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Alright, I seriously doubt this guy is interested.

Yeah, he's been gone in New York but I've noticed he's been logged on to okcupid while he was away so it's not like he didn't have Internet access while he was there. Sent him a message when his trip was about to be over and got a delayed response that wasn't particularly communicative in anyway. Sent another message asking if he's finally back, haven't heard anything.

Fuck the dating game.

That sucks Bees. You definitely deserve better. Don't let it get you down. Let dating happen naturally, sometimes you get surprised where your heart leads you.
 
school in a few days! :D I think I am more excited to see everyone again, this summer was a blaze

It's great that you're so positive about it. I remember I would get into a deep depression starting around July 4th. I still get a little bit depressed thinking about it.
 
The hurricanes themselves obviously aren't fun, but the aftermath must be, if there are shirtless hunks walking around all over the place. :O
They're not shirtless all over, but yeah, mostly-clothed linemen all over the place made the rough after-period easier. I also really enjoyed seeing the National Guardsmen stationed at my hospital when I was on duty there during the storm.. there were a few who were awesome, but I've always had a horrible weakness for military men.

And Bees, sorry to hear about your guy. But it's good that you found out sooner than later.
 
It's great that you're so positive about it. I remember I would get into a deep depression starting around July 4th. I still get a little bit depressed thinking about it.

I can relate, high school sucked a bit but I enjoy college, when you have your group, its good
 
They're not shirtless all over, but yeah, mostly-clothed linemen all over the place made the rough after-period easier. I also really enjoyed seeing the National Guardsmen stationed at my hospital when I was on duty there during the storm.. there were a few who were awesome, but I've always had a horrible weakness for military men.

Darn. I was hoping the storm force winds had blown their clothes away.

You work in a hospital? That's pretty cool. What do you do there if you don't mind my asking?
 
Just tell him its not working out. Be honest. Tell him it was a great beginning, but that there are too many issues between the two of you to make this a genuine connection. DO NOT GO INTO IT WITH A HOLIER THAN THOUGH mentality, because I guarantee he will bring up your shortcomings which he has chosen to overlook. Those are always incredibly uncomfortable to hear...and I guarantee there will be some as no one is perfect. Be clear to him on the reasons you have chosen to end the relationship (so you need to be clear on these to yourself as well). Make sure that youre ending the relationship for legitimate reasons and not some internalized fear of commitment (this being your longest relationship makes me curios in that regard).

Im debating whether you should do this in public or in private though. Two months is very little time, and I cant see him making a scene like crying and stuff, but that decision is yours to make.

Thanks dude. It went well, all things considered. We've decided to stay friends, and we were all smiles and shared a good hug. I'm hoping it was all genuine; certainly was from me.

And yeah, what can I say; this is really my first time dating anyone this long. We didn't even call it a 'relationship.'
 
Thanks dude. It went well, all things considered. We've decided to stay friends, and we were all smiles and shared a good hug. I'm hoping it was all genuine; certainly was from me.

And yeah, what can I say; this is really my first time dating anyone this long. We didn't even call it a 'relationship.'

Baby steps.
 
Darn. I was hoping the storm force winds had blown their clothes away.

You work in a hospital? That's pretty cool. What do you do there if you don't mind my asking?
I do MRI scans and research work for the university. I'm also certified in CT and xray, but I'm done with those fields.

Actually, I'm going back to school next year (for fun) to study Urban Planning. If I like it as much as I think I will, I'm going to slowly go all the way through a PhD. It should take six years or so..
 
I do MRI scans and research work for the university. I'm also certified in CT and xray, but I'm done with those fields.

Actually, I'm going back to school next year (for fun) to study Urban Planning. If I like it as much as I think I will, I'm going to slowly go all the way through a PhD. It should take six years or so..

that's an interesting switch. why urban planning? i had a friend who went back to school for that. he seemed to love it, but at times he also seemed to get annoyed by things in a city others never noticed. curse you eye-opening edumacation!
 
Alright, I seriously doubt this guy is interested.

Yeah, he's been gone in New York but I've noticed he's been logged on to okcupid while he was away so it's not like he didn't have Internet access while he was there. Sent him a message when his trip was about to be over and got a delayed response that wasn't particularly communicative in anyway. Sent another message asking if he's finally back, haven't heard anything.

Fuck the dating game.

if the guy wasn't that interested in the first place, then it's probably for the better that it lead to nothing. At least you didn't waste hours in a date.

regarding the dating game, just write to people and send icons and whatnot causally and wait until someone shows some degree of interest and see if it's real, answering with that same level of interest so that both parties go hand in hand developing the interest.

don't know details, but it seems you were way more into him than the other way around, sorry if I am interpreting this wrong.
 
