I guess some people are just too blinded by their own desires or worse.. . I was just talking in my case. I never had a complaint and pretty sure i never will, unless i do some psychopath.
OH well.
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I guess some people are just too blinded by their own desires or worse.. . I was just talking in my case. I never had a complaint and pretty sure i never will, unless i do some psychopath.
OH well.
Apparently some people would rather ignore the doubt and push on ahead because they can get away with it.
Not what I meant, but I appreciate the words anyway.
ClovingWestbrook
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wtf is this?
That means slap your dick against her vagina but not in it!
That means you're not raping her!
Or you know, ASK HER CHRIST
Jesus... I step away from this thread for a few hrs and it gets shitted on. Thank you Devolution for the link to that reddit thread. It's really scary how many guys just don't get it that they are terrible to judge the scenario. How many times do you hear stories of rape where the guy thinks he did nothing wrong and that the girl "wanted" it.
low-G is exactly right. Asking doesn't have to be, "Are you sure you want to have sex?" You can make it as sexy as you want, tailoring it to the situation. In fact it can enhance the sexy time with dirty talk. It's not that hard.
low-G is exactly right. Asking doesn't have to be, "Are you sure you want to have sex?" You can make it as sexy as you want, tailoring it to the situation. In fact it can enhance the sexy time with dirty talk. It's not that hard.
The Anti-Monitor
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"Okay GAF so I'm seeing this girl but how do I not rape her. This is more complicated than I thought"
SquiddyCracker
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This thread wouldn't turn to all shitty every now and then if people dropped the whole machismo bullshit.
Yeah, yeah, we get it, you know that it's the way it is because you have experience and all that you can extrapolate - but whenever you bring up that stuff you really throw the thread on a pointless sidetrack for a couple of pages.
Yeah, yeah, we get it, you know that it's the way it is because you have experience and all that you can extrapolate - but whenever you bring up that stuff you really throw the thread on a pointless sidetrack for a couple of pages.
Jo Shishido's Cheeks
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SquiddyCracker
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He's not the first to have been banned over stuff like that, they keep on popping up and spouting bullshit before getting banned.
YOLO
ClovingWestbrook
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Im sorry that not all of us are willing to pat everyone on the head for saying hello to a girl. Many of us who have been where these guys are are trying to help them by not sugar coating shit. Deal with it.
I think that may have been more or less aimed at stuff like cubfan's "dicktease test of consent"
ClovingWestbrook
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Eh. Even so.
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AdventureRacing
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I've never asked before and i've never felt the need to ask. Your condescesion is pretty unwarranted and unnecessary.
The Anti-Monitor
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I assume people are talking when there's any doubt or she seems particularly uneasy.
If she's trying to unmake your belt with the mouth you probably don't need to ask.
okay
lets just start rattling off all the ways to get consent since "is this consensual non-rape sex we're about to do?" is too hard
-"you down to fuck?"
-"may i?"
-"mind if i flip those pancakes?"
-"is your body ready?"
-"yolo"
lets make a list
Devolution
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"how much do you want this/my dick/cock? mmm tell me..."
ClovingWestbrook
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Jo Shishido's Cheeks
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"Girrrrrrrrrrlllll, we gon FUCK!"
AdventureRacing
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That's fair enough but that to me it sounds like they are implying that you should always ask.
I just don't see why it's necessary unless the person you are with feels uncomfortable which is so incredibly obvious.
MadraptorMan
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Is it acceptable to call a girl you're interested in dating in the morning to invite them to something? I've tried calling her once before in the evening but didn't get an answer.
Some things are just completely, painfully obvious - but this is dating-age, and overthinking shit is how we keep the lights on
SquiddyCracker
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Devolution
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Again, plenty of men don't feel it necessary, yet go ahead and rape someone anyway.
I'd never make that assumption when it's someone who I didn't know and understand well. And he certainly did not know her that well. His caution was justified.
The minute she went from "Only if you ask permission" to "Are you going to keep asking permission" I'd have shut it down. Especially when it's my bedroom we're in.
