I feel like that line is about him getting control over that impulsive part of himself that couldn't stand being told his place. I think there's an internal monologue going on there where Walt is saying "I shot him because I needed the names. I couldn't just let him go" He's rationalizing away his impulsive and angry action.
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I feel like that line is about him getting control over that impulsive part of himself that couldn't stand being told his place. I think there's an internal monologue going on there where Walt is saying "I shot him because I needed the names. I couldn't just let him go" He's rationalizing away his impulsive and angry action.
I honestly didn't care that much about Mike but watching that making of with Jonathan Banks made me feel sad. This is the role he'll be known for and it's over.
I just had Freejack on for a few minutes and noticed Banks is in that movie too. The same creepy, dead-fish eyes too. Poor Mike. PEACE.
NinjaTehFish
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I just made it to the opening credits..... And paused it to come here and say:
"Say my name"
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"Heisenberg"
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"YOUR GODDAMN RIGHT"
"Say my name"
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"Heisenberg"
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"YOUR GODDAMN RIGHT"
He realizes, but like he said last episode...He's lost everything in his life. His wife doesn't love him and is keeping his kids from him. He pissed away everything to the point of no return. The only thing he has left is his meth empire and it's quite clear he's willing to do pretty much whatever it takes to keep it going.
Mike was right. Walt's a time bomb tick tick ticking. Unfortunately for him, he was around for the boom. Jesse is next if he doesn't get the fuck out of dodge immediately.
And if Walt had shot him in S3E13, or the first few S4 eps, the reaction would have been different; Mike was not a great guy, but he followed a code. He was only involved in shit this season to provide for people--his family, his coworkers screwed over when the Fring operation went bust. And he seemed to genuinely be looking out for Jesse, which is an excellent way to get in good with the audience.
So to see Walt kill him because he hurt Walt's feelings (and because he refused to flip on his guys and let Walt kill them) is a little anger-inducing.
triplestation
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Walt is a maniac.
Mike is a lovable cupcake who loves his granddaughter. And he's far beyond Walt when it comes to having a professional attitude.
I dunno. That speech he gave to jessie sealed it. He didnt care about the kid, and he was so articulate in his lies. Compare that scene to when he was giving that crappy speech in the school auditorium trying to comfort everyone on the airplane disaster. At that point he was indifferent about death. Now hes cold blooded.
Goddammit. Throughout the series it's been clear that Walt was heading down a dark path, but he has this quality about him that makes him inherently sympathetic and likable. He's made questionable choices and done bad things, but I could understand his rationales and there was always a part of me rooting for him. I think this is the first time I've been legitimately pissed at him. I almost feel disappointed, let down. I wanted to believe he could out think his way to the top, to prove that his intellect could elevate him above the dirty game he was playing. I wanted to relish in the guilty pleasure of it all. But it turns out he's just an insecure, pathetic bastard. I knew this, I could see it coming, he's done dumb stuff like this before, but not on this level. I guess I'm just having trouble admitting that I don't like him at all anymore and the prideful son-of-a-bitch deserves whatever end is coming. It's such a shame.
What a show.
What a show.
It's about shades of grey at this point. It's easier to sympathize with Mike because everything he did was pragmatic and with reason. With Walt it's completely ego driven at this point. It's about his 'empire' and his 'turf'. He makes the bold, dick wagging moves because he's already lost everything he was working for in the first place anyway. He doesn't give a shit if it brings Jesse, Mike, whoever down with him. He's going to be the big man and go out in a blaze of glory.
It's why I think the series has to end with him dying of cancer. The cancer is the one thing he can't manipulate or control at this point.
But that was all business, what Walter is now doing is not, it's illogical.
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[Camera pans down from HEISENBERG'S face to his crotch, revealing a MASSIVE ERECTION]
END SCENE
Soyongdori
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LMAO
That's exactly the point I was making in my last post. Mike was very, very pragmatic. Very careful. He was a "bad man" in that his line of work was horrible, but the decisions and reasoning that went into what he did from a business standpoint were always meticulously thought out and then along comes Heisenberg and literally explodes his entire world.
-Pyromaniac-
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Saw this in the avclub review, my bad ifmitmwas posted already:
Perhaps Hank finds out who Walt was after he dies. Similar to my Saw moment theory I posted a while back lol.
Perhaps Hank finds out who Walt was after he dies. Similar to my Saw moment theory I posted a while back lol.
HP_Wuvcraft
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I would actually be disappointed if hey ever had Jesse find out about those.
Cheapens the drama.
I don't think they are. They haven't even written any scripts for the back half. It's pretty clear that, production-wise, it's two short seasons and the one season thing is just some contract mumbojumbo.
I'd be shocked if we don't catch up to the cold open until the final episode. Early in the back half is my bet.
