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Dota 2 Beta Thread 2: Real Talk Discouraged [Magnus, Teams, 6.75b, 150+ Shop Items]
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Well nobody that knows how to play tiny builds manaboots. For the most part skipping blink completely seems to be more of an nadota thing, even though everybody goes aghs now.
JakkuFurosu
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highly doubtful.
The timebreaker holding steady at @ 5Dota Keys (8-10 tf2 keys) while the ursas seem to be asking unusual courier (though i doubt theyll get it) and are denying 10 dota key offers
Stupid valve ruining everything!
Hey hey! Ho ho! listening to whiny little bitches has got to go!
Oh that stands for something? I just thought he was welsh :s
yo_soy_el_topo
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So i come from league and have become decent at this game but only level 2. HOW FOR THE LOVE OF GOD do you stop people from feeding riki
Every game I play (some on my team) has a riki that gets fed and just outlevels and wins the game. Needless to say this isn't exactly what i expected.
Really want to like it but between that character and people always leaving / afk i don't have the patience.
Every game I play (some on my team) has a riki that gets fed and just outlevels and wins the game. Needless to say this isn't exactly what i expected.
Really want to like it but between that character and people always leaving / afk i don't have the patience.
buy dust + disable? he goes down pretty fast
Schweinehund
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Nightstalker is a good low level counter to riki. His silence stops the stealth/cloud. Carry around a dust on your hero. NS is good in entry level bracket for any match.
Hard counters are slardar and bounty hunter, both have ults that reveal invisibility when put on a target. Universal counter is force staff for getting out of the cloud (can be used on team mates/yourself), or black king bar/monkey king bar for fighting inside of it.
Since you seem to really hate Riki, here is a few things you can do to screw him over.
1) Kill him a few times before he is level 6. Riki has a really low HP pool, and his escape isn't that great early game. If you can't kill him, make he scared to even get last hits.
2) So, he is level 6+? Anti invisibility items are you friend. Buy them. Is he farming in your lane still? Place some sentry wards in the lane. Is he just roaming around trying to gank? Have some dust on you, when he pops up, put the dust on him so you have vision of him, and kill him on the rebound. Riki can only really focus one hero at a time, as long as you don't all get suck in his smoke cloud, just stun him and kill him. Also, try to get a gem on your team when you can.
3) Have someone grab Slardar or Bounty Hunter, they both have skills they can place on Riki to keep sight of him.
1) Kill him a few times before he is level 6. Riki has a really low HP pool, and his escape isn't that great early game. If you can't kill him, make he scared to even get last hits.
2) So, he is level 6+? Anti invisibility items are you friend. Buy them. Is he farming in your lane still? Place some sentry wards in the lane. Is he just roaming around trying to gank? Have some dust on you, when he pops up, put the dust on him so you have vision of him, and kill him on the rebound. Riki can only really focus one hero at a time, as long as you don't all get suck in his smoke cloud, just stun him and kill him. Also, try to get a gem on your team when you can.
3) Have someone grab Slardar or Bounty Hunter, they both have skills they can place on Riki to keep sight of him.
The Technomancer
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If you get a chance to counterpick take Bounty Hunter. His ultimate, Track, will force Riki to stay visible for like thirty seconds while reducing his armor and giving your allies bonus movement speed. Riki is incredibly vulnerable when he's visible, and almost never survives having Track tossed on him.
yo_soy_el_topo
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Sweet thanks a lot, these all sound like awesome ways to deal with Riki. Had no idea about the dust item, I'm thinking something as simple as that would have saved a few games on my side.
Yes, Riki is certainly one of those heroes that can devastate a new player. I remember when I first started playing, there was a game where the enemy Riki went 34/0. Even last night, the Riki on my team got something ridiculous like 25 kills. They never bought gem, dust, or sentry wards to our knowledge (ironically, I bought gem for my team to get the shadow blading sniper).
Invisible heroes can be very intimidating for new players, since you really have to go out of your way to counter them by buying extra items. This is definitely not fun for players who have difficulty farming and every single gold is precious (me). However, if you can grab an invis hero, they can go down very quickly and you will earn back any money you spent on items by killing them.
Probably my favorite skill to use against new players was Axe's battle hunger. People had no idea how to get rid of it and you could troll the lane all day with it.
Of course its that same ult that keep him as a bottom of the barrel hero.
Also the offers for the Ursa set are very silly right now. That shit will settle once the commotion over it getting pulled calms down.
It might settle, but if they don't add it back it's a limited Mythical set that caused some controversy, it's always going to be a valuable set.
Looks awesome ingame, we're checking it out right now
wts shitty walrus club. LMK
TheThunder
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I definitely stopped doing it since whenever I try to deny I just end up missing it and miss last hitting so I only focus on getting as much gold/xp for now.
