Support NeoGAF

[SirIgbyCeaser]

That isn't maximum security.

Kingston is maximum security.

You went to a jail or remand centre, until you could get on the plane.

That seems in line and you got off lucky.

When you said criminal harassment, I was thinking harassment like in the US. Which is a misdemeanor.

Criminal harassment in Canada is a fucking felony. Than can land you 10 years in a pound me in the ass prison like Kingston.

Your lawyer did a good job. Saved you hard time and saved the citizens of Canada tax expenditures of housing you for a long time.

www.crcvc.ca/docs/crimharass.pdf

This is the bullshit we have in the world.

I could have hit her, and had less days in jail. Criminal harassment can be as low as a few days in jail to a full 10 years.

It's a range for a judge to put to do depending on what you did or did not do. I was not lucky. I got my life robbed. She could have put in jail longer.
I would have been in jail longer if I attempted to wait for trial.

How is it a felony to write the person you had a relationship with? See how bullshit that law is.

 

[Onemic]

That isn't maximum security.

Kingston is maximum security.

You went to a jail or remand centre, until you could get on the plane.

That seems in line and you got off lucky.

When you said criminal harassment, I was thinking harassment like in the US. Which is a misdemeanor.

Criminal harassment in Canada is a fucking felony. Than can land you 10 years in a pound me in the ass prison like Kingston.

Your lawyer did a good job. Saved you hard time and saved the citizens of Canada tax expenditures of housing you for a long time.

www.crcvc.ca/docs/crimharass.pdf

Wow, looks like he got off easy

This is where you, OP, begin to reflect on why what you did was wrong and what you could do to learn from your mistakes. Stop playing the victim. You'll never learn that way.

This is the bullshit we have in the world.

I could have hit her, and had less days in jail. Criminal harassment can be as low as a few days in jail to a full 10 years.

It's a range for a judge to put to do depending on what you did or did not do.

It is what it is. Learn from it and move on or else you'll just make the same mistake again and next time you might not be as lucky.

 

[ChiTownBuffalo]

This is the bullshit we have in the world.

I could have hit her, and had less days in jail. Criminal harassment can be as low as a few days in jail to a full 10 years.

It's a range for a judge to put to do depending on what you did or did not do.

Dude, you lawyer was right to plea you out.

"I could have hit her and had less days in jail?"

Its not a misdemeanor. It is a felony.

If I was the Crown's attorney, "Your Honor, the defendant clearly displays disregard to the seriousness of the charges levelled against him, and why the Commonwealth feels such statues are in place for the health and welfare of its subjects."

You need to not be in relationships for a while until you can sort some things out.

I wish you the best.

 

[SirIgbyCeaser]

Dude, you lawyer was right to plea you out.

"I could have hit her and had less days in jail?"

Its not a misdemeanor. It is a felony.

If I was the Crown's attorney, "Your Honor, the defendant clearly displays disregard to the seriousness of the charges levelled against him, and why the Commonwealth feels such statues are in place for the health and welfare of its subjects."

You need to not be in relationships for a while until you can sort some things out.

I wish you the best.

I should have never been arrested in the first place. I understand that because i was in the damn system I had nothing better to get.

But it was bullshit from start to finish. And no body could see who she was to me. Nobody knows how she was a psycho, and how I was in love with her anyway.

It was not warranted. I myself know ethically, I didn't commit a felony. Just writing in a law book says I did.

I know who she was, I didn't know what she'd say though. I know her parents would have made her life worse if she ended up helping me and they found out.

I'm not here for sympathy i'm here to write, and be heard. The law had no right, to get in-between me and her.

 

[Onemic]

I should have never been arrested in the first place. I understand that because i was in the damn system I had nothing better to get.

But it was bullshit from start to finish. And no body could see who she was to me. Nobody knows how she was a psycho, and how I was in love with her.

*sigh*

YOU HARASSED HER FOR A MONTH! How is that not grounds for you getting arrested even if she did(by your account) lie about what you did?

 

[NinjaBoiX]

OP, can you fill us in on how she was a psycho? What did she do?

 

[Willectro]

I doubt many people here will understand your laughter, but "big surprise" was also the first thing I thought of when I saw OCAD... I used to go there a few times a month for extra life drawing, but I absolutely couldn't stand the atmosphere of the people or that place for the most part. There are way better art schools to choose from.

Exactly. OP thinks because he is some fucking international art "student", that he can harass a woman who clearly wants nothing to do with him. We have more than enough deadbeat art students in Toronto. I can't believe we wasted tax payers money on keeping this moron in jail for any amount of time.

 

[Onemic]

OP, can you fill us in on how she was a psycho? What did she do?

She supposedly lied about what he did and he got arrested for harassment from trespassing into her house instead of the emails and phone calls he talked about in this thread. (at least that's what I got out of it

The funny thing is that the result would still be the same even if only those emails and phone calls were taken into account.

