Salvor.Hardin
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Not going to begrudge the guy for adding 15cents to the cost of a pizza. If anything, there should be a separate franchise-pizza VAT simply to discourage people from wasting their money on that shit.
Papa Johns CEO wants to raise Pizza prices in order to offset Obamacare costs
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Byakuya769
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I've been to a few regional chains that were better, but Papa John's pizza is consistently better than the roll of the dice you get with PizzaHutt and Dominoes.
Hesemonni
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So companies are not allowed to move increased costs into prices?
Company = non-profit charity organization?
Since this is the current pizza thread, pro tip is that you can get a one topping pizza from Dominoes for $3.99 (carryout). It's not the normal one, it's a rectangular pizza. I think the way they do the crust for it actually tastes better than their normal pizzas. I don't think they really advertise this pizza but if you call or go in there and ask for it, should have it.
Inferno313
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so my school raised tuition by almost $700 to offset Obamacare. Did anyone else's tuition go up?
morningbus
Serious Sam is a wicked gahbidge series for chowdaheads.
Where is the angry misspelled Facebook screencap from idiot angry with Obama over this?
Netrunner2k2
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Tried this the other day...actually not too bad really. Alas, I don't know their political agenda. WHAT WILL I DO!
Looks like Saxton Hale opened a pizza joint.
Yeah, I'll give him that.
This is a really poor thing to say though. Hopefully consumers are wise enough to avoid Papa John's for this reason. (They probably won't)
PhoenixDark
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Honesty this will just make me buy more pizza from Papa Johns. Not only will I have the satisfaction of solid pizza with good ingredients (their Roma tomatoes are stellar), I'll know I'm helping some dude or lady get health insurance. Sounds like a win win to me
I live in Michigan, Papa Johns is the best pizza place close to me
I live in Michigan, Papa Johns is the best pizza place close to me
DietRob
i've been begging for over 5 years.
I think the negativity comes from yet another CEO taking a strong political stance and saying this to win some political capital instead of just ya know, doing it.
If he wouldn't have opened his mouth and let the diarrhea come spewing out I doubt anyone would have noticed or cared about the 15 or 20 cents.
i still think this entire thing is bullshit. Franchise business owners would be separate from Papa Johns corporate, and you need 50 full time employees at a business to get to where you would have to supply insurance or pay a fine. I fail to see any Papa Johns franchise that employ's 50 full time employees... and if papa johns corporate doesn't already offer health insurance to its full time employee's, then... shame on them
All Obamacare is is an excuse for corporations to pass off its costs to its employee's and customers. Most employers used the excuse of the recession in 2008 to slash employee benefits, and under the guise of Obamacare will be doing the same.
All Obamacare is is an excuse for corporations to pass off its costs to its employee's and customers. Most employers used the excuse of the recession in 2008 to slash employee benefits, and under the guise of Obamacare will be doing the same.
Interfectum
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There's road kill in Michigan isn't there?
How exactly does the health care law make his pizzas cost more? I was under the impression that the health care law just opens up more options for people who can't afford insurance. It also penalizes companies that don't offer insurance to their employees. Papa John's should be offering that to their employees anyway.
You just answered your own question with this. And yes they should be, morally, but businesses and corporations are amoral creatures that only care about their bottom line and squeezing more profits out. Literally a business has one duty and that's to get as much money as they can doing as little as they can. Most businesses will follow this logic, and if they don't then another business will overtake the business they could have got through lower prices, etc. That is why healthcare shouldn't be tied up in private industry.
DietRob
i've been begging for over 5 years.
i fail to see how Papa Johns corporate could not offer health insurance to its full time employees. I've read that franchises are not relevant to the overall business and count as a seperate "business", which would need to hit the 50 full time employee mark, and unless i'm underestimating the size of a papa johns franchise, 50 full time employee's is crazy.
Zoe
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The only thing I can guess is instead of raising the employee contribution however much it needs to, they're passing this directly to consumers to incite more votes against Obama.
DietRob
i've been begging for over 5 years.
But then they wouldn't be making a strong political statement and getting all this free publicity. Can't have that!