Lina is a fun hero, her damage burst is ridiculous even though she's squishy and has no escape (until you get the blink dagger at least)
I think it's nearly always a good idea to prioritize last hits over denying if you're trying to farm a lane. Denying is great if you can sneak it in when possible, but if you're given the choice between a deny hit and a creep kill, I'd take the creep kill for sure.
The thing is that very seldom will it be impossible for you to take both unless creep equilibrium is so perfect that even the creeps are attacking at the same time. The more you practice with csing, the easier it'll be for you to identify which creep you can hit first and which second, and it'll be easier to spot out occasions when you can get both when earlier you coulda sworn you had to choose between the two.
beyond jealous!
A set that only works on one hero. This will be no earbuds, just like timebreaker.
Here are some videos demonstrating the greatness of mumble dota gaf.
Freakinchair Dota
Neki Dota
Anbokr Storm
DrKirby vs Kapura
Neki Lycan
Typical PuppetYuber
Depressed Carbine
Freakinchair and Rumblemuffin
Now you know what you are missing out on if you're not on mumble.
BONUS: 1V1 MILKMAN VS ANBOKR
Freakinchair Dota
Neki Dota
Anbokr Storm
DrKirby vs Kapura
Neki Lycan
Typical PuppetYuber
Depressed Carbine
Freakinchair and Rumblemuffin
Now you know what you are missing out on if you're not on mumble.
BONUS: 1V1 MILKMAN VS ANBOKR
CarbonatedFalcon
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Hahaha, those videos are great.
I should hop on mumble more often.
I should hop on mumble more often.
drkOne
Member
Plus Timebreaker looks good, Alpine set doesn't.
It's a trolling set for a trolling hero, there's that theme, but it's nothing more than that. That was why I considered getting it in a month or so, hadn't they removed it, once the price was lower.
I still think that 10 keys is a silly price. People were able to get it for 6 keys before it went down if they really liked the set.
It's currently going for 10 because "omg legendary status, must get it to sell it for a bazillion keys later", but I fail to see how there's a market for a $22 set used for trolling purposes on Ursa.
kunkka so good at art :O
Is Anti-Mage starring in a Linkin Park music video?
pieatorium
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Oh it's AM? thought it was fanart for the new DMC
Hey Procarbine, here is that CLG Pudge replay you wanted to see yesterday.
TouchMyBox
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Drodo is from the International chests?
balladofwindfishes
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Pulling the Ursa set is making me really mad at not only Valve, but also the Dota2 community as a whole. This might be because I know the creators of the set and what they went through just to make it, but come on...
Valve being knee jerk and hastey and making bad decisions. Not off to a good start with Dota. Valve needs not to be afraid, suck it up, and just ship items. The item is in the game, oh well boo hoo you'll see it maybe once every couple of weeks.
Seriously, this is making me mad. Like wow... I'm more angry at Valve for removing it than adding it :/
if that many people don't like the item then why should they worry people will use it? Don't remove something someone worked hard on that was added to the game and everything, that's just cruel and unprofessional towards the creators.
I'm sorry Dota community, but you need to lighten up and realize that items are not always going to be perfect, and just because a large group of people don't like it doesn't mean you have to totally destroy the entire item being in the game and ruining it for both the creator and people who wanted the set.
...and I was going to spend money buying the gloves of the set because I liked them a lot and play Ursa. I went to buy them yesterday and to my surprise they were gone. Sorry creators
Valve being knee jerk and hastey and making bad decisions. Not off to a good start with Dota. Valve needs not to be afraid, suck it up, and just ship items. The item is in the game, oh well boo hoo you'll see it maybe once every couple of weeks.
Seriously, this is making me mad. Like wow... I'm more angry at Valve for removing it than adding it :/
if that many people don't like the item then why should they worry people will use it? Don't remove something someone worked hard on that was added to the game and everything, that's just cruel and unprofessional towards the creators.
I'm sorry Dota community, but you need to lighten up and realize that items are not always going to be perfect, and just because a large group of people don't like it doesn't mean you have to totally destroy the entire item being in the game and ruining it for both the creator and people who wanted the set.
...and I was going to spend money buying the gloves of the set because I liked them a lot and play Ursa. I went to buy them yesterday and to my surprise they were gone. Sorry creators
Procarbine
Forever Platinum
Those videos, rofl. PS: your storm sucks bokr get good
Also thanks archie
Also thanks archie
dave is ok
aztek is ok
I don't get how people don't want something like Alpine Ursa, but are completely fine with characters voice lines referencing pop culture
Interfectum
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I think it's time for people to put Alpine Ursa behind them.
dave is ok
aztek is ok
It's not the Alpine Ursa set, it's the principle.
There is a line of what is ok and what isn't - and it isn't very clearly defined.
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