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Breaking Bad - Season 5, Part 1 - Sundays on AMC

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YES!

DAMN CLIFFHANGERS!
 
Yeah im done watching the previews from here on out...the "the empire business" line felt like a huge spoiler from last weeks preview.



On my rewatch i noticed a faint smile while he examined the kid's tarantula

That tarantula is gonna bite them in the ass i think, especially since he didn't tell them that he took it (more likely would have been melted along with the kid).
 
Yeah theres fingerprints all over it.

Its curious to see what is implied with his character.

In German, "Tod" is "Death", he was dressed in all black got into his all black car, and hes a whack-job who didnt flinch in murdering a child.


I thought about the fingerprints too, but then I realized there's no reason why the kid's fingerprints would be on file.

lol good point.
 
That was the spider that the kid had in the last episode, right? I thought that was showing that he kept something from the kid and might also be a little weird and sadistic, lol. I'm sure there's some other foreshadowing in there.

Todd=spider
Kid puts spider in jar
Todd shoots kid
Walt (or was it Mike?) say they are going to keep a close eye on Todd, he is within their possession now
Todd is the spider in the jar

While I'm not sure I even believe what I wrote ^^, I get the feeling that Lan- er, Todd, is going to go crazy and fuck shit up at some point. With Jesse and Mike seemingly backing out, Todd seems perfect to fill in for them since he's made it clear that, like Walt, he's all about the business, even if business requires murdering kids, he'll willingly do it. We've just met Todd but I think he's capable of doing perhaps even more evil things. His latent evilness is like the spider in the jar, just waiting to be released.
 
Wow some great reaction .gifs from Jesse this episode, lol.

I think Walt and skyler will die.
Its like the writers are setting up the kids to be taken care of after they're gone. Perhaps skyler will be held hostage at some point in hopes of Walt giving himself up... that's my guess for the end of the show.
 
Great episode, things are close to boiling point.

Small question, do we know who Jessie was talking to on his cell phone when Walt was whistling and cooking? At first I thought it was Brocks Mom, but I'm guessing it was Mike?
 
Great episode, things are close to boiling point.

Small question, do we know who Jessie was talking to on his cell phone when Walt was whistling and cooking? At first I thought it was Brocks Mom, but I'm guessing it was Mike?

More likely Mike since it gives Jessie enough time to mull over the decision he came to.
 
My favorite scenes of this week's episode were the ones with just Walt and Jesse talking, giving their perspectives. Jesse talking about when they started, Walt only needed 700,000, how he doesn't want anyone else to die, and then the fact that they are still supposed to get 5 million from this deal, which is more than any of them will ever need. And then conversely, you see that while Walt has gone off the deep end, it really is all he has left. He has no life now, other than this. His kids are gone and his wife despises him.
 
Walt isn't like this because his kids are gone and his wife despises him. His kids are gone and his wife despises him because he's like this.
 
Walt isn't like this because his kids are gone and his wife despises him. His kids are gone and his wife despises him because he's like this.

You're absolutely right, but also look at it from his perspective. He really does have nothing left. The reason he has nothing left is because of his actions, but he really does have nothing else to fall back on now. What would he do if he quit? Sit around and wait for his cancer to come back? He's been permanently reminded of his own mortality by his illness. You can also understand the point of view that hey, the worst is over now, we've got the methylamene, the worst is over, all we have to do now is cook it (which they have a good plan for staying hidden doing it) and distribute it. Walt has clearly lost his center of direction, but you can understand certain elements of his mindset.

As for all of you saying Walt is going to kill Mike, I'm not so sure. I'm sure he can try. But when Walt came in and Mike caught him, we got a glimpse at fumbling old Walter again. I could personally see Mike joining up with this other guy after a falling out as a means to protect himself from the DEA and to play a part in the new antagonist operation to oppose the blue and make Walt's life a living hell. They seem to be capable of doing something like driving Walt out, as was hinted in the first scene of S5.

Also just want to reiterate again, the strength of the scenes between Walt and Jesse in Walt's home. First of all, Jesse was invited to Walt's home. A first. Before, Walt could have killed him for showing up at his house. But hearing the two points of view laid out like that to each other was just great.
 
