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Breaking Bad - Season 5, Part 1 - Sundays on AMC

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When Season 4 ended - I really felt like it was the end of the series for me. Every question I had, it answered for the most part. I really had no desire to see where else the story went - because I felt it wrapped up completely. For me at least.

When Season 5 started - I thought to myself, "I guess I'll check it out to see where they head with the story". To be honest, this season really hasn't been 'needed'.

So far it's been 2 heists, no real Saul, Skyler has turned into a caricature, and I'm not sure if I see myself watching the rest.

Don't get me wrong - all the actors are top notch, the show is beautiful to watch, the moments that do work arguably work better than anything else on TV but overall I just don't find this season and the story it is trying to tell as necessary.

Maybe I'll come back when the back half of this season starts.
 
When Season 4 ended - I really felt like it was the end of the series for me. Every question I had, it answered for the most part. I really had no desire to see where else the story went - because I felt it wrapped up completely. For me at least.

That's reasonable. But for me, I don't think Walt deserves to be in as good a position as he is at the end of Season 4. He needs to be taken down.
 
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Is the GQ article that features this picture already out?

Oh god that looks like a spoiler. Are they sitting on
Todd's corpse
?
 
When Season 4 ended - I really felt like it was the end of the series for me. Every question I had, it answered for the most part. I really had no desire to see where else the story went - because I felt it wrapped up completely. For me at least.

When Season 5 started - I thought to myself, "I guess I'll check it out to see where they head with the story". To be honest, this season really hasn't been 'needed'.

So far it's been 2 heists, no real Saul, Skyler has turned into a caricature, and I'm not sure if I see myself watching the rest.

Don't get me wrong - all the actors are top notch, the show is beautiful to watch, the moments that do work arguably work better than anything else on TV but overall I just don't find this season and the story it is trying to tell as necessary.

Maybe I'll come back when the back half of this season starts.

Yeah season 4 did wrap things up fairly well, if you're ignoring the fact that Hank still doesn't know the truth about Walt, which is kind of a major plot point.

Vince Gilligan has also given interviews where he said he's a believer in karma, so for the series to end with Walt on top would be kind of strange, and besides that one could even argue that season 2 should have been the end of the series since Walt made enough money to provide for his family after death.
 
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I feel like that whole train speech and the climatic train robbery sequence was a foreshadow for walter whites meth empire. Sweet perfect success but with a very bitter sad ending.

Walter White is on his way to become Gus Fring. Some would argue he already is, but I think there are still a few scraps of humanity left in him that can be removed before he is quite as cold and heartless as Gus.

The real question is, will they give Walt some sort of redemption at the end of the show? Will he at least realize the error, nay, horror of his ways? I believe he will if they kill him off, however if he survives the series I could see him ending up as an oblivious monster.
 
Walter White is on his way to become Gus Fring. Some would argue he already is, but I think there are still a few scraps of humanity left in him that can be removed before he is quite as cold and heartless as Gus.

The real question is, will they give Walt some sort of redemption at the end of the show? Will he at least realize the error, nay, horror of his ways? I believe he will if they kill him off, however if he survives the series I could see him ending up as an oblivious monster.

lol Walt wishes he could be Gus Fringe. while he may be as smart and conniving as Gus, he isn't as close to being the professional Gus was. If Walt played his cards right, he could never get caught simply because of his relationship with Hank. But he's such an egotistical "don't tell me what not to do" idiot and that will be his demise. The watch, the cars, his relationship with Sky are all because he is unwilling to put his ego aside and make the smart and safer decisions.

And look how little Mike respects him - he knows the guy is 100% trouble because he's such a wild card.
 
Walter White is on his way to become Gus Fring. Some would argue he already is, but I think there are still a few scraps of humanity left in him that can be removed before he is quite as cold and heartless as Gus.

The real question is, will they give Walt some sort of redemption at the end of the show? Will he at least realize the error, nay, horror of his ways? I believe he will if they kill him off, however if he survives the series I could see him ending up as an oblivious monster.

I'm guessing his ending will mirror Scarface but in a much more feasible and elegant way.
 
When Season 4 ended - I really felt like it was the end of the series for me. Every question I had, it answered for the most part. I really had no desire to see where else the story went - because I felt it wrapped up completely. For me at least.

When Season 5 started - I thought to myself, "I guess I'll check it out to see where they head with the story". To be honest, this season really hasn't been 'needed'.

So far it's been 2 heists, no real Saul, Skyler has turned into a caricature, and I'm not sure if I see myself watching the rest.

Don't get me wrong - all the actors are top notch, the show is beautiful to watch, the moments that do work arguably work better than anything else on TV but overall I just don't find this season and the story it is trying to tell as necessary.

Maybe I'll come back when the back half of this season starts.

I would agree with you, but I think that may be some of the reasoning behind starting the season with the flash forward. It has really given the show a sense that it is going somewhere.
 
I don't think Walt will have complete character redemption. But I think his comeuppance will serve as a reminder of how out of control things got. Don't think it'll be a FUCKKYEAH WALTTT IS OVAHHH moment for anyone. It will be a somber ending me thinks, where we sit silently and reflect, and then weep because the show is over...forever.
 
