sounds like they dated for three months and then he stalked her for another month before all this went down.

I hope he doesn't get banned though. Guy would probably think it's because he's heartbroken.
 
"I gave my testimony in rhyme
told them cops i did no crimes
loved that womyn but she was crazy
call my lawyer who said plead guilty
today morning im starting over
emailed her twice despite restraining order
you cant stand my real talk, i can't go on living
post me back my crown of sonnets, expedited shipping
"

I love you a little bit right now.

Yeah but that wasn't what I was sentenced for. That was the truth. THat never got out. That's not what the judge heard.

And that's what I hate. That's what I got, but in way deserved.

So your gripe is that they didn't deport you for the crime you actually committed?
 
I've lost count of how many girls I've seen on the news here in Brazil who were stabbed by that harmless ex who just happens to be a little excentric. Not funny. Maybe it's a SA thing.

BTW, guy was deported to Uruguay and immediately flew to Vienna, am I getting that right? Uruguay was a pretty decent country last time I checked, especially when the OP doesn't seem to have any definite plans for the immediate future.

It was nice I stayed in uruguay 2 and half months. I actually also met, and dated a beautiful woman from there as well. It's my home country.

In in vienna for study reasons only. But yeah, i'm seeking help. For truama.
 
Yeah but that wasn't what I was sentenced for. That was the truth. THat never got out. That's not what the judge heard.

And that's what I hate. That's what I got, but in way deserved.

Nope. Im done. Your sentence structure/beat offs(?) makes me want to punch my laptop screen.

It was good while lasted, fun seeing the thread do a total 180. Im going to bed. my sympathies for your english.
 
Igby pls.
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Maybe it's just because I can't go to Wacken with my family, but the stuff here really has the foundation of a great song.

Very sweet singing in the beginning, then switching to fast paced, pumped up, bouncing around music á la SOAD's Chop Suey.

The song "A Muslim Parent"

Where do I begin
To tell the story of how poisonous love can be
I was her boyfriend not too long ago
but she went on and got rid of me
With lies and the help
Of the authori-TYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

AUTHORITY

AUTHORITY

The album title: The Law: A Man Against A Woman

As an album cover a stabbed dictionary with a trail of blood and droplets forming crude hearts.
 
It was nice I stayed in uruguay 2 and half months. I actually also met, and dated a beautiful woman from there as well. It's my home country.

In in vienna for study reasons only. But yeah, i'm seeking help. For truama.

Wait, okay, so this all happened at least 2 1/2 months ago? Yep. Stalker. let it go man.
 
It was nice I stayed in uruguay 2 and half months. I actually also met, and dated a beautiful woman from there as well. It's my home country.

In in vienna for study reasons only. But yeah, i'm seeking help. For truama.

Uh wait so you're telling us events that happened 2+ months ago, and you've dated a girl in the meantime? If so, why couldn't you just have written a massive, edited, spell-checked OP that had all these details instead of piece mealing us your verse bit by bit? Why the delayed pity party then?
 
Uh wait so you're telling us events that happened 2+ months ago, and you've dated a girl in the meantime? If so, why couldn't you just have written a massive, edited, spell-checked OP that had all these details instead of piece mealing us your verse bit by bit? Why the delayed pity party then?

Nope. Im done. Your sentence structure/beat offs(?) makes me want to punch my laptop screen.



It was good while lasted, fun seeing the thread do a total 180. Im going to bed. my sympathies for your english.
He's also done some things that he's not proud of. He murdered the English language.
This thread is cathartic for grammar nazis. I am literally crying from laughter.
 
Wait, okay, so this all happened at least 2 1/2 months ago? Yep. Stalker. let it go man.

4 months ago now.

I just wanted to be heard. Trust me, I don't care that i'm called a creep. Before all of this. I was far from a loser. I was a really confident and good guy.

But I loved her, and I wanted to merry her. I in return I got this shit. Now i feel like i'll never be anything again. And I hate her, and I've become a complete recluse.

There's more to the story. But I can't lay it all down. I actually think I put the worse of it first. Describing little of what it was that actually kept us together.

I'm 23, i'm somewhere I don't want to be. With psychological damage, brought on from her and the police. I just wanted to be heard. This is my art, my shit poetry, my word.
 
Yeah but that wasn't what I was sentenced for. That was the truth. THat never got out. That's not what the judge heard.

And that's what I hate. That's what I got, but in no way deserved.

So what did you get sentenced for exactly?

I'm no lawyer so this may be all bullshit, but assuming a judge did sentence you for the things you have presented rather than those(Alleged) lies wouldn't the result still be more or less the same?

And please stop saying you wanted to marry someone you only knew for 4 months before it all went downhill, it doesn't help your case and just makes you look worse.
 
No pleading guilty and to sentence to leave the country. Lead to the deportation.

She said to the authorities you harassed/threatened her and you yourself admit to at least harassing her and thinking you have the right to harass her. Putting you in jail while deciding the case isn't surprising. Can't blame the authorites/system for the result if you plead guilty.