It's great that you're so positive about it. I remember I would get into a deep depression starting around July 4th. I still get a little bit depressed thinking about it.

Pffft. You think you're depressed.
 
I do MRI scans and research work for the university. I'm also certified in CT and xray, but I'm done with those fields.

Actually, I'm going back to school next year (for fun) to study Urban Planning. If I like it as much as I think I will, I'm going to slowly go all the way through a PhD. It should take six years or so..

Wow, that's interesting! Or is it? MRI scans don't seem like the most eventful of procedures.

Urban Planning huh? What does that entail exactly?
 
I do MRI scans and research work for the university. I'm also certified in CT and xray, but I'm done with those fields.

Actually, I'm going back to school next year (for fun) to study Urban Planning. If I like it as much as I think I will, I'm going to slowly go all the way through a PhD. It should take six years or so..

Thats cool, I'd love to shadow or observe a day of a tech.
 
My dad's an architect, so watching him work or talking to him about design issues growing-up made it interesting. But medical imaging was my "practical" job field choice that would earn me a decent wage whie being relatively recession/outsourcing-proof.

I've been doing MRI for eight years now, but one of my interests has still always been how cities are designed, how the buildings relate to each other, how people get around (especially with the inevitability of energy getting very expensive in our lifetimes), demographic changes across our built environments, etc. Over the past decade, I've been inhaling everything that I can on the topic.. books of all sorts, websites, podcasts, youtube lectures, etc. And I still want to learn more.. so that's a good sign, I guess.

MRI is nice, but I'm a bit bored with it. I sit in a booth all day. Once the scan is set-up, I let the scan sequences automatically run while I read or surf the web or play my 3DS. The patients are often non-compliant spoiled brats (I'm talking about adults here), and the doctors that our medical schools are producing seem either afraid or unable to provide diagnosis without scanning absolutely everything. How would they have functioned several decades ago without the radiologist telling them all the answers? Needless to say, I'm not at all impressed with the supposed intellectual heft of our medical students anymore.

Urban planning is varied enough such that there's always a new aspect or topic or new news story to examine. It's a constantly-evolving field. I have no idea what I'd do with the credentials (like I said.. I'm taking these classes "for fun"), but if opportunity presents itself, I'd have to at least consider it. :) (g'nite!)
 
MRI is nice, but I'm a bit bored with it. I sit in a booth all day. Once the scan is set-up, I let the scan sequences automatically run while I read or surf the web or play my 3DS. The patients are often non-compliant spoiled brats (I'm talking about adults here), and the doctors that our medical schools are producing seem either afraid or unable to provide diagnosis without scanning absolutely everything. How would they have functioned several decades ago without the radiologist telling them all the answers? Needless to say, I'm not at all impressed with the supposed intellectual heft of our medical students anymore.

I was always curious to know if the scanning was automatic, guess I have my answer. The doctors scan for everything or else they are sued for malpractice. Too much of the care that is being provided to patients is done to prevent lawsuits. Which is amazingly insane.
 
This thread moves way too fast, especially now that I don't have as much time to check in. :(

My dad's an architect, so watching him work or talking to him about design issues growing-up made it interesting.

Urban planning is varied enough such that there's always a new aspect or topic or new news story to examine. It's a constantly-evolving field. I have no idea what I'd do with the credentials (like I said.. I'm taking these classes "for fun"), but if opportunity presents itself, I'd have to at least consider it. :) (g'nite!)

That's awesome you're going back to school for that. I've taken a couple of lectures for graphic design that also branched into other areas of design - architecture/urban planning included. Really interesting how even the seemingly smallest little details in objects and areas we come across in our everyday lives - whether in graphic, industrial, or urban design - are very much deliberately made in a certain manner. I loved learning about the thoughts and logic that goes behind that stuff.
 
totes understand why you'd be bored. dont think i could do it. i've already read every page on the internet at least 3 times.
 
Got back a little while ago from the first date I've ever been on: it lasted 8 hours.

We spent the afternoon at the beach, went to dinner, and concluded by talking for two hours in a park overlooking the city. The more I've learned about him, the more 'ideal qualities' kept getting checked off... Not to mention that he's adorable, hairy, has the physique of a gymnast, and is twelve years my junior, heh. I'm pretty stunned this happened.
 
My creeper moment of PAX: recognizing Cosmic Bus and Sai-kun instantly when they showed up at the GAF meetup. D: It feels weird recognizing people who don't know you...kind of how it is with celebrities, I guess.
 
how was your time in my fair city? shenanigans? loads of fun?