1) I think you're thinking of "breakage"

2) Spillage is an actual word, so I doubt it's a reference.

No, I'm thinking of "spillage."

Jesse: So how far off are we?
Walter: It's not negligent. Ball-parking it, I'd say we're a quarter to a half a pound shy.
Jesse: That's weird. What about spillage?
Walter: Spillage?
Jesse: Yeah, y'know, like stuff gets spilled.
Walter: Nothing gets spilled.
Jesse: A little, maybe.
Walter: Nothing gets spilled.
 
Kind of annoyed with Skylar vs Walt again. Around in circles we go. Hope she gets offed this year by an accident or Walt totally flipping out or doing something stupid, thinking he is a genius.
 
Great episode this week. Tough ending.. fortunately I was not spoiled on it before seeing the episode. The fallout will be interesting to say the least.

So utterly bored of everything related to the Walt/Skyler saga -- really wish she was out of the picture. I think the show will end with Hank killing Walt.
 
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who didn't get the obvious reference when Hank mentioned Heat?

It like when Walt and walt jr. were watching scarface and he says "everyone dies in the movie."
 
Damn, that heist was exciting!
Yeah, definitely got the blood pumping. I almost expected Todd to die or not make it off in time or something. But his move at the end was a shocker, no clue he had it in him.

Poor jesse though, his whole plan was made simply to avoid the simpler way of killing those two train men, but it all ended up being pointless
when Todd shot the kid
.
 
There's really no way the show can end with anything except cancer.
Nonsense. We already know Walt is alive a year from now and buying a machine gun. My guess is that everyone is dead at that point and this is Walt heading into a showdown as a throwback to the first episode with Walt and the pistol. I think we've seen Walt ready to die in a hail of bullets.
 
Nonsense. We already know Walt is alive a year from now and buying a machine gun. My guess is that everyone is dead at that point and this is Walt heading into a showdown as a throwback to the first episode with Walt and the pistol. I think we've seen Walt ready to die in a hail of bullets.

But he might be doing that BECAUSE his cancer has come back.
 
Last week they referenced Ratatouille, a film in which a rat discovers he has extroardinary cooking ability.

Make of that what you will.
 
Nonsense. We already know Walt is alive a year from now and buying a machine gun. My guess is that everyone is dead at that point and this is Walt heading into a showdown as a throwback to the first episode with Walt and the pistol. I think we've seen Walt ready to die in a hail of bullets.

Dying in a hail of bullets is too good for Walt at this point. Hell, I think any death at all is too good for Walt. I think the best ending would be a non-Heisenberg Walt being forced to live with the consequences of his actions (assuming those actions lead to everyone dying).
 
This forum is now becoming dangerous for moy enjoyment with people catching the references and making theories about what will happen, and if the predictions are right and I am convinced of that, I would not like it. Like a previous forum in previous season when they discovered the twist of Walt poisoning the kid. I think I will stop reading it to avoid people discovering too much as discovering it yourself or sometimes being oblivious can be more enjoyable. But then reading peoples thoughts on BB can sometimes be irresistable
 
I've got a feeling Vince Gilligan is going to spoil the ending before it even comes close

There's no way he's that obvious.

My theory is a crazy one, but it's crazy enough that it could happen in the BB universe:
Todd becomes Walt's new partner, Mike dies at the hands of Hank, Hank teams with an unlikely partner in Jessie to bring down Walt, Walt kills Todd & Hank before he dies at the hands of Jessie.
I told you it was crazy. haha
 
There's no way he's that obvious.

My theory is a crazy one, but it's crazy enough that it could happen in the BB universe:
Todd becomes Walt's new partner, Mike dies at the hands of Hank, Hank teams with an unlikely partner in Jessie to bring down Walt, Walt kills Todd & Hank before he dies at the hands of Jessie.
I told you it was crazy. haha

That actually seems pretty plausible to me except for Walt killing Hank.
 
There's no way he's that obvious.

My theory is a crazy one, but it's crazy enough that it could happen in the BB universe:
Todd becomes Walt's new partner, Mike dies at the hands of Hank, Hank teams with an unlikely partner in Jessie to bring down Walt, Walt kills Todd & Hank before he dies at the hands of Jessie.
I told you it was crazy. haha

Walt and Jesse is going to kill Todd before he gets out of control. Dude knows a lot of secrets.
 
Walt and Jesse is going to kill Todd before he gets out of control. Dude knows a lot of secrets.

True, he does know too much, but in a way he's the perfect partner for Walt.
Someone who will do whatever it takes with no reservations.

Plus looking at Walt's body language and tone towards Todd suggests a certain admiration.
 
But he might be doing that BECAUSE his cancer has come back.

More likely because he's killed everyone he loved.

Dying in a hail of bullets is too good for Walt at this point. Hell, I think any death at all is too good for Walt. I think the best ending would be a non-Heisenberg Walt being forced to live with the consequences of his actions (assuming those actions lead to everyone dying).

Shield spoilers:
I always expected a Shield ending, where Walt lives but loses everything, but the cold open to the season premier really makes it seem like they're going to throw back to the gun standoff.
 
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