Seriously. 14 cents a pizza is all it costs to get people health insurance? Jesus fuck guys, why did we never do this to begin with? I have more pennies in my ass for christs sake.
Papa Johns CEO wants to raise Pizza prices in order to offset Obamacare costs
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Seriously. 14 cents a pizza is all it costs to get people health insurance? Jesus fuck guys, why did we never do this to begin with? I have more pennies in my ass for christs sake.
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FutureZombie
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A company is going to try to offset costs. That is your article. Hard hitting journalism.
SouthernDragon
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He's whining about a potential 14-15 cent increase on a product with 40%+ margins.
That's what's dickish about this. Providing his employees with adequate healthcare will have a negligible impact on his business, but he bitches about it anyways.
Rentahamster
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Translation: We're gonna change our operations in order to adjust to new regulations and taxes so that we can still make as much money as possible, since, being a business, our goal is to make as much money as we can under the law.
They will try to offset the new costs they will incur due to new legislation. Everyone does this.
Just because the article decided to include the dude's campaign contributions that all of a sudden makes his actions malicious. There will be Obama-donating CEOs who are gonna do the same thing.
Mgoblue201
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Since the ACA doesn't include an employer mandate, I was curious about the actual source of costs for businesses in the bill (the article does not specify). It turns out that the employer of a large business (more than 50 people) has to pay a penalty for not providing adequate coverage to its employees. I'm surprised this part of the bill even passed, since it places more costs on businesses and doesn't appear (at least to me) to weaken the fact that employers still provide a significant amount of their workers' health spending, which is a system that shouldn't exist in the first place.
1. No. Just no. Just because you don't agree with his views does not make his pizza taste any less delicious
2. I can already get much better deals from Papa Johns than the other two so even though they will increase their prices it'll still be cheaper (and better tasting)
3. Seriously? Get real! This is what all businesses do. Fuck! I just shipped something through Fedex. What is this gas surcharge?!? Wait!! So because they're paying more for gas they are going to shift their cost to me?!! THat's not fair. Waaaah!!!
4. I think you should.
$5 pizzas = da bomb
Vicetrailia
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Dude is evil, lol. Complaining and holding pizza prices at ransomed so he can anger customers into boycotting healthcare so they don't have to pay a penny more for socialism. Fuck him.
But Papa John wouldn't have a private golf course on his property if he had to pay $0.15 more per pizza!
Think!
metalslimer
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Go listen to the this american life episode on how our health system formed. It's fucking insane how we came to the point and still are at the point where employer's are such a huge part of the the system. But until the Republican's get over themselves and realize than a NHS styled system is the only way we are going to get out of this hole businesses will have to suffer instead if we want to give adequate health insurance to the public.
The penalties are for full time employees so I'm not sure what's all the bitching about from him.
metalslimer
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CFA never said anything about raising their prices to fight gay marriage. I have a feeling this could backfire.
Glorified G
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I would be so fat if I lived in the us.
If I were running a business, I am not sure I would have opening shared my view of how Obamacare was affecting my profit margins. It makes me look like I am a greedy ass who doesn't want to fork up 14 cents for my employees. I thought Walmart had it bad, but at least Walmart execs don't talk about it publicly.
evil solrac v3.0
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and this is why this country will always be held back. always.
POWERSPHERE
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Every day, another moron states a case against good healthcare. So weird.
I'm not saying he's not an asshole on some level (because he is), but if we're talking like 1% change in price for things to insure all but some 20 million people in the USA have health insurance, it makes it all the more frustrating that people are complaining about the cost of this.
New kind of marketing, got to throw shit against the way and see what sticks.
KuwabaraTheMan
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Well, Papa Johns pizza is garbage at any rate, so this is no great loss.
This guy really comes across like a smug douchebag.
This guy really comes across like a smug douchebag.
My thoughts to the letter.
MasterOfPastures
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15 cents is what the good standing health of a US employee costs. And he doesn't want to pay that.
