Believe it or not, gamers who like the Atelier series are NOT pedophiles

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I never realized this was perceived as a problem by some with the Atelier games. Like, I know some people had issues with other games and shows because of the occasionally explicit nature of their content, but the Atelier series always seemed to cutesy and flowery to me to fall into the "people must be sexually attracted to this! rabble rabble rabble!" zone.

Weird.
 
*high five*

I have all 3 collector edition! Played like 20 minutes... all 3 games combined!
Wow. I wouldn't be able to justify the time if I bought all 3 CE's and barely played them.

Sorry, i'm off my game, just woke up.

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This is what gaming is about.
The shock value on those faces. LOL.
 
Y-you're merely postponing the inevitable

F-found you!

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Onii-chan, kawaii!

Yo... what? It must be horrible to be as ignorant and judgmental as you are. I pity you.

Yeah.... no, it just seems creepy...
Thanks for contributing!

Am I too late to make the cut?
Living up to your username, I see. You are sick beyond help.

well i'm convinced
You should be!
 
After reading the OP, I think I'll go to Gamestop and get Atelier Totori. The title comes off as too defensive IMO, but based on his main point it really does sound like a good game. I've played a fair share of games recently that people would probably object to based on the posts here, and they've brought me countless hours of entertainment: Recettear, Chantelise, Fortune Summoners, Arcana Heart 3, etc. The first three come from a localization company called Carpe Fulgur, and particularly Recettear has had unprecedented success for the English version. Recettear being an action RPG/item shop simulator, Chantelise and Fortune Summoners being also action RPGs. Granted these games had little to no objectionable content, but all the same they all feature cutesy anime girl characters, and they are all protagonists. They were all great games, and as a gamer I would be doing myself a disservice for not playing them due to prejudices caused by how a game looks (not saying this is the case for everyone here, but it's a real issue).

As a competitive fighting game player, I also enjoyed the shit out of AH3 as well. I've played AE, SCV, KOFXIII, T5-T6, SFxT (ugh) all competitively. It has one of the most unique fighting mechanics I've come across and it was a joy to play it at the arcade (Arcade UFO in Austin was one of the only arcades in the US that had this sadly). The game also featured an all-girl cast, but to the best of my knowledge there's no stuff like pantyshots. Unfortunately, the console release came out extremely late and on top of that, the publishers decided to add animated sidebars and galleries for the sole purpose of fanservice, which I think only served to take away from the game itself.

From the perspective of the developers/artists, I can't blame them for sneaking in panty-shots or the like if they believe it will help the game sell, even if does not elicit any reaction from me and possibly offend others. However, games are not necessarily centered around this aspect, and while the looks of a game is part of the overall package and determines how much you enjoy a game, I think it's also important to not judge the quality of the game itself based on its aesthetic. I could care less for random bouts of fanservice in a game as long as things like the story, game mechanics and such deliver.

Another thing worth noting is that I find it really easy to get into games like these, because it's simply a game, and it's made for my entertainment. Sure, I wouldn't want my boss seeing me play Atelier Totori, just as I wouldn't want him seeing me watch random food recipes or cat videos on Youtube.

Here's an example of a game I played recently, Ys Origin:

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I thought to myself "What? Ys: The Oath in Felghana's protagonist was this badass red haired dude, why is it generic moe axegirl now?", and well, I was pleasantly surprised. There's a lot of incredibly badass moments in the game, I loved the fighting, I loved the soundtrack, it was a joy to play. It's also really challenging, which I like (on Nightmare difficulty). Granted there's also 2 additional male main characters, but you have to unlock the third one by playing the first two, and the girl was the first choice.

Anyway, enough of my ranting. I can understand people passing on games if it doesn't fit their taste aesthetically, and some other games are diamonds in the rough which I'm very willing to look past its weak points (including unnecessary fanservice), while others are not. It's sad that people will judge you based on a game you can buy at some random Gamestop, but that's just how it goes. At the end of the day it's just entertainment and a new experience for me.
 
My advice to you in the future though, is don't bother with making threads like this unless you are willing to take heat for it because its really just not worth it. People took sides long ago on this issue and trying to explain it just doesnt work out well for anyone. But I commend your efforts anyway. Live long and hnnngh at cute things my friend.

Yeah, this thread has been educational, to say the least. :)

You spelled Cloche wrong.

*high five*
 
I'm surprised it's the Arland trilogy getting singled out for this. 99% of the game is spent either staring at a menu, in battle or in a light hearted comedy scenes. Frankly for 40+ hour games you have a few spots of innuendo and usually one or two scenes of characters in their underwear or swimwear. This is the same pattern you see in virtually any JRPG that includes light hearted elements - off the top of my head, the newer Persona games, virtually all of the Dept. Heaven games, virtually all the newer Tales games. You expand this into anime and you'd have a shorter list by noting every anime that DOESN'T do this.