Now the rest of what's being said about not having invited her into the room to "watch movies" and "sorry baby I gotta go to work" I can see where things went wrong and how she might have felt used. But that permission stuff is kryptonite. If you want me to ask permission I'll either go along with it or I'll say goodnight. But if I go along with it then don't change the game. Don't play head games with me in my own house.
FO-totality
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Devolution
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Good to see you're up to your usual abilities in retorting.
soundahfekz
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Do you have to take on every thread lately and make it about men vs women and how we don't give a fuck about how you feel?
Let's start getting statistics on all the times women have jumped on top of a dick without verbal consent to do so because she was wet and he was hard. Oh wait
Devolution
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Who said men don't give a fuck about how women feel? Rapists sure don't, that's kind of the point.
I couldn't tell if you were serious. It's not every day I see you randomly calling gaffers rapists.
Oh wait.
Devolution
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Please point me to the post where I randomly called gaffers rapists.
soundahfekz
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Right, and if verbal, communicable consent is what's needed to engage in sexual activity in order for it not to be rape then men are extremely under represented in that category as well, but I don't see you crusading about that.
You're being ridiculous right now
Devolution
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I said that there are scores of people who do not understand body language that obviously cross the line and that it's better to encourage active enthusiastic consent. Where did I call those who don't get verbal consent this thread rapists?
Jo Shishido's Cheeks
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The rape/consent discussion is a direct response to what CrushDance posted in this thread so not sure how it's derailing anything, it's just the natural progression from the initial responses.
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There's this one girl who I met in college a year or two ago. Got her numbers but nothing more than that. A few weeks ago I saw her at the store, said hi, and smiled.
Now she keeps texting me and asking me generic questions about how or what I'm doing. I always say hey lets get together on so-and-so or hey are you free on so-and-so and I always get a "I'll let you know if I can!" She never can. I swear this has happened four or five times.
She's always the one to text me first.
Now she keeps texting me and asking me generic questions about how or what I'm doing. I always say hey lets get together on so-and-so or hey are you free on so-and-so and I always get a "I'll let you know if I can!" She never can. I swear this has happened four or five times.
She's always the one to text me first.
CherryWoodFuton
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Dating-age threads used to be so beautiful 
Sub_Level: Ignore her text.
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soundahfekz
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You're really gonna play the "when did I call men in here rapists?" card? You've done everything here but look to make men look like complete imbeciles, quoting feminist sites and ranting about women being raped because they didn't verbally commit without one peep about how many men, by your own (and your site's) definition have been "raped" as well. I'm waiting to see your research on that one.
You've got 100 different threads to debate how underrepresented women are and you come into the dating age thread, full of predominately males who already DON'T have confidence with women and scare the shit out of them with some bullshit reddit link that doesn't apply to 99% of men out there. Congrats, you've made at least 10 pages of this topic about how persecuted and mistreated women are for the 100th time on gaf.
I like you as a poster Devo, but you're approaching dragona levels of shield wielding minus the ban power (sort of).
Etrian Oddity
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Interesting development. Turns out a girl I hit it off with a few weeks ago out on the town is actually a childhood friend of my roommate. And she comes by all the time.
A couple of challenges are present. One is that this constant exposure immediately threw me into the friend-zone. Another is that she goes to parties and clubs all the time. She's a couple years younger than me, and she likes bad boys, so that's a strike too.
On the other hand, every time I've been out with her at a club or party, she has rebuffed all other guys hitting on her. She also knows from our first meeting that I am definitely interested, though the flirting has toned down. She also knows for a fact that she's safe when I'm around.
My friends think I'm overanalyzing and putting her on a pedestal, but I can't help but think this prospect has been ruined. :|
A couple of challenges are present. One is that this constant exposure immediately threw me into the friend-zone. Another is that she goes to parties and clubs all the time. She's a couple years younger than me, and she likes bad boys, so that's a strike too.
On the other hand, every time I've been out with her at a club or party, she has rebuffed all other guys hitting on her. She also knows from our first meeting that I am definitely interested, though the flirting has toned down. She also knows for a fact that she's safe when I'm around.
My friends think I'm overanalyzing and putting her on a pedestal, but I can't help but think this prospect has been ruined. :|
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