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Breaking Bad - Season 5, Part 1 - Sundays on AMC

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I just thought of a series end idea.

Walt realizes all the terrible things he's done. He gets Skylar and Jesse to forgive him, and makes a plan to turn his life around from this point on. He thanks his lucky stars that everything is okay. He got out of the meth business and the DEA never found out.

He wakes up the next morning coughing up blood. He walks outside and some random hitman shoots him in the face right in front of his family.

Eh. Big Love
already pretty much did that ending.
 
So tempted to skip watching the last remaining episodes and then watch them when this first half of the season is over. Choices choices. :(
 
So tempted to skip watching the last remaining episodes and then watch them when this first half of the season is over. Choices choices. :(
and risk getting spoiled. Also no TRUE FAN can live with not watching episodes knowing their are unseen ones readily available. JUST NOT POSSIBLE.
 
I just want to say that this season has been great for the most part. I am disappointed in how they are handling Walt. He is just so straight up bad now. He does not have the depth that he once did to make me route for the guy. They could kill him tomorrow and I would be happy to watch the rest of the characters.

Couldn't disagree more.

Walt's a man who's been swept up by the momentum of his choices. Calling him "straight up bad" is to ignore not only the series of events that led us here, but the nuance of life which the show captures so brilliantly. It's a doomed cycle plenty of people have found themselves in: you take a risk with intentions that are innocuous enough, perhaps even noble, and something bad happens. You push on, now with the added incentive of not allowing that negative thing to have happened in vain, perhaps even to atone. The more you persist the more things go to shit the more you persist...ad infinitum. Before you know planes have crashed, children have died, your marriage is irrecoverably damaged and sure enough, you're in the empire business.

The similar case can be made for Hank and his obsession with solving the Blue Crystal case. As with Walt, giving in to failure is not even an option.
 
and risk getting spoiled. Also no TRUE FAN can live with not watching episodes knowing their are unseen ones readily available. JUST NOT POSSIBLE.

You are right. I probably wouldn't be able to resist watching it anyway. :(

Kinda weird that it is over already in 2 weeks. Those months are going to be the worst of all the waits between each season.
 
Couldn't disagree more.

Walt's a man who's been swept up by the momentum of his choices. Calling him "straight up bad" is to ignore not only the series of events that led us here, but the nuance of life which the show captures so brilliantly. It's a doomed cycle plenty of people have found themselves in: you take a risk with intentions that are innocuous enough, perhaps even noble, and something bad happens. You push on, now with the added incentive of not allowing that negative thing to have happened in vain, perhaps even to atone. The more you persist the more things go to shit the more you persist...ad infinitum. Before you know planes have crashed, children have died, your marriage is irrecoverably damaged and sure enough, you're in the empire business.

The similar case can be made for Hank and his obsession with solving the Blue Crystal case. As with Walt, giving in to failure is not even an option.

Most people with cancer don't start making and selling meth. Walt is a dick.
 
Because he wanted to leave his family in a good financial situation that could sort them for many years to come?

C'mon.

He could have gotten his treatment paid for by that rich former partner of his. Besides, he knows he's going to put himself, his family and Jesse in danger by making meth.
 
He could have gotten his treatment paid for by that rich former partner of his. Besides, he knows he's going to put himself, his family and Jesse in danger by making meth.


Walt's a life-long underachiever who was staring down the prospect of a premature death and leaving his family with nothing. You can't see why he, of all people, wouldn't want to accept charity of that magnitude?

A man provides
 
Edit: I didn't read.

Also, brofist for Nameless.

If that's the best season then the show is a fat turd. Anyone with half a brain could tell who the killer was about halfway through the season. I pissed off an ex girlfriend who was excited to show me the show when I called it so early on.

It's not who the killer was, but who the killer was, if you get my meaning.

I predicted it too, but I did not see certain other things coming. That first season resonated really well with me.
 
You'd think so, but with these showrunners, who knows? I mean Ted is still alive. Fucking Ted, man.

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So we can basically guarantee that Todd is gonna get killed, right?

Todd is the perfect henchmen for the new, evil Walt. Unlike Jesse, who's constantly questioning Walt, having moral objections to everything, and basically whining all the time, Todd does everything he's told without question and has no moral problems with anything. Walt will take Todd on as his new protege, and Jesse will be pushed out.
 
They are more than partners, and Jesse can cook. If anything, Todd will be the reason why their business will fall apart.
 
Ted is mossssss deffffff gonna die soon. No way they keep his helpless ass alive and leave "shooting a kid" as the most shocking thing this season. He's definitely set up to be killed.
 