I spent most of my time on Redmond, which I think it's the most beautiful city I have ever visited. So much green everywhere!
So gorgeous! I fell in love with the city (which isn't surprising coming from a desert guy).

On Seattle, I spent most of my time on Chinatown and the surrounding areas (like the stadium).

I am already planning to visit again next year (that or Minnesota).

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To keep it sorta on-topic: so many handsome guys wearing shorts everywhere!
 
Got back a little while ago from the first date I've ever been on: it lasted 8 hours.

We spent the afternoon at the beach, went to dinner, and concluded by talking for two hours in a park overlooking the city. The more I've learned about him, the more 'ideal qualities' kept getting checked off... Not to mention that he's adorable, hairy, has the physique of a gymnast, and is twelve years my junior, heh. I'm pretty stunned this happened.
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Congratulations!

I think my first date ever lasted like 4-5 hours or so.
 
yay, congrats cosmic!

glad you enjoyed both sagitario :) there's actually a lot of green all over here in many of the nearby cities. even bellevue and many parts of seattle proper.

i wish i'd went to the GAF meetup :(
 
It was fun! Why couldn't you make it?

I...I'm upset that I can't quite remember you introducing yourself. I apologize profusely :(

Cosmic: That sounds awesome, dude. If it's who I'm thinking of, ya dun gud. :)

I think the first date I went on, I invited the guy (we were already sort of in a e-lationship) to dinner with me and 3 of my best friends. Probably not the best way to get to really know each other (and probably intimidating as shit) but I think I remember it being fine.

edit: p.s. danny and i are dancing machines (but he was playing on easy and i was playing on hard so take that)

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I...I'm upset that I can't quite remember you introducing yourself. I apologize profusely :(

Cosmic: That sounds awesome, dude. If it's who I'm thinking of, ya dun gud. :)

I think the first date I went on, I invited the guy (we were already sort of in a e-lationship) to dinner with me and 3 of my best friends. Probably not the best way to get to really know each other (and probably intimidating as shit) but I think I remember it being fine.

edit: p.s. danny and i are dancing machines (but he was playing on easy and i was playing on hard so take that)

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Drink my milkshake, drink it up!

I am already planning to visit again next year (that or Minnesota).

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To keep it sorta on-topic: so many handsome guys wearing shorts everywhere!

DO! So I have more the reasons to also go to PAX!! :D
 
I...I'm upset that I can't quite remember you introducing yourself. I apologize profusely :(
You need neither be upset nor apologize! Because...we actually never talked that night. D: I was too scared to make the first approach, because to be completely honest, you guys kind of intimidated me, LOL. And then before I knew it, you two were gone. :( (But I was the blondie with the GAF shirt/green hoodie and slightly thicker-framed black glasses, if that sounds familiar at all.)
 
Got back a little while ago from the first date I've ever been on: it lasted 8 hours.

We spent the afternoon at the beach, went to dinner, and concluded by talking for two hours in a park overlooking the city. The more I've learned about him, the more 'ideal qualities' kept getting checked off... Not to mention that he's adorable, hairy, has the physique of a gymnast, and is twelve years my junior, heh. I'm pretty stunned this happened.
That is so awesome, given you've been less than confident about that sorta stuff in the past.

Hairy Gymnast. Noms. I can vouch for those :P Formerly julls here, btw. Decided it was time for a change!
 
So, I finally came out to my mom last night.

I had this grand plan to drive to see my mom and 2 sisters yesterday (a ~2 hour drive) and drop the bomb on them collectively. Instead, I totally chickened out and spent the day miserably sitting around playing board games with them, trying to find a way to say "Hey, so, uh, turns out, I'm gay!". It didn't help that my youngest sister's kids were around the entire time, bouncing off the walls and interrupting our conversations constantly.

So, in the end, I left without saying anything, and was upset the entire ride home. Finally, last night around 9pm, I couldn't take it anymore, and called my mom, and tearfully revealed what I had wanted to in person. She was totally cool with it, and said she loves me no matter what, and just wants me to be happy and healthy. To say I am releived is an understatement, even though I kinda figured that would be her response. As some may recall from my original coming out story, I was raised in a strict Christian home, and she admitted last night that she's had a lot of trouble reconciling what the Bible says about gays with her own real-world experiences. I told her now that she has a gay son that she'll just have to leave the hate behind.

I'm not sure how my sisters will react, in particularly the youngest, who has made some fairly harsh homophobic remarks within earshot of me before. Of course, this is probably just a product of her environment (raised and living in the deep South US), but it still makes me nervous.

Anyhoo, sorry for the ramble. I feel better today than I have in the last 2 years.
 
