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Breaking Bad - Season 5, Part 1 - Sundays on AMC

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Some how I don't see Jesse reverting back to his cry baby ways with the death of this kid. It's spilled milk and he should treat it as such.
 
If you think about it, there was no reason to kill the kid. The heist was over with. Where ever that train was headed, they wouldn't have found out the methylamine was missing. Just that it was diluted and like Walt said the blame would be placed on China. Todd didn't even have to kill the kid, just wave him good bye.
what about the chance that he goes to police and tells that he saw something bad happening, describes how they look. Bald man, goatee....
 
Some how I don't see Jesse reverting back to his cry baby ways with the death of this kid. It's spilled milk and he should treat it as such.

I dunno man Jesse is the kind of person who could be haunted by something like this for the rest of his life.

He may have just been thrown over a line he never meant to cross...for whatever reason. Honestly, I think if you asked Jesse if he would rather go to jail or murder a child he would choose the former.
 
At this stage, I'm pretty sure Hank is close to figuring it all out. He was able to have his hunch about Gus backed up with evidence. I think that him pointing out Walt's watch and his comment later about "as long as you can afford it"(pp) is pointing him in that direction.

I guess it's to be expected, we're only a few episodes away from the show end. It reminds me of what's happening in another series
Dexter
, but those guys have to fill up 2(?) more seasons compared to a few episodes of endgame for BB.
 
If you think about it, there was no reason to kill the kid. The heist was over with. Where ever that train was headed, they wouldn't have found out the methylamine was missing. Just that it was diluted and like Walt said the blame would be placed on China. Todd didn't even have to kill the kid, just wave him good bye.

We have no idea how long that kid was there watching. For all we know, he could have witnessed the entire heist from beginning to end. But the real question is whether he was even able to interpret what he had just witnessed. All he saw was a trio of men pumping something from one tank to a mysterious hole in the ground, and then high-fiving each other at the end. Jesse could have made up some dumb story to explain what they were doing there and the kid would have probably believed it, but I suppose Todd wasn't going to leave it to chance. Wonder what Mike would have done given his earlier advice to Walt and Jesse regarding witnesses...
 
God I love Bill Burr.

"Hey, any of you guys know about engines? Oh, of course you do. That's why they call you an engineer, right?"
 
At this stage, I'm pretty sure Hank is close to figuring it all out. He was able to have his hunch about Gus backed up with evidence. I think that him pointing out Walt's watch and his comment later about "as long as you can afford it"(pp) is pointing him in that direction.

I guess it's to be expected, we're only a few episodes away from the show end. It reminds me of what's happening in another series
Dexter
, but those guys have to fill up 2(?) more seasons compared to a few episodes of endgame for BB.

I still think Hank is completely clueless about Walt. The pieces are there, but he isn't putting them together.

Pretty safe bet to say that he will eventually.

Watching the episode again, the music is freaking fantastic. So effective during the heist scene.

The music when crying Walt transitioned to Heisenberg in Hank's office was amazing
 
It just comes down to the fact that Walt and Jessie gave Todd the "You better make sure NOBODY finds out about this. 0.o (evil eyes)".

Todd was just trying to impress his new hardcore gangster friends.
 
I think what hes asking is wouldn't they be stealing diluted methlymine since they were pouring in water as they were pumping it out? Im guessing the answer is that the water would stay at the top due to different densities or something? Not a science guy though, and that seems weird considering that they said the methlymine was water based.



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Methylamine is a gas, I assume that in the show they are using the standard 40/60% ratio of CH3NH2 to H20. However, Methylamine is less dense that water, so in adding water, the water would tend to go to the bottom until fully mixed. But in such a large container as a railcar, the water mixing and moving to the bottom would not be that noticeable right away.

Go here and order yourself some Methylamine solution 40 wt. % in H2O.
 
Watching the episode again, the music is freaking fantastic. So effective during the heist scene.

I've been waiting for someone to liken the heist sequence to Shadow of the Colossus: the way the music accelerates as the heist advances, and crescendos when the train starts, with Todd still riding it—trying to land the killing blow.
 
We have no idea how long that kid was there watching. For all we know, he could have witnessed the entire heist from beginning to end. But the real question is whether he was even able to interpret what he had just witnessed. All he saw was a trio of men pumping something from one tank to a mysterious hole in the ground, and then high-fiving each other at the end. Jesse could have made up some dumb story to explain what they were doing there and the kid would have probably believed it, but I suppose Todd wasn't going to leave it to chance. Wonder what Mike would have done given his earlier advice to Walt and Jesse regarding witnesses...