I'm pretty sure Lydia is someone who is going to be killed. She is a liability. As soon as the police have her in their interrogation room or something, she'll squeal. Either Mike will do it without discussing it with Walt, or the other way around. I'm gonna guess Mike does it since he already wants to pretty badly and realizes she is a liability.
 
I'm pretty sure Lydia is someone who is going to be killed. She is a liability. As soon as the police have her in their interrogation room or something, she'll squeal. Either Mike will do it without discussing it with Walt, or the other way around. I'm gonna guess Mike does it since he already wants to pretty badly and realizes she is a liability.
at first I was going to agree but after some thought..

idk...it seems a little too easy, I don't think she will squeal, but I bet they will kill her thinking she did say something when she didnt
 
I'm pretty sure Lydia is someone who is going to be killed. She is a liability. As soon as the police have her in their interrogation room or something, she'll squeal. Either Mike will do it without discussing it with Walt, or the other way around. I'm gonna guess Mike does it since he already wants to pretty badly and realizes she is a liability.
Lydia being spared guarantees Lydia will live and Mike will die. It is written in stone. :(
 
Because he wanted to leave his family in a good financial situation that could sort them for many years to come?

C'mon.

wha? cmon, its obvious walt is a very bad person, and everything is gonna come crashing/crumbling down. walt is the bad guy.
at first you root for him, but after a few seasons look at all the terrible stuff he has done.
 
If Skyler was played by a hotter actress then I think there would be less complaints. Someone like the lead chick in Weeds. People would be far too busy drooling to whine.

Skyler could be played by Scarlett fucking Johansen, and I.F.T. would still have been the most rage-inducing moment of television since that thing that Anna Lucia did in Season 2 of Lost.
 
Skyler could be played by Scarlett fucking Johansen, and I.F.T. would still have been the most rage-inducing moment of television since that thing that Anna Lucia did in Season 2 of Lost.

not really, if skylar was scarlett jo hot no one would be complaining as bad as they are now
 
Skyler could be played by Scarlett fucking Johansen, and I.F.T. would still have been the most rage-inducing moment of television since that thing that Anna Lucia did in Season 2 of Lost.

I never saw Lost and I have no interest in watching it anytime soon so now I wonder - what did she do that was so terrible? Just put it in spoiler tags.
 
I never saw Lost and I have no interest in watching it anytime soon so now I wonder - what did she do that was so terrible? Just put it in spoiler tags.

She was a former cop character who killed one of the show's best characters in a typical "cop shoots innocent person and gets away with it" situation, and she then held the rest of the group hostage for half an episode. She also tried to act like an authority figure when she actually sucked at everything.
 
She was a former cop character who killed one of the show's best characters in a typical "cop shoots innocent person and gets away with it" situation, and she then held the rest of the group hostage for half an episode. She also tried to act like an authority figure when she actually sucked at everything.

Thank you!
 
- A few thoughts on Walt from Zack Handlen over in the comments of the Onion A|V Club's review of Dead Freight:
I figured the kid was doomed after that cold open, but I spent the whole episode assuming Walt would kill him. In retrospect, I think this way makes more sense. To me, Walt is more compelling of a character if he's still clinging to a shred of his basic humanity; not that he's in any way a good guy, not to mitigate any of the actions he's done, but shooting a child point blank would push him over an edge and make him a pure villain, instead of just a guy who wants to be a villain. I'm not sure I can explain this properly, but Walt still needs to be recognizably himself, so that his actions carry weight. A guy whose arrogance and greed destroys everything it touches, a guy who terrorizes his wife and plays mental mind fucks with his closest associate--the Walt from the beginning of the show is still there somehow, no matter loathsome he becomes, he's still someone who can choose to do the right thing. If Walt turned himself in right now, he wouldn't be redeemed, but he would at least make things better for everyone else around him, and the fact that he could make that choice, and doesn't, is what makes him detestable and still dramatically rich.

If he shot the kid, though, there'd be nothing left. He'd be a done deal as a character, because you can't come back from that shit. (No matter what George Lucas thinks.) Having Todd do it makes sense because Walt specifically told Todd that they couldn't have any witnesses, and also, from a structural standpoint, because he's just a tool, a sort of narrative device. He exists to shift the nature of what we're watching--no more fun, guys, because now we've killed a child--and make Walt be responsible for the kid's death without making him directly to blame. So Walt can still have that possibility of decency which he continues to reject, and we can get yet another example of just how rotten his refusal to fix himself is making the world.
 
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