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Breaking Bad - Season 5, Part 1 - Sundays on AMC

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You know, my favorite character on the show is Hank. I hope nothing bad happens to him. Jesse too.

Skylar is annoying as fuck, your husband is a criminal, get on board or get the fuck out of the way.
 
You know, my favorite character on the show is Hank. I hope nothing bad happens to him. Jesse too.

Skylar is annoying as fuck, your husband is a criminal, get on board or get the fuck out of the way.

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But holy hell do I not understand how anyone could possibly be on Walt's side anymore. He has gone so far beyond so many lines that it scares me a bit that others are actually rooting for him at this point.
Because good girls love the bad guy.

Because he's an interesting multidimensional character that is balls deep in a world he knows little about but somehow came to rule, and the entire world is going to come crashing down on him long enough to destroy his last living days on Earth. But he is so interesting and his plight has been so fun to watch that you could never wish the worst on the guy, even if he kills babies
 
Serially guys, anywhere I can watch this? I don't have AMC.

I think you know the answer to this question.


I liked the latest episode much better than the previous one.

Last week's was definitely plot driven whereas this one was pure character stuff. That's what I love about this show. From week to week, it balances plot/story insanely well. It never gets too bogged down in meth cooking or the family melodrama. Every episode feels fresh and new.
 
Jesus, people that inject morality into TV watching are absurd. It's fiction. You can enjoy Walt's character, prefer him to every other character within the show and root for a happy ending to his character, and it doesn't mean shit about you in real life.

All of these people saying that there's something wrong with those who don't side with Skylar, and do not absolutely loathe Walt, are being ridiculous. It's a freaking television show.

I dislike Skylar and I like Walt. Walt, while morally repugnant and a despicable human being, is entertaining to watch. Skylar, while morally gray but deserving so in many cases, comes off as overly whiny, and is awkward and infuriating to watch. I'm not sexist, I'd just rather watch someone balance a drug empire and family life, while delving deeper and deeper into the rabbit hole, instead of someone whine, nag and have panic attacks. Once again, she's certainly deserving of these characteristics, but as a viewer, they're simply not fun to experience repeatedly.
 
Jesus, people that inject morality into TV watching are absurd. It's fiction. You can enjoy Walt's character, prefer him to every other character within the show and root for a happy ending to his character, and it doesn't mean shit about you in real life.

All of these people saying that there's something wrong with those who don't side with Skylar, and do not absolutely loathe Walt, are being ridiculous. It's a freaking television show.

I dislike Skylar and I like Walt. Walt, while morally repugnant and a despicable human being, is entertaining to watch. Skylar, while morally gray but deserving so in many cases, comes off as overly whiny, and is awkward and infuriating to watch. I'm not sexist, I'd just rather watch someone balance a drug empire and family life, while delving deeper and deeper into the rabbit hole, instead of someone whine, nag and have panic attacks. Once again, she's certainly deserving of these characteristics, but as a viewer, they're simply not fun to experience repeatedly.

It's fine if you just watch the show as pure entertainment. It is capable of, and succeds at, being so much more than that, though.
 
Skylars character seems fine to me, and im digging the building tension. I will say Ive never been terribly impressed with the actress though, one of the weak links of the show, IMO.
 
I can understand some of the Skylar hate, since her character is that of an incredibly flawed person. It's a testament to the writers' abilities that she's able to issue such (polarizing) emotions in others. I don't think everyone should necessarily have to be on her side at this point because of those things.

But holy hell do I not understand how anyone could possibly be on Walt's side anymore. He has gone so far beyond so many lines that it scares me a bit that others are actually rooting for him at this point.


You really can't see it? It's not obvious? Tell me do you not see why vidja game developers include "evil" side play throughs in games? Not only that, like it's been said, he's the main character of the show, most people want the character they see the most, succeed. And again, not only that, it's a freaking show man, a fantasy, not real. You don't have to bring real into not real yo.

I hope you're just exaggerating when you say the word "scared." Cause you don't wanna see my Mass Effect 3 play through in that case. You'll have me executed quicker than *insert clever/witty joke here*
 
Wow this season has been great so far. Hank's uncovering Walt's identity has been teased a few times but with his latest promotion it begs the question, what will lead Hank to ultimately discover who once and for all Heisenberg is.

It's sort of like watching a slow car crash happen with Season 5's cold opening and the latest episode showing Walt bucking all the lessons Gus tried teaching him about having longevity in the business. And that comes with staying under the radar.

Shame that most of this discussion in this thread devolves around why it is or isn't right to root for certain characters.
 
yes, but i dont think this show is aiming for social commentary

Ok, you realize that there are higher purposes to media that aren't directly related to 'social commentary', right?

Seriously. The world of literature (of a loose definition) is not divided between a pure binary of social commentary and mindless entertainment.

Breaking Bad is one of the best shows on television, and certainly several levels above average for the medium in terms of its depth. A show doesn't have to be the wire or even anything like it to be just as good or just as important.
 
Ok, you realize that there are higher purposes to media that aren't directly related to 'social commentary', right?

Seriously. The world of literature (of a loose definition) is not divided between a pure binary of social commentary and mindless entertainment.