So, I finally came out to my mom last night.

I had this grand plan to drive to see my mom and 2 sisters yesterday (a ~2 hour drive) and drop the bomb on them collectively. Instead, I totally chickened out and spent the day miserably sitting around playing board games with them, trying to find a way to say "Hey, so, uh, turns out, I'm gay!". It didn't help that my youngest sister's kids were around the entire time, bouncing off the walls and interrupting our conversations constantly.

So, in the end, I left without saying anything, and was upset the entire ride home. Finally, last night around 9pm, I couldn't take it anymore, and called my mom, and tearfully revealed what I had wanted to in person. She was totally cool with it, and said she loves me no matter what, and just wants me to be happy and healthy. To say I am releived is an understatement, even though I kinda figured that would be her response. As some may recall from my original coming out story, I was raised in a strict Christian home, and she admitted last night that she's had a lot of trouble reconciling what the Bible says about gays with her own real-world experiences. I told her now that she has a gay son that she'll just have to leave the hate behind.

I'm not sure how my sisters will react, in particularly the youngest, who has made some fairly harsh homophobic remarks within earshot of me before. Of course, this is probably just a product of her environment (raised and living in the deep South US), but it still makes me nervous.

Anyhoo, sorry for the ramble. I feel better today than I have in the last 2 years.

lol, I think half the posts in this thread are similar. Nothing to apologize for. It's great that you're making such progress. I think the fears of coming out are often exaggerated in our heads.
 
So, I finally came out to my mom last night.

I had this grand plan to drive to see my mom and 2 sisters yesterday (a ~2 hour drive) and drop the bomb on them collectively. Instead, I totally chickened out and spent the day miserably sitting around playing board games with them, trying to find a way to say "Hey, so, uh, turns out, I'm gay!". It didn't help that my youngest sister's kids were around the entire time, bouncing off the walls and interrupting our conversations constantly.

So, in the end, I left without saying anything, and was upset the entire ride home. Finally, last night around 9pm, I couldn't take it anymore, and called my mom, and tearfully revealed what I had wanted to in person. She was totally cool with it, and said she loves me no matter what, and just wants me to be happy and healthy. To say I am releived is an understatement, even though I kinda figured that would be her response. As some may recall from my original coming out story, I was raised in a strict Christian home, and she admitted last night that she's had a lot of trouble reconciling what the Bible says about gays with her own real-world experiences. I told her now that she has a gay son that she'll just have to leave the hate behind.

I'm not sure how my sisters will react, in particularly the youngest, who has made some fairly harsh homophobic remarks within earshot of me before. Of course, this is probably just a product of her environment (raised and living in the deep South US), but it still makes me nervous.

Anyhoo, sorry for the ramble. I feel better today than I have in the last 2 years.

I'm glad she was supportive! My mother was the same way, however my father (initially) was not. After some time and a long conversation, he's gotten much better however. Sometimes it takes some time, and I hope for your sake it all goes well! Keep us updated, please.
 
Got back a little while ago from the first date I've ever been on: it lasted 8 hours.

We spent the afternoon at the beach, went to dinner, and concluded by talking for two hours in a park overlooking the city. The more I've learned about him, the more 'ideal qualities' kept getting checked off... Not to mention that he's adorable, hairy, has the physique of a gymnast, and is twelve years my junior, heh. I'm pretty stunned this happened.
Wow i leave the city and you find another man just like that huh?! I bet you didn't try to make him order for you! :p

No pressure but mah waafe's first real date lasted forever. Jussayin ;)
 
Wow i leave the city and you find another man just like that huh?! I bet you didn't try to make him order for you! :p

No pressure but mah waafe's first real date lasted forever. Jussayin ;)

Ahaha! Technically, I met him the night before you and I had sushi, so that's why I was understandably hesitant to give you my flower.
 
So, I finally came out to my mom last night.

I had this grand plan to drive to see my mom and 2 sisters yesterday (a ~2 hour drive) and drop the bomb on them collectively. Instead, I totally chickened out and spent the day miserably sitting around playing board games with them, trying to find a way to say "Hey, so, uh, turns out, I'm gay!". It didn't help that my youngest sister's kids were around the entire time, bouncing off the walls and interrupting our conversations constantly.

So, in the end, I left without saying anything, and was upset the entire ride home. Finally, last night around 9pm, I couldn't take it anymore, and called my mom, and tearfully revealed what I had wanted to in person. She was totally cool with it, and said she loves me no matter what, and just wants me to be happy and healthy. To say I am releived is an understatement, even though I kinda figured that would be her response. As some may recall from my original coming out story, I was raised in a strict Christian home, and she admitted last night that she's had a lot of trouble reconciling what the Bible says about gays with her own real-world experiences. I told her now that she has a gay son that she'll just have to leave the hate behind.

