Maybe. But we'd see Walt during/afterwards, not Heisenberg. i.e., moral conflict written on his face.
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Definitely not. As much as he's deteriorated, he wouldn't do something so point-blank like that.
triplestation
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I wonder what would have happened.
It will probably be addressed next episode with Tod asking what else they could have done, etc.
It will probably be addressed next episode with Tod asking what else they could have done, etc.
triplestation
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The kid is actually Ted's son. When he fucked Skylar in college days and she gave the child away to a reptile shop owner. The kid grew to love spiders.
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Nothing would have happened. The kid would have biked off, and Walt would have probably try to think of a justification that he wouldn't snitch.
FantasticMrFoxdie
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I agree.
Walt wouldn't have done it simply because he's still in that phase of hardass rationalization and mental gymnastics, so he wouldn't have had the will to execute him on the spot (though he might have poisoned him afterwards
) yet he's gonna justify it as a necessity yadda yadda yadda.STILL, i don't think this murder can be directly weighted on him, just because he said "are you sure?" to Todd.
-Pyromaniac-
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I don't know. On one hand I could see him telling Todd alone that he did the right thing. On the other hand I could see him getting all boss-man on Todd telling him he shouldn't do shit like that without permission, etc...
Tornado Condor
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double post. my bad!
Tornado Condor
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The reason why Walt and Jesse want methylamine (NH2CH3) so bad is for the reductive amination of phenylacetone (1st structure) into meth.
Reductive amination is when the amino group reduces and replaces the oxygen from the carbonyl (C=O). You can hear Jesse request phenylacetic acid (precursor for phenylacetone) in the mexican lab scene with Jesse cooking the meth.
Unfortunately, some of the chemistry in the show is flawed.
Reductive amination is when the amino group reduces and replaces the oxygen from the carbonyl (C=O). You can hear Jesse request phenylacetic acid (precursor for phenylacetone) in the mexican lab scene with Jesse cooking the meth.
Unfortunately, some of the chemistry in the show is flawed.
Tornado Condor
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I thought i'd explain why methylamine is so important in this show, kiddo.
Lamel
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I know I was just kidding.
I dread the day I have to take Orgo. In fact currently as an research assistant I have to learn it to move on with my project ;_;.
Tornado Condor
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I took orgo this past year. It was a total bitch indeed!
Don't worry though, just don't slack off and you'll be okay.Salva, as a chemist, can you answer something for me:
What could conceivably be the factor behind the astonishing purity of Walt's meth? Why would an expert chemist like Gale still be 3% behind Walt's meth in purity? They were originally cooking it in a trailer, so I assume boatloads of expensive equipment aren't the factor. Could it be something about the process? Something about the order of reactions set up in such an efficient way as to leave an absolute minimum amount of byproduct (apologies if I'm using the wrong terminology)?
What could conceivably be the factor behind the astonishing purity of Walt's meth? Why would an expert chemist like Gale still be 3% behind Walt's meth in purity? They were originally cooking it in a trailer, so I assume boatloads of expensive equipment aren't the factor. Could it be something about the process? Something about the order of reactions set up in such an efficient way as to leave an absolute minimum amount of byproduct (apologies if I'm using the wrong terminology)?
Tornado Condor
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The method he used and technique.
There are multiple ways to make meth, and they each yield different purities. For example, at first Walt was synthesizing meth using pseudophedrine and the iodine/red phosphorus method. He made meth but at a lower purity than the methylamine route.
Technique
You asked why Gale was 3% behind Walt's meth in purity. This is because of the technique. See, chemistry is just like cooking; an experienced chef will make better meals than an inexperienced one. You can give anyone instructions to make meth but their techniques will differ. One will be real sloppy about mixing the chemicals and the other will take precautions mixing the chemicals. Walt has been real anal about keeping the lab clean so there won't be any impurities on the meth. Also Walt is a "brilliant chemist" in the way that his technique is just about flawless (99% purity, i believe?).
Basically, Walt's techniques are so good that he makes a super pure meth.
Infinite Justice
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Yep and Gale couldn't let it go hence Gus hiring Walt.
IIRC Gale and Jesse are 96% (which is pretty good as shown by Badger's lord of the dance routine LOL)
Extra Sauce
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I don't know, he seemed very at ease voting in favor of killing Lydia.
