What have you got against dicks?
Is GAF too strict?
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What have you got against dicks?
I haven't even clicked it, myself. Though in the future it would be better to alert mods to potentially problematic topics by PMing one of us rather than posting about it in here.
And I am certainly not going to click it now. I'm at work!
Edit: With regards to LGBT issues (emphasis on the T), I do have something I would like to post later this evening since the subject has come up.
Jeez i forgot how lame that movie was :O
I don't think GAF is too strict, I much prefer this place over others. I go on other forums where the members seem to be much older and its very annoying. If someone says someone is being a jackass, not even name calling them a jackass, the forum gets in an uproar about how people aren't being polite and they wax poetic about how the place has changed etc. It's really kind of ridiculous. This place has a much more fun atmosphere people can get into heated exchanges and not be banned for it, unless they cross the line.
I will say as one of the people banned in the aurora thread for talking about gun control. I missed the post that a mod had set out with rules in it, which is understandable since the thread was moving a mile a minute. Typically when a mod sets out rules they put the post number in the title of the thread, which i always read. I thought it was a little unfair to ban people in a thread moving that fast without putting the post number of the rules in the title or the OP.
I will say as one of the people banned in the aurora thread for talking about gun control. I missed the post that a mod had set out with rules in it, which is understandable since the thread was moving a mile a minute. Typically when a mod sets out rules they put the post number in the title of the thread, which i always read. I thought it was a little unfair to ban people in a thread moving that fast without putting the post number of the rules in the title or the OP.
T.M. MacReady
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I said nothing offensive about the LGBT community, nor do I share any of the opinions your are accusing me of having. Insulting me, talking down to me, and putting words in my mouth is only making you look petty, defensive, and immature, because there is no need for it and I've said nothing to provoke you to speak this way.
I was speaking on the double standard that can arise in this forum wherein people can feel free to insult and demean those who disagree with the popular opinion of a controversial thread, even though they do not say anything insulting. It keeps people from wanting to post in certain threads, even if they share the popular belief, because the discussion becomes so one sided that anything that isn't a mass of people agreeing with each other is attacked viciously, as you have attacked me in here.
I am quite liberal, and would never insult any race or gender online or in person. I like the idea of people being free to express their opinion without being attacked, provided they can do so in a civil and constructive manner, as I have. I have been trying to end this spat with you since your first reply because you seem to have lost my point in your own aggression about a topic you care deeply about, and I won't antagonize you any further, it was never my intent to and I'm sorry you took it the wrong way. This thread was about how strictness and banning can sometimes be one sided. I have seen that in many threads on many topics, and I wanted to share that. I won't comment on this any further, and only replied here because your direct attack on me is painting me as something I'm not, which is exactly what I was hoping to address in this thread.
I haven't insulted you.
I haven't talked down to you.
I haven't put words in your mouth.
I haven't attacked you.
I've disagreed with you in an aggressive fashion.
I've characterized some of your statements as representative of behaviors and attitudes that you are clearly uncomfortable with. It's up to you to decide how much you should care about this, and whether the problem is with your behavior or with the accuracy of my perception.
I continue to think that this conversation we're having right now demonstrates that perceptions of a "double standard" are highly overblown, and that most bannings are likely the result of genuinely bad behavior.
Edit: To elaborate, I believe that I provided a substantive argument in rebuttal to the sole example you're using to support your argument. Rather than address any portion of my rebuttal, you told me that I was "missing the point", "overreacting", that I was producing "text walls of nitpicking"*. Instead of engaging me in rational discussion, you dismissed my point of view as "petty, defensive, and immature". I'm not persuaded or positively impressed by irrelevant emotional appeals of this nature.
* A highly unfair accusation in light of my use of relatively well-organized paragraph structure.
Well I didn't personally find it problematic but I thought that in light of another egregiously crass thread being closed that there was no way that one would remain open. But if I were a mod, I probably would have closed it because some of those pics are so not subtle. I can just imagine a bunch of juniors (or bold members) trying to top each other, then getting everyone banned in the process.
GAF is not a frathouse.
I know that there are lots of contexts where it's "okay" (in the sense that nobody local will judge you negatively for it) to turn to your manly bros, indicate a hot woman on TV or walking outside or in a naked photo you snagged off your buddy's hard drive, and say "I would split that open like a Christmas turkey."
There are other contexts where this is not okay. GAF is one. Off-topic posts about how hot a woman referenced in a thread is, or telling people to FHUTA/masturbate/whatever, or content-free threads about some random chick filled with exhortations to behave like a creepy perv, aren't appropriate here. Act like you'd act in mixed company, in an environment where random ogling isn't appropriate.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=488346
So is herewego.gif, "this won't end well" etc ban worthy now? Because its kinda been standard practice on the forum for as long as I can remember.
So is herewego.gif, "this won't end well" etc ban worthy now? Because its kinda been standard practice on the forum for as long as I can remember.
ColtraineGF
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It was probably done because in those specific cases, it said nothing about the topic itself, and implied that the topic would be derailed by natter from the outset, without it actually happening.
