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[la flama blanca]

Noone before or after Jane's death could have predicted the plane. If my dog pissed on the sidewalk in the winter and it froze, then a child slipped on it, hitting there head leading to death does it make me or my dog a murderer of that child? Don't be ridiculous.

Nah dude, you're the one being ridiculous. All I've seen out of you in this thread is damn near trolling.

 

[Wiggum2007]

Is Walt wearing Jesse's watch on his 52nd birthday?

 

[GremlinFool]

Don't care if it's .1% for smoking 3 packs a day.

There is no reason beyond evil/selfishness to do so.

Ban him already.

 

[daw840]

Don't care if it's .1% for smoking 3 packs a day.

There is no reason beyond evil/selfishness to do so.

Jesus christ, really?

You know, my wife smoked when we she got pregnant, the doc actually told her to just cut back and gradually try to quit. So as not to put her body into to much shock from the immediate cessation of nicotine. It's really not that bad...

 

[dave is ok]

I've gotten banned for much less than this. Just saying.

I'm starting to get depressed from the long wait after the next four weeks.

 

[-Pyromaniac-]

I've gotten banned for much less than this. Just saying.

I'm starting to get depressed from the long wait after the next four weeks.

To me, the wait in between episodes when it's actually airing is more painful than the year wait in between season halves.

I just want to fast forward to Sunday and keep watching.

 

[shamanick]

Don't care if it's .1% for smoking 3 packs a day.

There is no reason beyond evil/selfishness to do so.

You can believe what you want, but as a society, we collectively disagree that smoking while pregnant is more "evil" than murder or manufacturing and distributing illegal narcotics. Crazy, I know.

 

[Mindlog]

Then why don't you just fucking die, already?! Just give up and die.

What was the reaction to that? I can't recall the BB thread during that season.

 

[kehs]

I didn't even realize that the cup Skyler was using for an ashtray was one of Walt's gifts.

That exchange was pretty good too. Skysky just begrudgingly saying yes to Walt "asking" her if it's okay to bring money in. Her just smoking it up.

Passive aggressiveness all around.

 

[-Pyromaniac-]

I enjoyed Walt asking her if it's ok, as if her response mattered, lol. What a polite and sweet husband.

 

[Fry]

ops, misread

The three people posting in that thread couldn't believe it.

LOL.

 

[The Mana Legend]

See, I liked Walt in this episode a lot more than the other ones. He didn't feel nearly as cartoonish as he did in the other ones. He still showed some humanity, but ramped up his assertiveness when he needed to. Unlike previous episodes, where he was just full-on dick mode.

 

[dave is ok]

What was the reaction to that? I can't recall the BB thread during that season.

The three people posting in that thread couldn't believe it.

 

[elkayes]

Breaking Skylar (that b§%) - Season 5, Part 1 - Mondays on GAF

I feel like this season will be a prime example of greed for money and power destroying every thing one ever loved. I feel sorry for Junior. good kid and his world will compeltly fall apart soon. Let´s hope RJ Mitte delivers when it´ll happen.

Walt in a year:

 

[Owed T'Alex]

Why did I think Lydia was Gus's widow?

 

[cousins]

Why do I think Lydia is going to be Jesse's gf?

fixed. I'm calling it now.

 

[Wiggum2007]

So did Gus have a family/kids or not?? Shit confuses me

 

[ToyMachine228]

2/3 of the people in this thread don't know what the word "evil" means. You can't even use it in the right context. Part of the greatness of this show and the characters in it is that most of the time, they are all navigating gray areas. Get a fucking grip.

 

[Persona7]

So did Gus have a family/kids or not?? Shit confuses me

He said that he did have kids in that episode where walt goes over for dinner.

No idea if it was true or not.

 

[snack]

fixed. I'm calling it now.

They'd look hella good together.

 

[MMaRsu]

What if Walt poisons skyky with the ricin??

Great episode, so goddamn tense! Heisenberg going straight baller buying those two cars haha.. I thought man Skyler is going insane.

Then she tries to drown herself and ask for attention.. man then that INTENSE scene with Walt and her.