I think it's a shame to write off games because of these tacked on fanservice scenes - the atelier series has very unique gameplay mechanics and arguably one of the better light-toned RPG stories.

It's kinda hard to justify games like Neptunia and Qoga though...
 
Holy shit what show is this from? I'm dying here.

Ohhhh, you're supposed to do it like that! My life so far was a lie!

My advice to you in the future though, is don't bother with making threads like this unless you are willing to take heat for it because its really just not worth it. People took sides long ago on this issue and trying to explain it just doesnt work out well for anyone. But I commend your efforts anyway. Live long and hnnngh at cute things my friend.

I miss icecream threads, really.
 
Are the avatars on this page a meta commentary or has there always been so many people with anime avatars just waiting to post in succession?
 
I can finally stop crying myself to sleep now!

Nah, someone on GAF seriously believed Pokémon makes you a pedophile. He couldn't explain why but IT TOTALLY DOES BECAUSE REASONS

to be fair though, I think somehow gaf manages to balance itself quite nicely in that regard. there are enough posters who think everything with a male-protagonist is dudebro to make up for all the people who think that anime games make you a kiddie-fiddler.

circle of life, beautiful in its own way.
 
I can finally stop crying myself to sleep now!

Nah, someone on GAF seriously believed Pokémon makes you a pedophile. He couldn't explain why but IT TOTALLY DOES BECAUSE REASONS

I think, I know what you're talking about, someone in the post your controversial gaming opinions thread right?
 
As a competitive fighting game player, I also enjoyed the shit out of AH3 as well. I've played AE, SCV, KOFXIII, T5-T6, SFxT (ugh) all competitively. It has one of the most unique fighting mechanics I've come across and it was a joy to play it at the arcade (Arcade UFO in Austin was one of the only arcades in the US that had this sadly). The game also featured an all-girl cast, but to the best of my knowledge there's no stuff like pantyshots. Unfortunately, the console release came out extremely late and on top of that, the publishers decided to add animated sidebars and galleries for the sole purpose of fanservice, which I think only served to take away from the game itself.
The sidebars weren't really distracting if you were playing. I can see how they'd be a problem as a spectator if you weren't really invested in watching the actual game, but considering how little spotlight AH3 had and the small playerbase, I think I played more than I watched the game anyway.

I can understand people having problems with Schar and Kira though.

Are the avatars on this page a meta commentary or has there always been so many people with anime avatars just waiting to post in succession?

I was suddenly awakened to my inner pedo-ness and I needed to express it to NeoGAF as quickly as possible.
 
My wife loves these games, and I can dig on 'em too, they're good fun if you're into crafting and bits of time management.

They're pretty damn pandery on the surface though, no one at all can deny that, the cover level is all the typical frills and moe shit. Still, the content within is fairly tame and has it's charms, there's really nothing worse than say... the beach scene in Valkyria from my experience. There's plenty to raise arms against in terms of content in these niche games, but I wouldn't consider these one to go after. They're pretty good fare, if you can get over how utterly girly they are.

Now the garbage that like... Idea Factory, Compile Heart, even Gust's other team cranks out, that's all pretty awful, both in design and for being creepy otaku-bait bullshit.
 
I gotta admit I felt a little weird and self conscious when my sister watched me play this game. She didn't say anything to make me think it was weird but its just so damn cutesy I couldn't help it. Didn't have anything to do with it being pervy, though.
 
I gotta admit I felt a little weird and self conscious when my sister watched me play this game. She didn't say anything to make me think it was weird but its just so damn cutesy I couldn't help it.

My sister (who's over 20) likes them, though she thinks the costumes are kinda ridiculous.
 
As much as I respect the OP for writing his opinion of the game, I think this thread is stupid. In fact the whole Pedophilia arguments is bloody stupid since it seems to be spouted by people who do not understand what the word means. I honestly don't believe there are people who thinks the series is made for pedos.

Having said that, the series is not that enjoyable, from what the little experience I had with the first PS3 game.
 
I gotta admit I felt a little weird and self conscious when my sister watched me play this game. She didn't say anything to make me think it was weird but its just so damn cutesy I couldn't help it. Didn't have anything to do with it being pervy, though.

I'd do the same thing. There's probably only one person I know who I'd feel comfortable playing these type of games around.
 
The sidebars weren't really distracting if you were playing. I can see how they'd be a problem as a spectator if you weren't really invested in watching the actual game, but considering how little spotlight AH3 had and the small playerbase, I think I played more than I watched the game anyway.