EatChildren had been watching such topics lately, so I expect he wants there to be clean discussion in Wii U threads and the like without devolving into meaningless system wars/complaints about system wars.
And you're contending that this has always been the way that GAF's rules have been applied?
GAF may not be a frathouse, but it's not a courthouse, either.
Psychological Intellect
Banned
i feel like there's a lot of conflicting information in regards to moderation coming from the mods.......
Sye d'Burns
Member
Mods have always been upfront about the fact that where one may find an infraction another may see no issue.
Psychological Intellect
Banned
yea man definitely
When I read other forums sometimes I get irritated that a poster can get away with just calling someone else multiple obscenities and not attempting to construct a proper argument. I think for the most part the rules are what make GAF great. Sometimes trolling is funny to watch if it is done in a clever manner though
I would not contend that, no. There has certainly been a shift in mores over the years. I personally prefer the shift, but I can understand how someone else might have had trouble with the adjustment or that there might be other forums that are now a better match for the way those people would prefer to post.
Stumples covered this well in another recent thread about moderation:
Sye d'Burns
Member
Well, alright. If you insist.
blame space
Banned
i insist.
Sye d'Burns
Member
Well, alright.
NotTheGuyYouKill
Member
It's just a shame that I was out for a week when essentially the sequel to my thread, "My sister's three hot friends all came over right after a kid outside next to my house got hit by a truck" happened and I couldn't post it.
All that actually happened. For real. It was pretty fucked up actually.
But, learned my lesson, I guess. No more attention-seeking shit threads.
I do have a question though: I got a two week ban in July cause I used the term 'bitch' (didn't call anyone on GAF a bitch, just someone in someone's story), but I've seen the term thrown around a few dozen times and no bans. Is this just a lax rule or how inconsistent is this?
Please don't ban me again. It's awful out here in the real world.
All that actually happened. For real. It was pretty fucked up actually.
But, learned my lesson, I guess. No more attention-seeking shit threads.
I do have a question though: I got a two week ban in July cause I used the term 'bitch' (didn't call anyone on GAF a bitch, just someone in someone's story), but I've seen the term thrown around a few dozen times and no bans. Is this just a lax rule or how inconsistent is this?
Please don't ban me again. It's awful out here in the real world.
Female dogs are bitches.
NotTheGuyYouKill
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Guy in Dating-AGE told a story about his horrible ex-girlfriend and I called her a bitch. Or something like that.
Should have called the guy a dick instead. Then you'd be ok.
Ouch, gendered insults are no longer tolerated.
Fixed.
NotTheGuyYouKill
Member
No, I understood that and I've stricken 'bitch' from my vocabulary on GAF.
I'm just saying, it feels inconsistent. I've seen it used a few other times since then by other users, and either no one notices or no one cares. I'm not gonna dig up examples of it cause I don't want anyone to get banned, I'm just saying... how hard and fast is this rule?
Thread #2 has no banned users, but you can't see it because it's in the mod forum. Thread #1 doesn't exist anymore that I can see. It'd probably take ages to find a thread in the OT/gaming side without any banned users in it. Would probably have to be a thread with few replies.
Alligatorjandro
Banned
Dont say that
Steve Youngblood
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CharminUltra
Member
Nah. I think I've been banned three times total in the last 6 years and to be fair, I'd say I deserved it every time.
Not bad! I'm pretty surprised by that to be honest.
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
Huh, cool
All those sweet tags.
Steve Youngblood
Member
Yeah, that was like day 1. When you've been around that long, you tend to get recognized. I'd really hate to be some loser that's been registered since then that didn't have a tag.
Damn, member 289 and still no tag. You might as well not exist.
alexthekid
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Can any mod clarify this? Do you get banned for calling someone who acts really bitchy(ok?) the word bitch? And can you possibly offer me another word to use instead? My English vocabulary isn't the best. It can be really hard when the popular culture you consume uses banned word all the time. I can sort of understand the C-word but bitch is a word that I can't easily substitute for a milder one, with the same meaning.
And as someone else asked, is it the same for dick?
That's crazy. Usually you see about 1-2 banned users per page per year.
What's also weird is that besides DopeyFish and Bepbo, I've pretty much never seen any of those posters. Seems like they almost exclusively hang out with sports-gaf.
Maybe that's part of the reason why they are still here.
personally yes,
and selfishly I'm upset that Red wasn't there to time out the person who directly trolled me this one time....
its sorta funny how some threads are directly dominated by that say 3 people who shout down anyone else in a thread and they are allowed to continue to do it.
and selfishly I'm upset that Red wasn't there to time out the person who directly trolled me this one time....
its sorta funny how some threads are directly dominated by that say 3 people who shout down anyone else in a thread and they are allowed to continue to do it.
A Pretty Panda
fuckin' called it, man
Kiinda being nosy here, but which moderator banned me exactly?
Just curious.
Just curious.
NotTheGuyYouKill
Member
This might turn into an 'I am Spartacus' situation.
Trent Strong
Banned
Several people in a recent thread said they wished that everyone at the Republican National Convention would die. Some even said they wished all Republicans would die. And none on them got banned. Pretty shocking that none of them got banned. And it makes GAF look bad.
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