Maybe she's a bad person and she lied, but her right not to have to "fight" over your broken heart is just as big as your right to "fight" for your broken heart. You shouldn't be so weak minded that you are a slave to your emotions, you shouldn't have been so weak minded that you didn't want to fight for your rights in court, you shouldn't have been so selfish and act without consideration for your ex-gfs feelings and you shouldn't have been such an idiot not to back down after she kept warning you off.

On the bright side you can take the lessons on board, you're only 23 so you've still got enough time to maybe one day become a man.
 
So what did you get sentenced for exactly?

I'm no lawyer so this may be all bullshit, but assuming a judge did sentence you for the things you have presented rather than those(Alleged) lies wouldn't the result still be more or less the same?

The police had one goal. To get me out of the country. Because she requested it.

No, If I pleed guilty another way. Just served jail time, instead of agreeing to go home to Uruguay. things would have been different. Or I should have gotten a peace bond.
 
4 months ago now.

I just wanted to be heard. Trust me, I don't care that i'm called a creep. Before all of this. I was far from a loser. I was a really confident and good guy.

But I loved her, and I wanted to merry her. I in return I got this shit. Now i feel like i'll never be anything again. And I hate her, and I've become a complete recluse.

There's more to the story. But I can't lay it all down. I actually think I put the worse of it first. Describing little of what it was that actually kept us together.

I'm 23, i'm somewhere I don't want to be. With psychological damage, brought on from her and the police. I just wanted to be heard. This is my art, my shit poetry, my word.

Oh, man. Okay...."good guys" don't stalk their exes and think they have a right to a relationship. You are not Edward, this is not twilight. She obviously didn't want to marry you, after four months....she obviously wanted to be left the alone. If you feel like you'll never be anything again, how come you were dating some other girl a couple months ago? You're 23, dude. 23. it's not a huge surprise that you don't want to be where you are. You're 23! your life is not over, look at this as a learning experience on how not to have relationships and move on. And quit with the beat poetry. Please.
 
I'm well aware of this. My own attorney wanted the case over and done with. But I should have never agreed to a join submission, especially when the crown strong armed him. And after discussing with the police, what should and shouldn't be said in the conviction. They crown went ahead and charged me for everything.

I said nothing that day In court. I listened to my lawyer. And than regretted it. And just wanted to go home.

Truth is, I wish I could prove how unjust my trial was. How no evidence, no rightful arrest. How absolutely nothing. Except her phone-call and her testimony. Took my whole life away. I deserved the chance to continue to go to school. To finish my year. I deserved a to be allowed to leave her alone, after the police was involved. But you put someone in jail. And they can't think straight or get themselves out.

Being threatened by the police, who thought I would beat the case in a retrial didn't help. So I was in jail and that made me give up.


Igby,

Your lawyer didn't fail. The situation surrounding your case made it a near indefensible position. Look at the opinion here on GAF. There might not be any room for any sympathy. I mean, after seeing what you have posted, I would have kept you from testifying. But, sounds like you would have none of that, and you would have wanted to, against your best interests.

Sounds like given the length of time you were in jail. deportation proceedings had been underway, and you were in a dentention facility pending your eventual expulsion from Canada. No one stays in jail that long for just a criminal complant before arraignment and bond.

You are leaving details out.

Per conversation with law school classmate, Canada issues an order telling you, you have 30 days to leave the country. People being deported for criminal reasons are held in jail, until they can be removed from the country.

But you said were jailed the whole time, went to trial and then kicked out?
 
This thread is cathartic for grammar nazis. I am literally crying from laughter.

I consider myself more of a grammar Buddha than a grammar Nazi. I am tolerant to a point, but after three times, I'm going to get mad.

I realize that the above sentence, and this one explaining it, probably have grammatical errors. This isn't a term paper, you aren't my professor, and I ain't even salty yo. Peace and love.
 
Igby,

Your lawyer didn't fail. The situation surrounding your case made it a near indefensible position. Look at the opinion here on GAF. There might not be any room for any sympathy. I mean, after seeing what you have posted, I would have kept you from testifying. But, sounds like you would have none of that, and you would have wanted to, against your best interests.

Sounds like given the length of time you were in jail. deportation proceedings had been underway, and you were in a dentention facility pending your eventual expulsion from Canada. No one stays in jail that long for just a criminal complant before arraignment and bond.

You are leaving details out.

Per conversation with law school classmate, Canada issues an order telling you, you have 30 days to leave the country. People being deported for criminal reasons are held in jail, until they can be removed from the country.

But you said were jailed the whole time, went to trial and then kicked out?
No I was on bail, following bail positions. Until my lawyer plead guilty for me. We bought a ticket. the ticket had a date for 3 weeks and 3 days after the sentence.

The judge didn't do a thing accept approve the crowns assigned days in jail. It was complete fucking bullshit. And I was in a maximum security prison. A student in university. ALL from. fights with his ex-girlfriend.

Sorry I misspelled "merry".
 