 

[ChiTownBuffalo]

I didn't commit a felony. Just writing in a law book says I did.

You met the requirements to be charged for criminal harassment.

The legal system convicted you of criminal harassment.

Pretty sure you committed a felony.

Oh shit...do you look like this guy?

 

[NinjaBoiX]

She supposedly lied about what he did and he got arrested for harassment from trespassing into her house instead of the emails and phone calls he talked about in this thread. (at least that's what I got out of it)

So "liar" then. Where did he get psycho from?

 

[Ramblin]

What'd you write in those emails?

 

[hyduK]

I should have never been arrested in the first place. I understand that because i was in the damn system I had nothing better to get.

But it was bullshit from start to finish. And no body could see who she was to me. Nobody knows how she was a psycho, and how I was in love with her anyway.

It was not warranted. I myself know ethically, I didn't commit a felony. Just writing in a law book says I did.

I know who she was, I didn't know what she'd say though. I know her parents would have made her life worse if she ended up helping me and they found out.

I'm not here for sympathy i'm here to write, and be heard. The law had no right, to get in-between me and her.

Wrong. You should have been arrested because based on what you've said in this thread you were harassing her. And I can only imagine how much more emotionally unstable you come across in person so I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if the 'love of your life' was scared for hers.

Writing in the law books says you did? Unfortunately for you (and fortunately for the rest of us) that's what the court goes by.

You're cray.

 

[NinjaBoiX]

You met the requirements to be charged for criminal harassment.

The legal system convicted you of criminal harassment.

Pretty sure you committed a felony.

Oh shit...do you look like this guy?

I love that the OP is arguing law with Chi.

 

[Alucrid]

I should have never been arrested in the first place. I understand that because i was in the damn system I had nothing better to get.

But it was bullshit from start to finish. And no body could see who she was to me. Nobody knows how she was a psycho, and how I was in love with her anyway.

It was not warranted. I myself know ethically, I didn't commit a felony. Just writing in a law book says I did.

I know who she was, I didn't know what she'd say though. I know her parents would have made her life worse if she ended up helping me and they found out.

I'm not here for sympathy i'm here to write, and be heard. The law had no right, to get in-between me and her.

Actually, they do. Your OP didn't sound that convincing and these posts further that doubt.

 

[SirIgbyCeaser]

Wrong. You should have been arrested because based on what you've said in this thread you were harassing her. And I can only imagine how much more emotionally unstable you come across in person so I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if the 'love of your life' was scared for hers.

Writing in the law books says you did? Unfortunately for you (and fortunately for the rest of us) that's what the court goes by.

You're cray.

I know i'm crazy, trust me on that.

But so was she. And that was what we had and were.

 

[Featheredkitten]

The law had no right, to get in-between me and her.

Woah. I'm honestly stunned.


Yes. YES. It did. You are a criminal, you harassed her and are whining that she did something to get you away from her. Op, i'm sorry to say, you deserved what you got and are lucky you had a good lawyer.

 

[SirIgbyCeaser]

I'm not a criminal by any ethical standards.

 

[Onemic]

Wrong. You should have been arrested because based on what you've said in this thread you were harassing her. And I can only imagine how much more emotionally unstable you come across in person so I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if the 'love of your life' was scared for hers.

Writing in the law books says you did? Unfortunately for you (and fortunately for the rest of us) that's what the court goes by.

You're cray.

Exactly, it doesn't matter if she was lying or not, because either way, based on what you said in this thread your actions were harassment and grounds for you being arrested. I don't know why that's so hard for him to accept. Sure, she may have lied, but that doesn't change the fact that what he did is still grounds for him being arrested.

It's like he's saying because she lied it absolves himself from any action he might have done previously. You're still guilty man. Now own up to it and learn from it.

I'm not a criminal by any ethical standards.

Based on ethical standards you still are, if we're going on what you said you did to her in this thread. I don't know why that's so hard to understand. You act as if because she may have lied it makes everything you did okay.

 

[Featheredkitten]

I'm not a criminal by any ethical standards.

Wrong! What ethical standards are you basing your assumption off of?

 

[hyduK]

I know i'm crazy, trust me on that.

But so was she. And that was what we had and were.

 

[ChiTownBuffalo]

I know i'm crazy, trust me on that.

But so was she. And that was us.

But, between you and her, who is the convicted felon?

Like I said, relationships cause all sorts of crazy shit. And I complete understand making lapses in judgement here and there. I've made them, all sorts of people on Gaf, down the street from me, everyone everywhere.

But your mistakes caused you to become convicted of a felony and deported from a country.

You are never coming back to Canada or the US ever again. Or Japan. Or Korea. I'm trying to think of places you can go where they don't care that you have a felony conviction.