Breaking Bad is one of the best shows on television, and certainly several levels above average for the medium in terms of its depth. A show doesn't have to be the wire or even anything like it to be just as good or just as important.

i never called the show mindless entertainment and i of course agree that its one of the best show on television

im just agreeing with harson that liking or disliking walt doesnt have deep personality implications .. and the endless debate about it is kind of tiresome
 
The endless debate about it is kind of tiresome

Couldn't agree more. I think everyone has exhausted the debate and with each morsel that is divulged with new episodes the same discussions are regurgitated.

So what is the consensus on the tracking bug on the tin? Is it possible Mike is wrong?
 
So what is the consensus on the tracking bug on the tin? Is it possible Mike is wrong?

i didnt really buy his theory based on what little weve seen of lydia.. she doesn't seem capable of that

also when you think about it why wouldn't the dea track the methylamine

on the other hand mike knows his business
 
i didnt really buy his theory based on what little weve seen of lydia.. she doesn't seem capable of that

also when you think about it why wouldn't the dea track the methylamine

on the other hand mike knows his business

Naaa I think she is. The few times we've seen her she's been extremely jittery and panicky, the shoddy job of faking a DEA tracking device would go along with that.
 
i never called the show mindless entertainment and i of course agree that its one of the best show on television

im just agreeing with harson that liking or disliking walt doesnt have deep personality implications .. and the endless debate about it is kind of tiresome

Forgive me, that's usually the implication when people start trotting out The Wire comparisons. Also someone else said it was and that's where this conversation started, as far as I could tell.

And I agree as well. It doesn't inherently say anything about a person, either way. Though I think there have been times where it might, but it's always hard to tell how much of that is trolling.

But I do find it fascinating that people come to different conclusions about Walt, and I think it's by far the most fascinating (and discussable) thing about this show.

i didnt really buy his theory based on what little weve seen of lydia.. she doesn't seem capable of that

also when you think about it why wouldn't the dea track the methylamine

on the other hand mike knows his business

She tried to organize a hit on 10 people. I don't think a minor deception of strapping a tracker to a barrel seems out of her reach.
 
yeah that was before mike was in her bedroom with a gun to her head

i guess that could go either way though.. shes scared to death of him enough to not want to fuck with him again or she wants him gone more than ever in order to take risks like that
 
I feel bad for skyler after this episode.

And gaf you are hilarious, dat skyler hate. I mean I still dislike her but I feel for her now.

and damn..."the cancer to come back"
 
What if someone else at Madrigal bugged the drum in the hopes of finally finding out who Gus's cooks are? I don't believe there was just Schuler, Lydia and Gus, there had to be more people involved high up.
 
Im also going to guess Lydia planted the GPS. Maybe itll be one of those "half measures" that bites Mike again.

Im probably wrong though!
 
You Skylar sympathizers make me sick. Walt is full retard to trust in a woman like her with all of the surrounding factors. I knew she would be the one to bring him down.

I like how some of you believe that Walt is abusive, it is Skyler who is abusive mentally, & by her actions.
Fuck a guy get back with Walt only to use his hard earned money on a douche who fucked his wife & can't manage his business.
Honestly Walt should have took out the trash then & there.
Skylar has remained the sole blemish on this perfect show, her acting is great, you are supposed to hate her, She is the obvious Achilles heel.

I hope that now that she showed suicidal tendancy & is trying to take Walt's kids away, that Walt rubs her out soon.....

hahahahahaha

it's a funny byproduct of the show that it can help you point out burgeoning sociopaths on the internet
 
If he killed Holly and became a cartoon super villain, maybe, but there is very little Walt could do that the average viewer wouldn't be for his plight. He is a charismatic as all fuck.

The viewer is allowed to see his inner workings and all the messed up shit he does.
 
You Skylar sympathizers make me sick. Walt is full retard to trust in a woman like her with all of the surrounding factors. I knew she would be the one to bring him down.

I like how some of you believe that Walt is abusive, it is Skyler who is abusive mentally, & by her actions.
Fuck a guy get back with Walt only to use his hard earned money on a douche who fucked his wife & can't manage his business.
Honestly Walt should have took out the trash then & there.
Skylar has remained the sole blemish on this perfect show, her acting is great, you are supposed to hate her, She is the obvious Achilles heel.

I hope that now that she showed suicidal tendancy & is trying to take Walt's kids away, that Walt rubs her out soon.....

I agree with everything this man says, except for the bolded part. Also the she's smoking the house up trying everything she can to get Walt's cancer rolling again. What a fucking degenerate bitch.
 
hahahahahaha

it's a funny byproduct of the show that it can help you point out burgeoning sociopaths on the internet

What really scares me is that Dexter is a highly viewed show.

That thing became crap once they made it clear that Dexter would become a character to root for, in season two. Season one was perfect, since you didn't root for Dexter at all.

I kind of blew up at someone at Comic-Con over it, but quickly retracted.
 
Naaa I think she is. The few times we've seen her she's been extremely jittery and panicky, the shoddy job of faking a DEA tracking device would go along with that.

Agreed. It seems like quite a pretty well tought messure, but very poorly executed. Typical Lydia for all we know :P

And damn, those dinner scenes with Walt and Jr. making fun were intense with Skylar on the edge of insanity watching them.
 
Anyone know what the german conversation was?

Something about needing a software upgrade because the current system is inefficient or has problems. (my German isn't great, any actual German speakers who can clarify?)

Lydia made the barrel disappear in the system, with an upgraded system it might not be possible for her to keep doing that. Also the disappearing barrels might be the reason why they think they need better software.
 
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