Yeah, but killing an adult is much easier on the conscience than killing a child. (In the grand scheme of things, killing an innocent adult is just as bad as killing an innocent child, but humans definitely have more of an emotional tug when it comes to kids). In addition, Lydia was suspected of doing things that would make her very deserving of getting killed.
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Agreed. Also the fact Lydia was more of a hazard than a bystander kid that might or might not have snitched or even realized what happened, which justifies Walt's order to kill her.
bodyofanamerican
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I'm glad I'm quoting your post because I can respond to 2 things at once!
1) I wonder if Lydia considered that since she's gotten them access to SO MUCH methylamine, she kind of loses her purpose now, no? If they cook that whole 1,000 gallons isn't it something like twenty million dollars? I know Walt will always want more, but it's interesting to consider. It's going to take them a while to get through that stockpile and I assume methylamine is off the table as a plot point for the foreseeable future.
2) I read those summaries you mentioned. Goddamn it they sound amazing.
The reason why Walt and Jesse want methylamine (NH2CH3) so bad is for the reductive amination of phenylacetone (1st structure) into meth.
Reductive amination is when the amino group reduces and replaces the oxygen from the carbonyl (C=O). You can hear Jesse request phenylacetic acid (precursor for phenylacetone) in the mexican lab scene with Jesse cooking the meth.
Unfortunately, some of the chemistry in the show is flawed.
Yea especially since there is no mention of how they get their meth to be enantiomerically pure I mean I know Walt mentioned it when he asked Victor but that is probably the most important factor considering he has the more pure, and efficacious meth out there. I don't see any chiral column chromatography, or any mention of kinetic resolution, or chiral catalysts.
Jesse's meth was 97.6 or 97.4
it was 97 something...I remember being surprised he out cooked Gale
which I guess makes sense due to the fact he's learning from Walt.
Infinite Justice
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While the field of expertise is somewhat narrow due to dealing with meth it was still nice to see him applying that knowledge while they were deliberating a new place and this recent one with the train.
Checked around to be sure and it was 96.2, based on the machine result while he was in Mexico (which still beat Gale by the way).
I'm confident he can go higher though since he did that number after Walt refused to help him since Jesse was hanging out with Gus at the time (aka their epic fight).
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-Pyromaniac-
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Saw thread bumped, for a brief moment in time I thought it was Sunday and missed the episode. FUCKING CRISIS AVERTED.
Infinite Justice
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Saturday though YMMV
Infinite Justice
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ahh ok my mistake
I checked around since i wasn't fully sure though, so there was a chance you could have been actually right
really interested to see what he can do now tbh
Infinite Justice
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Didn't know the real Heisenberg
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hmmmmmmm......
died from cancer
hmmmmmmm......
-Pyromaniac-
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not exactly sure why you spoiler tagged that lol
This behind-the-scenes video about the superlab also refers to an additional filtration step (the "Walter White stage"). I don't know if this has a scientific basis but in terms of story Walter has his own distinct method which adds to the purity.
Also, wasn't his original batch with Jesse also above 99%? Pretty sure that's what Gomez said when they first found Walt's meth while investigating Krazy 8's disappearance.
Infinite Justice
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not sure either but it somehow felt right LOL
Apparently Blue Sky under Walt's watch is 99.1%
Tornado Condor
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Yep. The method Walt uses creates a racemic mixture so his meth would be quite diluted. The show doesn't mention if Walt isolates the psychoactive compound.
It always makes me wonder what those percentage points do for the end-user. When it comes to alcohol at least, it's been made very clear to me that even the jump from 40% to 50% has a huge impact on absorption.
Dominican Power
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The reason why Walt and Jesse want methylamine (NH2CH3) so bad is for the reductive amination of phenylacetone (1st structure) into meth.
Reductive amination is when the amino group reduces and replaces the oxygen from the carbonyl (C=O). You can hear Jesse request phenylacetic acid (precursor for phenylacetone) in the mexican lab scene with Jesse cooking the meth.
Unfortunately, some of the chemistry in the show is flawed.
Why is the reductive animation of phenylacetone so important when introduced with Methylamine?
Tornado Condor
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It's what gives you meth. You could do, for example, reduction amination with ethylamine but you wouldn't get meth as a result. You would get a completely different compound.
Todd is Victor.
Forget suspected. She hired a hit man to kill 12 people, including Mike.
But...lydia is hot
She is hot, so there's that.
If they really want audiences to hate her, she needs to fuck Todd.
I'm ok with this.
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