 

[Navidson REC]

The law had no right, to get in-between me and her.

By definition, the law HAD the right to get in between you two because you did something that goes against the law. And why? Because people don't want to be harassed! That's the reason why it's "just writing in a law book".

This is getting ridiculous.

I know i'm crazy, trust me on that.

But so was she. And that was what we had and were.

Hey I just met you ...

 

[Onemic]

But, between you and her, who is the convicted felon?

Like I said, relationships cause all sorts of crazy shit. And I complete understand making lapses in judgement here and there. I've made them, all sorts of people on Gaf, down the street from me, everyone everywhere.

But your mistakes caused you to become convicted of a felony and deported from a country.

You are never coming back to Canada or the US ever again. Or Japan. Or Korea. I'm trying to think of places you can go where they don't care that you have a felony conviction.

Damn, never knew that bit.

 

[Nevasleep]

SirIgbyCeaser
Persona non grata
(Today, 04:32 PM)

I think you should just focus on doing well in Austria now, good luck and don't get too attached to the girls.

 

[cousins]

You sound like a creep. Grow up and move on.

 

[SirIgbyCeaser]

But, between you and her, who is the convicted felon?

Like I said, relationships cause all sorts of crazy shit. And I complete understand making lapses in judgement here and there. I've made them, all sorts of people on Gaf, down the street from me, everyone everywhere.

But your mistakes caused you to become convicted of a felony and deported from a country.

You are never coming back to Canada or the US ever again. Or Japan. Or Korea. I'm trying to think of places you can go where they don't care that you have a felony conviction.

It's with a conditional sentence. One year from now. The charges are revoked. And I still have that documents and such.

You see, the police did feel sorry for me enough. They knew I wasn't some felon or some danger. They robbed me of my life. And I don't give a shit what it looks like or what happened. I Know what I did, and I know what I wrote. And I know what went wrong, and I know I deserved better than what I got.

It's not a damn felony. but once you're convicted of that, you'll face the challenge the rest of your life. To convince people otherwise. It's just writing on paper. It's not real, it's not human. That any law could be put on me. Because I know who I am and what I was doing. And I know she wasn't scared, she just really wanted to ruin me.

 

[Featheredkitten]

OP, this is not romeo and juliet, this is not twilight, this is not destiny, this is Real Life, you two are not fated to be together and your actions had very serious consequences. Grow up and get over yourself.

 

[ChiTownBuffalo]

It's with a conditional sentence. One year from now. The charges are revoked. And I still have that documents and such.

Ok. Good. It sucks to be so limited like that.

But to be honest Igby, in order to keep you out of trouble. You have some issues you need to work out. It takes alot of hard work to learn how to have healthy relationships. If you can do that, when you're ready, you can have a nice happy productive one. One that doesn't involve felony allegations.

 

[Kusagari]

But, between you and her, who is the convicted felon?

Like I said, relationships cause all sorts of crazy shit. And I complete understand making lapses in judgement here and there. I've made them, all sorts of people on Gaf, down the street from me, everyone everywhere.

But your mistakes caused you to become convicted of a felony and deported from a country.

You are never coming back to Canada or the US ever again. Or Japan. Or Korea. I'm trying to think of places you can go where they don't care that you have a felony conviction.

Holy shit. That really does suck for the OP. Crazy as he may be.

 

[Rockandrollclown]

Dude, you have serious issues. Your blatant disregard for any legal boundaries put upon you in regards to stalking/harassment is very troubling. A smart person who was in your situation would try to move on, and see where they went wrong so as not to let themselves get into suck a mess again. You however still think you were in the right and that criminal harassment laws are "bullshit". Your statements about being "ethically right" and the "law having no place getting in the middle of you two", just wow dude.

I say this from the bottom of my heart, seek help.

 

[Mully]

Shit OP can't go to South Korea that's rough.

 

[Willectro]

It's with a conditional sentence. One year from now. The charges are revoked. And I still have that documents and such.

You see, the police did feel sorry for me enough. They knew I wasn't some felon or some danger. They robbed me of my life. And I don't give a shit what it looks like or what happened. I Know what I did, and I know what I wrote. And I know what went wrong, and I know I deserved better than what I got.

It's not a damn felony. but once you're convicted of that, you'll face the challenge the rest of your life. To convince people otherwise. It's just writing on paper. It's not real, it's not human. That any law could be put on me. Because I know who I am and what I was doing. And I know she wasn't scared, she just really wanted to ruin me.

Then don't come back to Canada. If you can't abide with our laws, then fuck off. Don't come here on a student visa and tell us how our laws don't suit you.

 

[NinjaBoiX]

Shit OP can't go to South Korea that's rough.