So hey, did the shot in Hank's office after Hank came back in look like a surveillance camera angle to anyone else? It was a weird shot. Kinda think the dum-dum-DUM moment in the meeting was Hank realizing he must be bugged. Maybe he did something about it.
yellow submarine
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PATRIOT ACT, bitches. Yo.
HP_Wuvcraft
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Full circle to what?
The end for him here is one of three things:
1) prison.
2) dead.
3) the biggest meth kingpin in the country.
That makes it worse.
I mean, seriously, you're fucking justifying a guy shooting someone in cold blood because he didn't get the names of nine other people he was going to have killed.
I know Walter and Jesse have had some moments and are - at the end of the day - friends, but I completely thought Jesse was smarter than "we're at odds for four seasons but now he's treating me like a son".
I dunno, wasn't Walts 51st birthday just a few episodes ago? The flash forward has him celebrating his 52nd...
He's also in New Hampshire and says the M60 is not leaving town. Is that where his new distributors are from?
Gosh, I kind of feel sorry for Mike, but he knew the misforunate Walt would bring when he hangs around him. What a blunder that was for Walt. However, most of us expected his time would come. Watching Schrader's men smile when they caught the lawyer red-handed was a brief but amusing moment. Walt's "Do you really want to live in a world without Coca-Cola?" and "Say my name" lines were so good. Darn, I so wish I had a coke in my hands during the opening scene, it would have been refreshing.
boredofcanada
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The Jane bomb would be some shit.
I liked Walt throughout the first 4 seasons. Yes, he did some really shitty things, but there was always a part of me that wanted to see him succeed, mainly because those seasons had him overcoming some sort of greater threat (Cancer, Tuco, Gus, what have you). In season 5, there hasn't really been a major threat, and Walt has just been acting like an irrational dick. It almost feels out of character, I don't know. He's just morphed into such a douchebag that I can't sympathize with him anymore. Most, if not all, of his actions in previous seasons had some sort of reasoning behind them, but this time around I'm finding myself unable to understand what the fuck is going through Walt's mind. He just seems so one dimensional now (herp derp gotta have all the monies nobody can get in the way). It's almost a little disappointing to me that the writers have decided to go down the route of transforming Walt into a complete monster, incapable of acting at all human. He's not even making smart decisions like he used to be capable of doing.
Anyway, this episode was still fuck awesome. Sucks that Mike is gone so early into the season, but there was basically nowhere else to take the character outside of having him fly away to a distant land.
FantasticMrFoxdie
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All in all, Mike should have listened to Saul.
Yeah, but Todd's prison connections can?
Yeah, but Todd's prison connections can?
I didn't take that part as humor; rather, I saw it as Skylar establishing how "stuck" she is in Walt's crap.
Side note: Is it just me or do I sense a Skylar/Jesse team-up in the future. The way Jesse was looking at Skylar as she walked away in the car wash... I think he hates how Walter's toying with Skylar and he might do something about it
They explained this pretty clearly. Walt has lost everything. His wife is waiting for him to die and hiding his kids from him. He has nothing aside from his meth "empire". It also ties back to Grey Matter and his feelings of regret over how he handled that.
Let's say he "sells out" with Mike and Jesse. Then what for him? He sits around and waits to die.
It's because there's no greater threat that he's become such a monster. His ego is out of control and no one can pin it down.
If he sold out Skylar would be more likely to forgive him, no? I mean, not completely, but at least be comfortable with him living in the house. He'd also still be filthy rich, and would be able to have some sort of family relationship again. Maybe I'm being too optimistic. And of course that would make for bad television.
Mister Negative
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He likes to pretend he is. He's not.
HP_Wuvcraft
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Vince G. is a master of this on this show. The X-Files should have had more of this.
Yeah, that's clearly what is going on. It just sucks that I have like, nobody to root for anymore. Maybe Jesse, I guess. At this point I'm sort of just waiting to see who the writers have decided to kill off.
TheDarkKnight774
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haha This silly comic always makes me laugh
That ship sailed a long, long, looooooooong time ago. He's done far too much for her to forgive.
Mister Negative
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Bryan Cranston, Team Not Walt.
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Mike. =(
There is some speculation on who Walt is offing next, with some good stuff to back it up.
There is some speculation on who Walt is offing next, with some good stuff to back it up.
Skylar
Spectral Glider
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Fuck you, Walt! It's Team Hank from here on out!
Ahhh yeah that's true.
There's still some major shit left to go down. Like Walt growing his hair out, his cough back and taking some meds. He's away from his family on his 52nd birthday which is like a year from now. The first four seasons were only a year.
speculation:
The opener for this season is a while after Walt's empire gets busted. The DEA has found out Walt is the cook. He's been in hiding for around 10 months. But something happens near his birthday, probably contacting his son. His family are working with the DEA and Hank all this time. This leads the DEA to Walt for one final showdown.
Or maybe he's fighting off the new distributors, or Todds crew...
Can't wait to find out though
Or maybe he's fighting off the new distributors, or Todds crew...
Can't wait to find out though
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