Chances are Mike would of told the kid something then he would have left. Only reason why Jesse even thought about killing Gus was the fact of killing kids. Mike has a granddaughter same age as that kid. If you were a kid and seen that happen if you told anyone would anyone believe it?
 
I thought it was easily one of the best episodes on the show. Everything from Walt being manipulative to the heist to the dead kid. Walt should be working for the CIA as a spy. Dude has the brains and the behavior to lie.

Also, was I only the only person thinking about Todd being trained by Seth Rogen? Someone will get the reference. :P
 
who else expects an ending like in "Death Note".
I know, i know, hard to compare, but I feel thats the ending were getting.

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+ the stuff he was doing in hanks office is insane imo
 
Walt to be captured by Chinese at end of Part 1

Dear god...Having to put up with 24 Season 6 two times in one lifetime?

EDIT: Also, I really like how they've been transitioning from one episode to another this season.

Hazard Pay to Fifty-One had "The next barrel is going to cost you" in reference to the next barrel they possibly costing Lydia's life (if not for the intervention of Jesse).
Fifty-One to Dead Freight had "Nothing stops this train, nothing" in reference to the train heist.
And presumably Dead Freight to Buyout has (it's from Skyler in this episode but I'll spoiler tag it anyway just in case)
"Out Burying Bodies?", possibly in reference to the child
.

Also of note is the Lydia said that there was a three mile Dead Zone and there is three more episodes left in the first half of the season. Probably just coincidental though.
 
I still think Hank is completely clueless about Walt. The pieces are there, but he isn't putting them together.

Pretty safe bet to say that he will eventually.

I think he knows there's something more than meets the eye for sure. When Marie told him about the affair he brought up the extra phone, which hasn't really been a major factor for a long time. The gears are turning, he just doesn't quite know what he has on his hands yet.
 
The kid had to die, unfortunately. Wrong place, wrong time. It was that or everyone potentially goes to prison, or leaves town on the run with little money. Todd knows this, he's criminally smart and clearly understands the consequences. Like Mike said, successful heists have no witnesses. We know the right decision, morally, as do they (or Todd, in particular). But the human mind has an amazing way to "justify" incredible actions when it comes to one's survival.
 
Kind of weird to see some of the reviews saying they did not like this episode all that much. I thought it was fantastic and not just because of those last 30 seconds.

I am going to be smart and avoid the promos from now on though. I don't want to know anything about what is going to happen next. The perfect moment to bail out on stuff like that but I am sure that when I read back this topic there will be spoilers anyway. :p
 
I think he knows there's something more than meets the eye for sure. When Marie told him about the affair he brought up the extra phone, which hasn't really been a major factor for a long time. The gears are turning, he just doesn't quite know what he has on his hands yet.

I don't think he has a clue.

The only legitimate connection he's ever made between Walt and the pure meth was way back in Season 1, when he tracked the confiscated gas mask to Walt's school, and that was a rudimentary connection. Hank still perceives Walt as a harmless, timid, beta male, and until Hank can mentally re-write his cop-born notion of what constitutes a criminal drug dealer, he'll never cast a suspecting light on Walt.
 
I don't think he has a clue.

The only legitimate connection he's ever made between Walt and the pure meth was way back in Season 1, when he tracked the confiscated gas mask to Walt's school, and that was a rudimentary connection. Hank still perceives Walt as a harmless, timid, beta male, and until Hank can mentally re-write his cop-born notion of what constitutes a criminal drug dealer, he'll never cast a suspecting light on Walt.
Didn't he have that one convo with Walt where he tried to make him confess something? Felt like he knew the whole thing really
 
I don't think he has a clue.

The only legitimate connection he's ever made between Walt and the pure meth was way back in Season 1, when he tracked the confiscated gas mask to Walt's school, and that was a rudimentary connection. Hank still perceives Walt as a harmless, timid, beta male, and until Hank can mentally re-write his cop-born notion of what constitutes a criminal drug dealer, he'll never cast a suspecting light on Walt.

I didn't say he suspects anything about Walt doing anything criminal. But he suspects something and he's thinking about it and holding on to puzzle pieces. I dunno how you can miss that the show is telling us exactly this every time Hank 'notices' something about Walt, whether it's remembering the extra phone or pointing out his watch or his car. The show is basically screaming at you "HANK IS THINKING ABOUT WHAT'S WRONG WITH WALT".
 
I don't think he has a clue.