Oh man, Korean girls are beautiful. Than hair, that complexion, so attractive.

 

[Mully]

Edited for stupidity.

 

[Alucrid]

OP can't go to Korea and eat dog? That's rough.

wat

 

[ChiTownBuffalo]

He can go.

He got a conditional/deferred sentence. If he stays out of trouble, the conviction gets dropped.

On the other hand, it'll still be listed that you got deported from Canada.

Which may still raise flags in Japan and Korea, and maybe the UK and other Commonewealth nations too, actually.

You don't have to go to Korea to eat dog.

You can go to China and Vietnam too.

Dunno why you would want to, it tastes gross.

 

[hyduK]

He can go.

He got a conditional/deferred sentence. If he stays out of trouble, the conviction gets dropped.

On the other hand, it'll still be listed that you got deported from Canada.

Which may still raise flags in Japan and Korea, and maybe the UK and other Commonewealth nations too, actually.

You don't have to go to Korea to eat dog.

You can go to China and Vietnam too.

Dunno why you would want to, it tastes gross.

Yeah.

Probably don't want to commit a felony in China though. Don't think they'll be as nice as us.

 

[Willectro]

Yeah.

Probably don't want to commit a felony in China though. Don't think they'll be as nice as us.

Exactly. OP thinks Canada was heavy-handed? The Canadian legal system is freakishly lenient. Try and pull this shit in the US or certain Asian countries.

 

[SirIgbyCeaser]

He can go.

He got a conditional/deferred sentence. If he stays out of trouble, the conviction gets dropped.

On the other hand, it'll still be listed that you got deported from Canada.

Which may still raise flags in Japan and Korea, and maybe the UK and other Commonewealth nations too, actually.

You don't have to go to Korea to eat dog.

You can go to China and Vietnam too.

Dunno why you would want to, it tastes gross.

I hope to have a new passport sometime. But i'm never returning to canada. I don't want to be criminal because of who I choose to fall in love with.

 

[Alucrid]

I hope to have a new passport sometime. But i'm never returning to canada. I don't want to be criminal because of who I choose to fall in love with.

You can't stop true love man! Return and claim your bride.


lol

 

[Deleted member 1235]

I should have never been arrested in the first place. I understand that because i was in the damn system I had nothing better to get.

But it was bullshit from start to finish. And no body could see who she was to me. Nobody knows how she was a psycho, and how I was in love with her anyway.

It was not warranted. I myself know ethically, I didn't commit a felony. Just writing in a law book says I did.

I know who she was, I didn't know what she'd say though. I know her parents would have made her life worse if she ended up helping me and they found out.

I'm not here for sympathy i'm here to write, and be heard. The law had no right, to get in-between me and her.

this is all fucking crazy talk.

 

[Featheredkitten]

I hope to have a new passport sometime. But i'm never returning to canada. I don't want to be criminal because of who I choose to fall in love with.

You're not a criminal because of who you fell in love with, you're a criminal because of your actions after the relationship ended.

 

[Onemic]

I hope to have a new passport sometime. But i'm never returning to canada. I don't want to be criminal because of who I choose to fall in love with.

Because you'll go after her again?

The fact that you still think you did nothing wrong is troubling.

 

[ChiTownBuffalo]

I hope to have a new passport sometime. But i'm never returning to canada. I don't want to be criminal because of who I choose to fall in love with.

But, it wasn't who you fell in love with.

It wasn't like Dudley Do Right was quoting Kipling saying "East is East and West is West and never the twain shall meet."

Dudley Do Right stepped in because you got all Snidely Whiplash.

Fuck, my analogy makes me old.

 

[SirIgbyCeaser]

Because you'll go after her again?

The fact that you still think you did nothing wrong is troubling.

Yeah well, you should fucking know what it's like. To be sleeping with someone one month, and be in jail from her and her parents the next.

 

[Mr. B Natural]

You can lead a pyscho to water but you can't make him not shove water in his ears and sing Whitney Houston's Bodyguard theme song at the top of his lunges.

 

[hyduK]

Yeah well, you should fucking know what it's like. To be sleeping with someone one month, and be in jail from her and her parents the next.

Funnily enough, I actually don't know what that's like. The benefits of not being batshit insane and stuff...

 

[Ramblin]

Yeah well, you should fucking know what it's like. To be sleeping with someone one month, and be in jail from her and her parents the next.

Well if that's what it really was then I guess you should be relieved to be away from such a crazy lady and corrupt country.

 

[Featheredkitten]

Yeah well, you should fucking know what it's like. To be sleeping with someone one month, and be in jail from harassing her the next.

fixed that for ya.

 

[LordCanti]

Yeah well, you should fucking know what it's like. To be sleeping with someone one month, and be in jail from her and her parents the next.

You aren't amassing a fortune and planning to return as a count, are you?