I can understand people having problems with Schar and Kira though.

They didn't bother me in the slightest, it's just that in the states these features would only serve to drive people away from the game, let's be real here.

I also main Kira, and Scharlachrot is a goddamn nightmare to fight.
 
My wife loves these games, and I can dig on 'em too, they're good fun if you're into crafting and bits of time management.

They're pretty damn pandery on the surface though, no one at all can deny that, the cover level is all the typical frills and moe shit. Still, the content within is fairly tame and has it's charms, there's really nothing worse than say... the beach scene in Valkyria from my experience. There's plenty to raise arms against in terms of content in these niche games, but I wouldn't consider these one to go after. They're pretty good fare, if you can get over how utterly girly they are.

Now the garbage that like... Idea Factory, Compile Heart, even Gust's other team cranks out, that's all pretty awful, both in design and for being creepy otaku-bait bullshit.

Women are allowed to do anything they feel like, especially when cutesy is involved.

Except Billiechu, you're horrible I tell ye!
 
I had no idea this was an issue that required that much explanation.

Really, the pony stuff you see around Gaf raises more questions for me than this. What up wit dat shit.
 
Yeah. That thread was insane.

That thread was great. It's so obvious people are hiding their real opinions on this forum in most threads out of courtesy. Which is fine, but it's nice to have some raw honesty once in a while, even if it is offensive
 
Having said that, the series is not that enjoyable, from what the little experience I had with the first PS3 game.

As someone who's played all three because of how fun they were, I can attest to their enjoyable-ness. I don't mean to say that everyone will enjoy it, but if you do like it, everything in the OP will ring true to you.

Although, I can kinda understand if you've played the first one. Compared to the second and the third games, the first was kinda shallow. The most fun I had with alchemy in that game was because of how loose inheriting traits were, so you could make equipment with amazing stats and amazing items because everything transferred. The second and the third are less fun in that regard (not by much though, and the third game has enough stat-boosting traits if you liked that in the first game), but the alchemy systems in those games are a lot "deeper", there were a lot more interesting items, and the goals in the game were a lot more interesting to make up for it.

They didn't bother me in the slightest, it's just that in the states these features would only serve to drive people away from the game, let's be real here.

I also main Kira, and Scharlachrot is a goddamn nightmare to fight.

Like I said, if you were interested in actually watching the gameplay, it wasn't a problem. I agree that it drove people away though. I heard that Kira had a lot of tough matchups in general. Not that I had a lot of time to explore the game before it died in my area...
 
They didn't bother me in the slightest, it's just that in the states these features would only serve to drive people away from the game, let's be real here.

I also main Kira, and Scharlachrot is a goddamn nightmare to fight.

I get my ass kicked in that game so badly. Not that I'm good with fighting games in general.
 
I'd do the same thing. There's probably only one person I know who I'd feel comfortable playing these type of games around.

penis

but seriously who? Family? Lady friend?


Now that i think about it, i'm not really comfortable with anyone watching me play any games.

I tend to perform worse with eyes staring at me play :S
 
That thread was great. It's so obvious people are hiding their real opinions on this forum in most threads out of courtesy. Which is fine, but it's nice to have some raw honesty once in a while, even if it is offensive

It was a pretty amazing thread. Can't say it did much to help my blood-pressure though.
 
As much as I respect the OP for writing his opinion of the game, I think this thread is stupid. In fact the whole Pedophilia arguments is bloody stupid since it seems to be spouted by people who do not understand what the word means. I honestly don't believe there are people who thinks the series is made for pedos.

Having said that, the series is not that enjoyable, from what the little experience I had with the first PS3 game.

First PS3 game, Rorona, is literally like the worst game in the series. It was pretty bad, unpolished stuff that comes with the first jump to 3D on a strict schedule. They got a lot better after that, freakishly so, considering how much polish and reiteration they get done within a years time, I mean these are good looking, very polished games running in full 720p with like 4X AA. I'm always surprised how much they can get done while the rest of their peers struggle.

Anyhow Ayesha is a new series, much better aesthetic as well, in my opinion. Especially the male designs and the color scheme. May wanna give that one a go in the future if you're ever hankering for some niche JRPG fluff. Unless they screwed that one up or something, I don't know.
 
penis

but seriously who? Family? Lady friend?


Now that i think about it, i'm not really comfortable with anyone watching me play any games.

I tend to perform worse with eyes staring at me play :S

I dunno. I had a lot of fun playing Zelda SS with my relatives watching. they wanted to know why I cut down every single tree and piece of grass lol.
 
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