If there isn't already, soon there will be a Papa Johns' Screw Obamacare Pizza Party day! Think of all those profits!
andthebeatgoeson
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For the CEO to say he will pass the costs onto consumers is a bad management decision. For them to ask drivers to take a smaller salary and depend on the kindness of the customers is a bad management decision. Just because it's common doesn't make it a bad decision or a bad strategy.
And count me as another who loves Costco's pizza. What would be 15 dollars at the main pizza chains (XL or whatever) costs 7.
radios shipping overview
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Even though I live in NYC, I kinda miss Little Caesar's hot-and-ready. It tasted better and was a way better value than what you get from your average neighborhood greasy pizza joint here.
Wrong.
The health care bill has exemptions and tax credits for businesses under certain levels of employees and a certain level of revenues and profits.
35% tax credit for businesses with fewer than 25 employees that offer coverage, for instance. And that's in addition to the tax exemptions associated with the expenses for the coverage.
Come on, it's been years since the bill was passed, and it's not like the bill was rushed through congress, either.
You've had plenty of time to read it, or even just a basic outline of some of the highlights.
No excuses. Stop being lazy about informing yourself. And this goes for everyone, including myself.
We all need to do a better job on keeping informed about policies and law.
I'm gonna try them soon.
Been doing the same thing with this chain called Pizza Patron for a while, but a Little Ceasars moved in down the street. Going to see who has the best large pepperoni I can have in my hands in literally three minutes.
timmytheman123
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Papa Johns > Dominos >> Little Ceasars. Any other opinion is invalid. Wal Mart pizza even shits all over Dominos that stuff is delicious.
Phoenix
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I'm pretty sure that's not the ONLY reason they raised tuition. That may be all they state, but tuitions have been going up nationwide by significant margins.
Tried this the other day...actually not too bad really. Alas, I don't know their political agenda. WHAT WILL I DO!
I actually think Republicans didn't like that chain because they'll accept payment in pesos.
Most franchise owners own several stores not just one.
Synth_floyd
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STFU with the politics and just make my food.
EternalDarko
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If the republicans gain power, will he lower the price i wonder. Un-bloody likely, douche-bag.
Zoe
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Most franchise stores have mostly part time workers.
Is this statement supposed to cause some furor? Oh no, 15 cents more on pizza. Not to mention his last statement isn't exactly going to cause many people to empathize with him. He admits he doesn't give a fuck about the consumer or employees and only cares about the shareholders.
You'd also be eating disgusting pizza.
Then we should trade.
I have 2 within walking distance of me..
And don't really care for their pizza that much.
Wat? Not sure if srs. Even our average pizza joint owns the unholy shit out of any chain. Damn son I am disappoint.
Half and half
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Flip-flop?
Pachterballs
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a post about $0.15 - $0.20?
Even if YOU as consumer ate 100/year of them, it'd be $20/year. Nominal.
I really don't think that's that bad.
At least he makes his intentions clear; you'll probably find price creep in all sectors once obamacare happens. But you know what, it'd be good for everyone in the long term
Even if YOU as consumer ate 100/year of them, it'd be $20/year. Nominal.
I really don't think that's that bad.
At least he makes his intentions clear; you'll probably find price creep in all sectors once obamacare happens. But you know what, it'd be good for everyone in the long term
Blackace
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BassForever
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As someone who works in fast food, everyone here seems to think .15-.20 cents isn't a big deal, but you'd be surprised how many American such a small thing impacts. I can't even begin to tell you how many times I've had customers yell at me about how we're "ripping them off" cancel their order and drive off because the price of a value meal went up by .11 cents (from 4.99 with tax to 5.10 with tax). Papa Johns also already has the most expensive pizza of the major pizza chains (pizza hut, dominoes, papa johns, and little ceasars).
speculawyer
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A nice thing is that he seems to have figured out how and why it works.
He also noted that he told the class that he was "cool with" more Americans getting health care and that under the health care law "I get to provide health insurance and I'm not at a competitive disadvantage ... our competitors are going to have to do the same thing."
He also noted that he told the class that he was "cool with" more Americans getting health care and that under the health care law "I get to provide health insurance and I'm not at a competitive disadvantage ... our competitors are going to have to do the same thing."
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