I need to get back in the kitchen and make my own pizza friday nights.
I need to get back in the kitchen and make my own pizza friday nights.
So true. Remember the days when you would graduate from College (or High School evel), get accepted to a job, then stay loyal to that company for your entire career, working your way up due to experience and hard work, and retiring with a pension paid by that company. Where the company cared about you and what you could bring to the company and wanted to take care of you so that you and your family could live a decent and happy life?
I don't either. It was long gone by the time I grew up. But those days did exist....for a couple of minutes.
Nowadays the apologists among us will applaud a company's attempt to be as profitable as possible by screwing their employees at every opportunity, because hey...Capitalism means making as much profit as possible no matter the price. Screw being loyal to your employees.
titiklabingapat
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I miss the days when CEOs actually cared for their employees. When you know, they understand that their employee's wealth is directly proportional to how well the company(and others) does in the long term.
EatinOlives
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I'm pretty sure the outrage isn't coming from the actual price hike, it's the fact that the price hike is coming seemingly out of spite more than anything.
They can easily afford the extra expense if it's that negligible, but the fact that they're going out of their way to raise it by that amount and say "SEE! THIS IS WHAT OBAMACARE GOT YOU!!!" is really sad.
You want to charge me $2.25 delivery fee, barely pass any of that onto your delivery driver still asking consumers for a tip for the driver that you KNOW are going to be reluctant to give and you want to threaten your consumer for .14 cents?
Fuck off asshole. Take care of your damn employees you greedy ass bastards, cry me a river you are now being forced to.
"Oh no, I can't buy my 100th fucking Camaro because mary the driver can now get that lump checked."
Fuck off asshole. Take care of your damn employees you greedy ass bastards, cry me a river you are now being forced to.
"Oh no, I can't buy my 100th fucking Camaro because mary the driver can now get that lump checked."
Zoe
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Exactly. I could afford to pay whatever paltry price increase, but it shouldn't be coming on the back of a political ultimatum.
I'm sorry but it doesn't have a 40% margin. The ingredients do. But a huge majority of th at margin is eaten up by the cost of doing business. As I said earlier, they make 5ish% margins in the final reckoning.
Saying otherwise makes your argument weak and easy to refute.
Somebody just remarked earlier how suprised he was that their margins could be so bad.
Mgoblue201
Won't stop picking the right nation
I remember that episode, though it's been a long time since I've listened to it. If I recall, the US system arose by accident out of some quirk in government policy during the post-war years. I'm not sure on the specifics.
So basically it's an alternate reality version of myself? Interesting.
Wait, all this fuss over Obamacare and we are talking 15 to 20 centers per order? Heck that really seems worth it to me honestly. Thanks Papa Johns for putting that into perspective.
Oracle Dragon
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What kind of math is it called, that allows for everyone to be in the top 1% I wonder...
Mitt Romney said:
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Amazing. Absolutely amazing
NullPointer
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So true.
The exceptions are pretty much Eisenhower (NASA, the FAA, and the Interstate) and Bush Sr (Americans with Disabilities Act)
bobbychalkers
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I really don't like this trend of food politics........ridiculous.
Ironically, the only two restaurants on my campus are a Chick-Fil-A and a Papa Johns.
Ironically, the only two restaurants on my campus are a Chick-Fil-A and a Papa Johns.
I don't have a problem with them passing costs to their customers. Its what they should do, if anything the cost of their pizza would now more accurately reflects its true cost since they can't externalize health care entirely onto their employees.
The thing that angers me is the suggestion that .14 cents a pizza is too great for health care. I am sure as CEO he has a handsome salary and health plan. Probably everyone in corporate as well. Surely it would be in his shareholders best interest to reduce those and pass the money back to them right? Oh...
"Fuck you, I've got mine" is alive and well I see.