LOL @Walt trying to get sympathy.
"My wife sent the kids away and wants me dead. Jesse, this business is all I have left, plz don't take it from me. :(
What a guy, sheesh. I haven't wanted to see a character go down in a TV show so bad since Vic Mackey.

Next week needs to hurry up.
 
So here's what I can recall regarding the wristwatch:

- Jesse bought Walt a watch (and left the receipt in the box, possibly purchased with a card?)
- Walt told Skyler that his friend bought him the watch
- Hank noticed the watch, and Walt told him he bought it for himself

Is there anything I'm forgetting? And what do you guys think will be the outcome of this?
 
You can't help but feel sorry for whoever is married to Walt but for some reason I have zero sympathy for Skylar. She's so annoying it hurts. :(
 
So here's what I can recall regarding the wristwatch:

- Jesse bought Walt a watch (and left the receipt in the box, possibly purchased with a card?)
- Walt told Skyler that his friend bought him the watch
- Hank noticed the watch, and Walt told him he bought it for himself

Is there anything I'm forgetting? And what do you guys think will be the outcome of this?

Did he leave it in the room when he was getting that restraint off his wrist? If so, if they do raid the place somehow looking for Mike, there is your "ah-ha" moment for Hank...
 
I'm so glad I'm on team Walt, fuck I can't wait for the next 2 episodes. I want Walt to succeed kill everyone except Jesse and Mike and the 3 of them run a 2.2 billion$ (just to outstretch Grey Matter) operation.

It's really coming to the home stretch now I hope when the half-season ends they don't just end on where it began. I want to see where Walt goes with that trunk full of guns. I want to re-watch that scene now since I don't remember a lot of it but am going to wait since it might have more impact within the next 2 episodes.
 
Team Walt is far and away the most fun team to be a part of. We'll see how long that holds up.

The big question is: does Vince Gilligan have the cojones to let Walt get away with it? Having him die or end up in prison is the easy way out, IMO. Letting Walt retire on Bora Bora with $300 million would take balls.
 
The dinner scene was hilarious, if a bit overplayed.
Also, how plausible is it that an electric cable can cut through plastic like that? I'd try myself but.. uhm.. you know..

Also i love the fact that the cat's out of the bag in terms of Walt's motivations.

Team Walt is far and away the most fun team to be a part of. We'll see how long that holds up.

The big question is: does Vince Gilligan have the cojones to let Walt get away with it? Having him die or end up in prison is the easy way out, IMO. Letting Walt retire on Bora Bora with $300 million would take balls.
Well, killing him would be boring and an easy way out.
I'd like to see him succeed in some way, but realize that now he's alone and with nothing of value left (beside some money?) no loved ones, no friends, no one, just a sad, corrupted old cancerous man.

EDIT: Oh also, the whistling scene was one of the creepiest in the show, holy fuck.
 
Walt is certainly something with his ability to usually control the situation and manipulate everyone around him. For all his blustering ego, he is quite effective at keeping people wrapped around his little finger. Various parties are caught in Walt's tangled web and their inability to escape it is going to be their downfall. Jesse and Mike find a perfect way to leave the game cleanly with a lot of money, and Walt's arrogance puts the kibosh on it.

They're all fucked, basically. Show's taken on an apocalyptic vibe particularly after the last two episodes. You can see how the pieces are all starting to fall into place for the inevitable catastrophe. Walt's inability to simply let go will doom them all.
 
The dinner scene was hilarious, if a bit overplayed.
Also, how plausible is it that an electric cable can cut through plastic like that? I'd try myself but.. uhm.. you know..

Also i love the fact that the cat's out of the bag in terms of Walt's motivations.


Well, killing him would be boring and an easy way out.
I'd like to see him succeed in some way, but realize that now he's alone and with nothing of value left (beside some money?) no loved ones, no friends, no one, just a sad, corrupted old cancerous man.

EDIT: Oh also, the whistling scene was one of the creepiest in the show, holy fuck.


That well could be the final outcome. Walt "wins", gets his cash, but everybody and everything else in his life that he's care for is gone, his loved ones are either dead or have disowned him. He gets what he wanted but has nobody to share it with. Then the cancer comes back, he has to spend all of his money on treatments and such, he gets better, but has no money and nobody that cares if he is alive anymore to share his life with.....and is flat broke once again....
 