The only legitimate connection he's ever made between Walt and the pure meth was way back in Season 1, when he tracked the confiscated gas mask to Walt's school, and that was a rudimentary connection. Hank still perceives Walt as a harmless, timid, beta male, and until Hank can mentally re-write his cop-born notion of what constitutes a criminal drug dealer, he'll never cast a suspecting light on Walt.

I can't find it, but there was an interview with Dean Norris last year where he said that he's playing Hank as if he already knows. Frankly, I don't see it, but that's what the man said. Gilligan hasn't told him either way.


Edit—Found it:
TVLINE: Coming out of that moment, is any tiny part of Hank thinking that Walt could possibly be Heisenberg?

Dean Norris: I think that subconsciously Hank thinks that exactly. I don’t know how much really he wants to allow himself to believe it, but as the season goes on … there’s some sort of a process there, like, “What am I going to do?” There are all kinds of things in play, including Hank being partly culpable and having this guy so close to him, that I don’t know that he wants to come right out and say it, but I think that he’s feeling it. Especially now that we’ve got the end game in sight [with next season announced as Breaking Bad's last], Vince Gilligan [the series' creator] has said outright that we’re going to deal with that issue of Hank finding out what Walt’s up to. I don’t think we’ll skirt it.
 
I don't really know why Hank would leave Walt unattended with the blinds shut in his office if he knew. Unless he wanted Walt to make a mistake and place a bug that he can find or something.

He definitely knows there's things that Walt's hiding though. The evidence is piling on.
 
I don't think he has a clue.

The only legitimate connection he's ever made between Walt and the pure meth was way back in Season 1, when he tracked the confiscated gas mask to Walt's school, and that was a rudimentary connection. Hank still perceives Walt as a harmless, timid, beta male, and until Hank can mentally re-write his cop-born notion of what constitutes a criminal drug dealer, he'll never cast a suspecting light on Walt.

He has no idea yet but all the little things are going to add up. The second phone, the two cars, the new watch, the talk last season with Walt's ego coming out at dinner, and all the little close calls where all of the sudden Hank loses a step on the trail. Hank just needs one big thing and this can be it. Skyler will some how assume he killed this kid and go straight to Hank or kill herself with a letter to Hank.


I don't really know why Hank would leave Walt unattended with the blinds shut in his office if he knew. Unless he wanted Walt to make a mistake and place a bug that he can find or something.

He didn't want to show his brother in law in his office crying.
 
I don't really know why Hank would leave Walt unattended with the blinds shut in his office if he knew. Unless he wanted Walt to make a mistake and place a bug that he can find or something.
I just took it as Hank being embarrassed to have Walt crying in there and uncomfortable about the whole situation, so he closed the blinds and went for coffee while Walt got himself together. Didn't surprise me too much.
 
Yes, I know that. I'm just saying that if Hank knew Walt was a criminal, it wouldn't be wise to leave them closed while he leaves Walt alone. That's why I don't think he knows just yet.

If Hank knew Walt would be arrested already. Hank been looking for him for the past year.
 
I just took it as Hank being embarrassed to have Walt crying in there and uncomfortable about the whole situation, so he closed the blinds and went for coffee while Walt got himself together. Didn't surprise me too much.
pretty sure that's exactly what happened. Closed the blinds so walt can have some privacy while crying.

Yes, I know that. I'm just saying that if Hank knew Walt was a criminal, it wouldn't be wise to leave them closed while he leaves Walt alone. That's why I don't think he knows just yet.
thus hank doesn't know!
 
Unless Walt is planning to remove the wire, it was a bad move by him. If Hank finds it out, there will be no doubts left in his mind that he's hiding something big.

It was pretty dangerous what he did in his office. Dare I say, more dangerous than the heist.
 
Yes, I know that. I'm just saying that if Hank knew Walt was a criminal, it wouldn't be wise to leave them closed while he leaves Walt alone. That's why I don't think he knows just yet.

I don't think it's the case, but the show does actually leave open the possibility that Hank knows and let Walt plant the bug. We don't see anything that happens in the office while it's bugged and we're hearing conversations, so for all we know the conversation with the other PD about planting trackers on the barrels was a ruse. I actually found it a bit suspicious, to be honest.

Again, I don't think that's the case, but it is left open by the show.
 
The scene that was done PERFECTLY was how Walt handled Hank coming into the office just as he was finishing the placement of the listening device.

The angle, showing us Hank's POV and exactly what he's about to see / not see, and then switching to Walt as he nonchalantly transitions to admiring the photo... PERFECT. :)
 
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