Really this is a text book example of why healthcare shouldn't be tied to employment in the first place. Let's unburden our entrepreneurs and job creators with the costs of employee healthcare entirely. Imagine not having extra people in HR to manage policies, imagine payroll not having to account for flex plans or taxes. Just have public universal care and a huge burden is lifted from our economic engines !
The thing that angers me is the suggestion that .14 cents a pizza is too great for health care. I am sure as CEO he has a handsome salary and health plan. Probably everyone in corporate as well. Surely it would be in his shareholders best interest to reduce those and pass the money back to them right? Oh...
"Fuck you, I've got mine" is alive and well I see.
Really this is a text book example of why healthcare shouldn't be tied to employment in the first place. Let's unburden our entrepreneurs and job creators with the costs of employee healthcare entirely. Imagine not having extra people in HR to manage policies, imagine payroll not having to account for flex plans or taxes. Just have public universal care and a huge burden is lifted from our economic engines !
I don't have a problem with them passing costs to their customers. Its what they should do, if anything the cost of their pizza would now more accurately reflects its true cost since they can't externalize health care entirely onto their employees.
The thing that angers me is the suggestion that .14 cents a pizza is too great for health care. I am sure as CEO he has a handsome salary and health plan. Probably everyone in corporate as well. Surely it would be in his shareholders best interest to reduce those and pass the money back to them right? Oh...
"Fuck you, I've got mine" is alive and well I see.
Really this is a text book example of why healthcare shouldn't be tied to employment in the first place. Let's unburden our entrepreneurs and job creators with the costs of employee healthcare entirely. Imagine not having extra people in HR to manage policies, imagine payroll not having to account for flex plans or taxes. Just have public universal care and a huge burden is lifted from our economic engines !
Scola for president
This is so dumb. Every major chain restaurant/store is owned by crazy people. Domino's was sold to BAIN CAPITAL before it went public. Their former CEO and Manager, but still Chairman is David Brandon.
Pizza Hut is owned by Yum Brands (which also owns KFC and Taco Bell, among other smaller chains). David C. Novak is the CEO, Chairman, President and Chairman of the Executive & Finance Committee. He's also been the independent Director of JP MORGAN CHASE. He's also a director for Bank one.
Little Caeser's are owned by a couple who owns just about every sports team and casino in Michigan.
The point is, who gives a fuck? Just about everything you own that isn't made in front of you or made locally is part of some giant corporation run by people like these. If you're going to boycott one, you need to boycott them all. And that just isn't feasible, now is it? Everyone is friends with people that have radically different views (or at least should be), but if they are a good friend, they are a good friend. Restaurants should be judged on their food, not by ownership. If they have a good product, I'm not worried about their political leanings unless it is something extreme like " For every chicken sandwhich you buy, we kill a gay for free!".
People complain so much about everything being political, but they keep it going and make it worse by being "outraged" at things they will never think about again. It's just a stupid cycle. This shit comes with the territory of giant chains. And it always has. This is nothing new at all.
Pizza Hut is owned by Yum Brands (which also owns KFC and Taco Bell, among other smaller chains). David C. Novak is the CEO, Chairman, President and Chairman of the Executive & Finance Committee. He's also been the independent Director of JP MORGAN CHASE. He's also a director for Bank one.
Little Caeser's are owned by a couple who owns just about every sports team and casino in Michigan.
The point is, who gives a fuck? Just about everything you own that isn't made in front of you or made locally is part of some giant corporation run by people like these. If you're going to boycott one, you need to boycott them all. And that just isn't feasible, now is it? Everyone is friends with people that have radically different views (or at least should be), but if they are a good friend, they are a good friend. Restaurants should be judged on their food, not by ownership. If they have a good product, I'm not worried about their political leanings unless it is something extreme like " For every chicken sandwhich you buy, we kill a gay for free!".
People complain so much about everything being political, but they keep it going and make it worse by being "outraged" at things they will never think about again. It's just a stupid cycle. This shit comes with the territory of giant chains. And it always has. This is nothing new at all.
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