Gold.

Breaking Bad - Skyler Should Start Doing Meth

Perhaps the way to get 'Breaking Bad's' Walt out of the meth business is to give him (another) clear understanding of what his product does to people.


It’s been well established that Skyler and Walt’s relationship is, well, not really a relationship at all at this point. I admit that there were a few instances in the past couple of seasons when I though that — just maybe — Skyler would be completely enveloped in the work Walter’s dragged her into, and that their relationship might improve. Well, “improve” perhaps isn’t the right word, as it would certainly be different than it had been while Walt was a meager school teacher. Instead, let’s say that I thought there was a chance the thought of all that money — and being around Walter’s rise of power — would cause Skyler to see something different and, possibly, attractive in Walter to keep her around.

It’s safe to say that any of those thoughts I had about Skyler are all but gone since sometime last season. She’s clearly completely disgusted by Walter and the life he’s dragged her — and her children — into. At this point any chance of even a sincere smile in Walt’s direction by Skyler is a preposterous notion. That is unless, perhaps, Walter decided to clean his hands of the business and go back to teaching. Is there something that Skyler could do to change Walter’s quest for becoming a drug emperor?

Something Breaking Bad as touched on but hasn’t quite fully explored is the effect meth has on people and, more specifically, Walter witnessing its effects. Walt saw what it did to Jesse’s ex-girlfriend, Jane, first-hand, sure. What’s different about him seeing what happened to Jane is that he had really zero emotional connection to her. So, in effect, Walter quite easily detached himself from the business he’s in to what that product did to this girl. What if, though, Walter saw this happen to someone much closer to him? Like Skyler, perhaps?

Skyler’s looking for a way out of this mess, and she’s clearly pretty desperate. In fact, it’s not clear if she cares about her own well-being at all anymore, just that of her children. She’s tossed out a few options as being out of the question — leaving Walter, turning him in or claiming abuse. It would be one hell of a gamble on many fronts, but what if Skyler dipped into the blue meth and showed Walter first-hand what a mess it does to someone, this very product he’s creating?

The gamble is pretty clear. First of all, it assumes Walter truly cares for Skyler at all anymore. If not, Walter would simply use the opportunity to strip the children from her and leave her to O.D. in a ditch somewhere. There’s also the problem of the kids possibly finding out what’s happening to their mother, which would screw them up pretty severely, I’m betting. Let’s not forget the toll the drug would put on her, as well as any sort of recovery from it.

But — and this is a big “but” — if Walter cares at all about Skyler, I do wonder if his seeing what is product is really doing to people might turn him around. You’d think a major in-air plane crash might have caused Walter to calculate the wide ring of influence his drugs have, but he’s quite easily blocked that so far. Could be block seeing Skyler falling apart from it? Has he truly grasped the effect meth has on people, even when seeing Jesse go through it and seeing someone die from it? Is Jesse just not close enough to him for him to get the full effect of what meth does to people?

Seeing Jesse sit at the awkward “family” dinner is what brought this idea to mind. I could see this as being a sort-of catalyst for Skyler making such a move. She uses Jesse to get her hands on some of the product, and either Walter does make that (doubtful) recovery, or he finds out what Jesse did and takes it out on him. Jesse clearly wouldn’t give her any of the stuff if he thought she was going to use it, but I’m sure she’d have her ways of getting some regardless.

The idea is certainly a bit of a stretch, seeing as Walter just seems to get crazier as the series winds down. But with a decent amount of episodes to go, perhaps the answer to how things end up for Walter aren’t about gun fights and drug busts, but instead about seeing a man become clear in the head about his actions and do something to make things right again. Instead of “breaking bad,” he’s “making good” again.

I'd love to see Skyler become a meth-head, but this plan is just a little naive.
 
I'd like to see him succeed in some way, but realize that now he's alone and with nothing of value left (beside some money?) no loved ones, no friends, no one, just a sad, corrupted old cancerous man.

They wouldn't go with this ending because
The Shield
(TV show that ended a few years ago) already did it.
 
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