Football Thread 2012/13 |OT3| Two-sided triangles
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I always saw Martinez as a ball-winning defensive midfielder whereas Alonso is a deep-lying playmaker in my eyes, but I seem to be the only one to think this :lol
I think he's going to Fiorentina after all, we're getting Bendtner. One less kit sold. :|
Fucking jog on.
It's not.
mocolostrocolos
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I think Javi is/will be a better version of Alonso. So suck it
At least we didn't paid 30M for Coentrao.
What yoy think doesn't always fit with to reality.
Martínez better than Alonso? In which Universe?
That Coentrao pun really hurted :lol
Wh-wh-wh-what?
he is right
No he isn't.
not a chance
Based on what? That he's signed for the team you both support?
No, he most definitely is not.
Two Bayern Munich fans think a 23 year old has better vision than the best playmaker in world football (who doesn't play for Barcelona), fucking laughable. Seriously laughable.
A potent mix of bias and revisionism.
Milchmonster
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Like how many times have you actually watched Martinez as DM? Twice?
i feel happy in my pe--- tummy
mocolostrocolos
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A match against Manchester United.
I wonder how many Bilbao Liga matches have they watched.
you can argue about martinez but alonso is certainly not the best playmaker in the world.
mocolostrocolos
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Behind Xavi and Iniesta, who else is?
Only a disaster for Newcastle in terms of strengthening.
City don't need players.
Also, I hate you.
Outside of the Barcelona team, who is better?
Vivalaraza
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Pirlo is a better play-maker than Alonso out of players who play in that position, I'd say.
Come on, leave elsk some excitement. With players like Schweini, Kroos, Ribery and Shaqiri, Martinez doenst have to be THE playmaker if he just plays well within the flow of the game and doesnt stop everytime he touches the ball (Tymo i'm lookin at you), he'll already be worth it.
alonso was incredible in his first two season at madrid, but, the more i see him play, the more i think he's developed into a mostly ferocious, hard-hitting midfielder. i blame mourinho.
pirlo's like the slightly slower, italian xavi. what a legend. i agree that he's better than alonso.
pirlo's like the slightly slower, italian xavi. what a legend. i agree that he's better than alonso.
I think in terms of consistency in the last 7 or 8 years Alonso has been better, and he's done it against better opposition. Pirlo's been great for Juventus last season, and at the Euros, but I don't think he's been as good as Alonso over an extended period.
Eh? Excitement's fine, if we'd signed Martinez I'd be jizzing all over my front room, and on here. I wouldn't be talking out of my arse, though.
schweinsteiger, yaya toure, fabregas (even when he was at arsenal), modric, steven gerrard and freaking pirlo
I rate them all higher than alonso
Pirlo and occasionally Scholes? They're at least equal.
They're both very, very close.
If I had to choose between them though I'd still pick Alonso, marginally. I think his overall game is better.
Is there something in the water in Germany that I'm not aware of?
Yaya Toure a better playmaker than Alonso? Fuck me.
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Vivalaraza
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I think Alonso has been a better player over the years, but in that one aspect of their game, I think Pirlo is better.
Alonso is alot more than just a play-maker.
he IS a better playmaker but alonso is a more complete footballer, if that makes any sense.
and I'm not from germany
Overrated game? It's not an Uncharted avatar.
It's definitely a helluva lot. Thiago Silva at 42m was the highest transfer fee for a defender ever, wasn't it? He's regarded as the best CB in the world by many, so Martinez for just 2m less is pretty crazy. Definitely could be worth it in the long run though.
i have to admit, uncharted 3 was a disgrace :/
London has better restaurants than Manchester.
Vivalaraza
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Martinez isn't just a defender though. Alot more to him than that.
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Modric is a good shout actually. Think he's as good as Alonso. A different type of player mind, a bit more tricky on the ball and not as physical, but damn good nonetheless.
37-year-old scholes? his tackles are unreal, not his passing.
Maybe a few years ago when Scholes was in his prime. Alonso had more assists last season than Scholes has had in his last four.
derExperte
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I don't know what to believe anymore. :/
Interesting interview about Martinez (warning: in german): http://derbayernblog.wordpress.com/2012/08/29/interview-spielverlagerung-martinez/
40M is really high but it helps that martinez is paying 10M indirectly
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