Good Show, Jolly Good Show

 

[Tigel]

He said that he did have kids in that episode where walt goes over for dinner.

No idea if it was true or not.

There was kids toys in his house, so it most probably was.

 

[Ultimadrago]

Watching Scarface and a watch that goes "TICK TICK TICK."

Subtle.

That aside, I am glad to see more Breaking Bad each week.

 

[daw840]

Also, did we ever get confirmation that Gus was gay? I know it seemed like it was hinted at.

Not that it would affect him having kids mind you, just something I was thinking about.

 

[Plasmid]

:lol via reddit

There's so much foreshadowing in this episode im too scared. . i really don't want Walt dying this series, it always ruins series for me knowing a character will be axed.

 

[dave is ok]

So did Gus have a family/kids or not?? Shit confuses me

It's a gaping plot hole.

The first time Walt goes to Gus's house, there are kids toys everywhere. When Jesse goes over, it looks like he lives alone.

Whether the kids toys were deception to appeal to Walt or just a plan for the future the writers decided to abandon will probably never be revealed.

 

[Persona7]

You truly are the devil's advocate.
A guy has cancer isn't that deep in the business yet while Skylar revels in debauchery.
Did you only watch the last couple of seasons? Skylar was & remains a bitch since episode one.
Walt was still that science professor at heart at the point of Skylar's treacherous actions.
Skylar is clearly the broken lynch pin in the family dynamic. She has been the major catalyst (ranked ahead of illness) that caused Walt to truly live up to the title "Breaking Bad".

I can identify with a man trying to leave something behind for his families future, I cannot identify with a pregnant whore fucking around on her terminally ill husband. (nice touch downplaying that)
Perhaps if you Skylar Squires ever have a major medical tragedy occur & your wife fucks the next man & gives him hundreds of thousands of your dollars you would change your minds.
It's easy to call me a sociopath or moronic. I just hope you endure similar circumstances so I can see the hilarious future thread of how much of a villain your wife has become.....

Get real at the point of Skylar's major transgressions Walt was just a happy go lucky science geek cooking for money small time. His character is that of one that when pressure is on he will overcome with every atom of his being.
All the negative energy spewed into his lap has turned him more negative.


( you act as if Skylar didn't damn near beg Walt to be apart of his business when he left as told & separated it from family, Skylar wanted in on the act. She put herself in so deep that Saul is her lawyer as well.
She brought this upon herself, her character is that of a money hungry coward, who uses those around her for what they can offer. I have seen nothing genuine about her. She is just the dark cloud that pisses on everybody's parade & then says woe is me afterwards wallowing in her own self pity.)

WHY DID I HAVE TO GO BACK

 

[satriales]

Is there no podcast this week?

 

[Salaadin]

:lol via reddit

There's so much foreshadowing in this episode im too scared. . i really don't want Walt dying this series, it always ruins series for me knowing a character will be axed.

LOL!!


Whats with the podcast? I keep refreshing the page and nothing is there yet

 

[Zen]

Lots of people have always hated Skyler but I think part of it is because of the way her arc has been written. When she found out about Walt, she absolutely wouldn't even talk to him. Wouldn't let him see his children. When she found out that she could use Walt's money to help her brother in law and sister, she all the sudden thought that it was OK. Completely self serving and hypocritical.

But from there it was handled decently, she was inching her way into the fold, but then when Walt kills someone, who was threatening to kill not only him, but also her and his two children, she breaks down and thinks he's evil? No gray area, no subtle lack of trust, just mental breakdown? If Walt hadn't done what he did, his entire family would be dead. Period. Her reaction has been too rash, that's the way it was written. That's why people hate her. Because she completely fails to see anything other than "My husband killed people, he's a murder, he's evil, he's the Anti-Christ." When she should also see that he was acting in self defense, defense of their family. And never mind the fact that the people he killed were also, all murderers.

Exactly, she's just as self serving as Walt, but her capacity to do so is different. She's constantly trying to manipulate him the same way he lied to her, and she has had period of being mentally abusive to him also. It's weird that people don't see this or choose to just say 'Walt is worse'.