I'm not sure how my sisters will react, in particularly the youngest, who has made some fairly harsh homophobic remarks within earshot of me before. Of course, this is probably just a product of her environment (raised and living in the deep South US), but it still makes me nervous.

Anyhoo, sorry for the ramble. I feel better today than I have in the last 2 years.

in my experience, stuff like that doesn't necessarily mean they won't be supportive. ignorance isn't permanent. mere months before i came out, my family and i were having a big discussion about gay marriage and gay adoption. my parents were saying how they were super supportive of it all, but my brother was saying really hateful things. he went as far to say that gay people shouldn't adopt, shouldn't get married, and that gay people were freaks. this made it really hard for me to come out to him. however, when i did, he seriously opened his mind up so much. he became so much more aware of gay rights and bigotry. he is extremely pro-gay now and has been suppportive from the very moment i told him. it wasn't even a process where he was initially mad and overcame it, he was supportive from the very beginning. i think some people just need something to click inside their heads. he's atheist, so that probably helped his realization a bit, i suppose.
 
in my experience, stuff like that doesn't necessarily mean they won't be supportive. ignorance isn't permanent. mere months before i came out, my family and i were having a big discussion about gay marriage and gay adoption. my parents were saying how they were super supportive of it all, but my brother was saying really hateful things. he went as far to say that gay people shouldn't adopt, shouldn't get married, and that gay people were freaks. this made it really hard for me to come out to him. however, when i did, he seriously opened his mind up so much. he became so much more aware of gay rights and bigotry. he is extremely pro-gay now and has been suppportive from the very moment i told him. it wasn't even a process where he was initially mad and overcame it, he was supportive from the very beginning. i think some people just need something to click inside their heads. he's atheist, so that probably helped his realization a bit, i suppose.

That's a good example yes. People evolve during their lifetime and most hateful things are said out of ignorance more than anything else. I'm pretty sure we've all been victim of this at one point or another. I remember at 16 telling my friend that I "wasn't like those fucking effeminate gays" and generally being very bigoted towards some of my fellow gays.

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MRI is nice, but I'm a bit bored with it. I sit in a booth all day. Once the scan is set-up, I let the scan sequences automatically run while I read or surf the web or play my 3DS. The patients are often non-compliant spoiled brats (I'm talking about adults here), and the doctors that our medical schools are producing seem either afraid or unable to provide diagnosis without scanning absolutely everything. How would they have functioned several decades ago without the radiologist telling them all the answers? Needless to say, I'm not at all impressed with the supposed intellectual heft of our medical students anymore.

MRI sounds boring. Do your superiors get mad when you play your 3DS? Like, are you supposed to be doing something else, or is it cool with them? Like you, I had a job once (!) that involved a lot of down time, which I mostly spent reading, but whenever my bosses came by they would get upset that I wasn't doing anything productive. (even if there was literally nothing else for me to be doing) I also sometimes encountered spoiled adult brats who were a drag to interact with, so I feel your pain.

Anyway, Urban Planning sounds much more interesting, so hopefully you can eventually do something in that field.

Got back a little while ago from the first date I've ever been on: it lasted 8 hours.

We spent the afternoon at the beach, went to dinner, and concluded by talking for two hours in a park overlooking the city. The more I've learned about him, the more 'ideal qualities' kept getting checked off... Not to mention that he's adorable, hairy, has the physique of a gymnast, and is twelve years my junior, heh. I'm pretty stunned this happened.

Sounds marvelous! :)
 
Performing the scan might be, but the technique and principle behind it are far from boring and it is in my opinion the most elegant way of scanning the human body.

I'd agree with this. I talked to the anesthesiologist I job shadow and she will try to find a tech that I can follow for a day.
 
Performing the scan might be, but the technique and principle behind it are far from boring and it is in my opinion the most elegant way of scanning the human body.

Oh, for sure. It's definitely an essential and revolutionary process, though I don't know much about it. Do you have any links that would further my knowledge of the subject?
 
Just finished my first day of classes at college. Loved it! And doesnt hurt that there are a few cute guys in my classes. (lucky too, considering its like a 10:1 female to male ratio).

Since I saw Sai-Kun's kitty helping use a laptop...Here's my cats lounging around with PCs!

Comfy?
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Can I please use that key if you're not using it?
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My cat Moose sleeping on my backpack. I'll be taking him to school with me eventually if they ever need a test subject.
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And my bloated ass face. When I gain weight, it goes to my cheeks >.<
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