The judge didn't do a thing accept approve the crowns assigned days in jail. It was complete fucking bullshit.

Look guys! an easy to understand sentence!
Edit:
Attempting to understand OP's "beat poetry style" and then reading this makes me want to have little word babies with these sentences.
 
No I was on bail, following bail positions. Until my lawyer plead guilty for me. We bought a ticket. the ticket had a date for 3 weeks and 3 days after the sentence.

The judge didn't do a thing accept approve the crowns assigned days in jail. It was complete fucking bullshit.

OK. So you plead guilty to a criminal conviction, that's why you were held that time, and then you were deported.

What charges did you plead guilty to? I say you, because attorneys can't do anything without your permission=, in regards to pleas.
 
OK. So you plead guilty to a criminal conviction, that's why you were held that time, and then you were deported.

What charges did you plead guilty to? I say you, because attorneys can't do anything without your permission=, in regards to pleas.

Criminal Harassment 1 x.

The sentence was based around the plane ticket. He deserves this many days in jail, because his family bought a ticket on this date. That was the police's logic. And that was not explained to the judge either.

I know if I was still in canada I could sue the state for doing that to me. For keeping me in jail for not doing anything more than email a woman.
 
Criminal Harassment 1 x.

The sentence was based around the plane ticket. He deserves this many days in jail, because his family bought a ticket on this date.

I know if I was still in canada I could sue the state for doing that to me. For keeping me in jail for not doing anything more than email a woman.

Well.

You plead guilty to a criminal charge, convict.

What facility were you put in?
 
try to get some help, OP (for yourself I mean, not help in stalking the woman)

"I gave my testimony in rhyme
told them cops i did no crimes
loved that womyn but she was crazy
call my lawyer who said plead guilty
today morning im starting over
emailed her twice despite restraining order
you cant stand my real talk, i can't go on living
post me back my crown of sonnets, expedited shipping
"
bravo :lol :lol
 
Between the OP's "beat writing style", which is offensive to me as an English major who loves Beat poetry, the hyperbole, melodrama, and seemingly left out details, its near impossible to get a good, clear idea of what actually happened.

For example, "I was placed in a maximum security prison, it was bullshit" to "I was placed in the prison where all people who are awaiting deportation are kept" which seems less like the judge or "crown" had it out for you and more like standard procedure.
 
He did spell except "accept". But I can except that.

; P

ha! i didn't notice, since accept and approve have similar meanings in this context, i assumed he meant to only use one. so we get:

The judge didn't do a thing, accept the crowns assigned days in jail.

Or

The judge didn't do a thing, approve the crowns assigned days in jail.
 
West Detention center, which is where everyone awaiting deportation is kept.

That isn't maximum security.

Kingston is maximum security.

You went to a jail or remand centre, until you could get on the plane.

That seems in line and you got off lucky.

When you said criminal harassment, I was thinking harassment like in the US. Which is a misdemeanor.

Criminal harassment in Canada is a fucking felony. Than can land you 10 years in a pound me in the ass prison like Kingston.

Your lawyer did a good job. Saved you hard time and saved the citizens of Canada tax expenditures of housing you for a long time.

www.crcvc.ca/docs/crimharass.pdf
 
It's his beat poetry style, man.
More like bad poetry, amirite?

Sorry, I couldn't leave this pun opportunity unused.

This is what I don't believe in. Who are you to tell me or assume i'm going to do something worse?

I am a victim. I am allowed to be hurt. I am allowed to be attached. These are human qualities. I'm allowed to make mistakes.

She shouldn't be allowed to get away with lies. To hurt me in a fit of rage. To use the authority. To get what she wants. Which I know from after I got deported and correspondence she regrets.
So you feel entitled to all these things, whereas she "shouldn't be allowed to [...] get what she wants"? Seriously? That's an extremely selfish perspective on life. You know, sure, you may have feelings and longings. But others have them too. Learn to respect them.

What I want people to take away from my story. Is that love and the law shouldn't be allowed to mix like this.
You're generalizing too much. It's not love that got you deported. It was your actions (to stay in general terms).

I was thinking he sounds like someone with paranoid delusions. Amazing how every step of the way he did nothing wrong and his gf suddenly decides to ruin him, police, judicial system, government, his own attorney all join in on ruining this innocent man who has never done anything wrong. Just one day the entire country of Canada woke up today morning and decided to ruin this guy's life for "not being brown". Story definitely sounds like bullshit, or at the very least terribly incomplete.
Lost it at that part.

4 months ago now. But I loved her, and I wanted to merry her. I in return I got this shit. Now i feel like i'll never be anything again. And I hate her, and I've become a complete recluse.
You may have loved her, but obviously those sentiments weren't mutual (anymore?). That's where you should've stopped. You are not entitled to things solely because you want to have them.

And, as plenty of others have said: You are still young and if you feel like you're suffering from a trauma, then seek professional help. Until then, keep yourself busy. As an art student, I guess you're creative enough to come up with something.
 
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