Walt is a scary man now, but Skylar did her part in helping to push him along. It wasn't 'fucking Ted', it was much more than that, but also that she told him specifically to hurt him. Especially this season she's displaying the same 'black and white' thinking that Walt has been, but worse in many ways. What Walt does is selfish now, but it started as sincere with personal benefits and had maintained that ay for some time. He killed a person that was going to kill him and his entire family, and Walt did not have the option of going to the police (like that would have saved him).

 

[-Pyromaniac-]

Yeah lack of podcast making me a sad camper.

 

[Sadsic]

so im expecting at this point the climax of this season walt killing skyler then using the cleaner to get the funk out of town

 

[-Pyromaniac-]

I'm guessing Walt gets word that Hank knows who he is and gets the fuck out of dodge, and then for some reason decides he has to go back and obviously mow down a lot of people for some reason with an M60.

Or Walt rats on the whole drug operation with some story he spins to Hank, and then he gets put there for witness protection, but once again goes back because he has to do something.

I really can't even predict it.

 

[kehs]

I keep thinking about this episode and small stuff.

Like Walt looking in the reflection before going into the house because he expected a huge surprise party.

Dude is so far off his rocker, it's scary.

 

[Fry]

This episode had a lot of small stuff to think about. Maybe some foreshadowing too.

 

[Zen]

Sheesh, some Skylar defenders in this thread, go rewatch the scene were Mike talks about sexism.

Lots of people have always hated Skyler but I think part of it is because of the way her arc has been written. When she found out about Walt, she absolutely wouldn't even talk to him. Wouldn't let him see his children. When she found out that she could use Walt's money to help her brother in law and sister, she all the sudden thought that it was OK. Completely self serving and hypocritical.

But from there it was handled decently, she was inching her way into the fold, but then when Walt kills someone, who was threatening to kill not only him, but also her and his two children, she breaks down and thinks he's evil? No gray area, no subtle lack of trust, just mental breakdown? If Walt hadn't done what he did, his entire family would be dead. Period. Her reaction has been too rash, that's the way it was written. That's why people hate her. Because she completely fails to see anything other than "My husband killed people, he's a murder, he's evil, he's the Anti-Christ." When she should also see that he was acting in self defense, defense of their family. And never mind the fact that the people he killed were also, all murderers.

Exactly, she's just as self serving as Walt, but her capacity to do so is different. She's constantly trying to manipulate him the same way he lied to her, and she has had prolonged periods of being mentally abusive to him also. In fact she has been waging a war on him for some time now. Not that he didn't have it coming.

Walt is a scary man now, but Skylar did her part in helping to push him along. It wasn't 'fucking Ted' ((and then telling him torture him), it has been much more than that. Especially this season she's displaying the same 'black and white' thinking that Walt has been, but worse in many ways. What Walt does is selfish now, but it started as sincere and more or less was maintained as such for some time. He killed a person that was going to kill him and his entire family, and Walt did not have the option of going to the police (like that would have saved him).

I'm pretty sure it's a calculated move on the part of the writers to show you mild character flaws in Skyler like these and smoking while pregnant so you can say, "HOW DARE SHE" and then realize that her husband is cooking meth, poisoned an innocent kid and is a multiple murderer, and is doing it entirely out of pride.

So much more than just the thing with Ted.

Poisoning the kid
So what? and before you flip out,think about it. Do you really think that Walt, Mr Science, would have given the child enough to kill him? Or would have just guessed at the amount and hoped for the best? Walt was staring down the barrel of a gun and needed to survive. He didn't poison the child fatally, nor did he ever intend to. He was facing certain death and the death of his wife and two children, what would you do?

Murderer
Out of self defense with the exception of the other chemist, and to save Jesse's life in season 4. It's like people are applying a moral standard to him that they would a normal person with no external threats. He's killing people that are trying to kill him. People that he would not have killed otherwise.

Pride

Wrong. Pride is why he turned down the offer from Grey Matter, pride is not why he cooks meth. Ego and selfishness were almost always a part of why he decided to cook meth, but the end motivator was for his family for a long time even though other things got mixed up in that. Now, it's his job, more or less, and Skylar has been doing her best (rightly or wrongly) to take away his family, for a long time before his 'death' last season.

 

[Dominican Power]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUeNOmJpJfw

 

[kehs]

maharg can you change the title of this thread to Sociopaths Unite |OT| and we can start fresh with a new BB thread?

 

[-Pyromaniac-]

maharg can you change the title of this thread to Sociopaths Unite |OT| and we can start fresh with a new BB thread?

I agree. Those Skyler fans really need their own thread.

 

[kehs]

I agree. Those Skyler fans really need their own thread.

This thread is going to be disastrous when Skysky martyrs herself for her kids sake.

 

[-Pyromaniac-]

This thread is going to be disastrous when Skysky martyrs herself for her kids sake.

would be surprised if she did that considering how much of an attention queen she is being lately.

 

[kehs]

<3 Pyro

 

[Plasmid]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUeNOmJpJfw

oh my god

 

[Uriah]

I can't believe people still try to justify Walt poisoning Brock. I mean he poisoned a kid. You can't justify that.

 

[-Pyromaniac-]

<3 Pyro

 

[CrankyJay]

:lol via reddit

There's so much foreshadowing in this episode im too scared. . i really don't want Walt dying this series, it always ruins series for me knowing a character will be axed.

lol

 

[keltickennedy]

I can't see Walt poisoning Skylar. I still think something is going to go down where they have to go into hiding. Whoever is after them ends up finding them and killing everyone with only Walt surviving. Hence he comes back for revenge with heavy firepower. Goes out guns blazing Scarface style.

 

[Mindlog]

Pride

Wrong. Pride is why he turned down the offer from Grey Matter, pride is not why he cooks meth. Ego and selfishness were almost always a part of why he decided to cook meth, but the end motivator was for his family for a longlong time even though other things got mixed up in that. Now, it's his job, more or less, and Skylar has been doing her best (rightly or wrongly) to take away his family from him.

I emphatically disagree with that. Walter has had multiple opportunities to legitimately help his family. The entire reason he cooks is because he's in charge and his product is the best around.

Hell, Hank wouldn't have even pursued his investigation without being pushed by Walt's foolish pride.

Hank explains he gave up investigating Gale further, but lauds his genius. A prideful Walter insists Gale was not a genius, but was rather copying off someone else's work. This convinces Hank to re-open the case, where he notices that the strictly vegan Gale had notes scribbled on a napkin from Los Pollos Hermanos in his apartment.

If Walt's end motivator is his family I really have to wonder why he's using the meth money to lease Junior a brand new 2012 Challenger R/T with 5.7l v8/375 HP, 25 hwy mpg available at a local dealer near you.

 

[Cornballer]

Content Roundup:

Reviews:
- Sepinwall
- Onion A|V Club
- Maureen Ryan
- Rolling Stone
- Slate.com
- Salon.com
- Ken Tucker
- Poniewozik
- Grantland
- Esquire
- Matt Zoller Seitz
- Alyssa Rosenberg
- The Atlantic

Other Content:
- Inside Episode 504 (youtube vid)
- The Making of Episode 4 (youtube vid)
- Sneak peek at Episode 505 *please spoiler tag any discussion* (youtube)
- Breaking Bad Insider Podcast not up yet
- Promo for Episode 5 *please spoiler tag any discussion* (youtube)
- AMC Content: DEA Evidence Board
- Sneak peek #2 at Episode 505 *please spoiler tag any discussion* (youtube vid)
- NPR Fresh Air: Dean Norris On Playing Good In 'Breaking Bad' *spoilers*
- Rolling Stone: 'Breaking Bad' Q&A: Laura Fraser on the Mystery of Lydia
- NY Magazine: Video: The Wit and Wisdom of Breaking Bad&#8217;s Mike

Please remember to spoiler tag any and all sneak peek and promo discussion. Thank you.

 

[Zen]

I can't believe people still try to justify Walt poisoning Brock. I mean he poisoned a kid. You can't justify that.

If given the choice between temporarily disabling a child with no resulting long term effects or the death of three innocent people, you would let three innocent people (including a 2 month old baby girl).

Good to know.