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How old is he?
The animal room would make me SOOOO freaking uncomfortable.
oh trust me, i am usually so weirded out by animals like that, and wouldn't want them in my house, but for some reason i had no problem with it. i think it was because he seemed to own them ironically rather than actually being a hunter. i suppose there shouldn't be a difference, but it just seemed funny/bizarre and fit in with the other stuff in his house.

he's 42 btw. despite being that much older than i, he had so much energy that i struggled to keep up with him.

I haven't either. lol, that seems like such a kinky thing to just have in a house.
yeah! it totally caught me off guard haha. i just started laughing when i saw it.
 
Am I the only one who snaps sometimes while reading this thread? It's not something I'd ever do in conversation, but it just sort of comes out while reading GAF.

My "ho"s are of evil, not jolliness. :( And you still need to prove that you are a human being and not a GAFbot. But I will take your assertions that I am not below-average to heart. I'm now a very comfortable...average. :) Celibacy isn't the end of the world.
Why would you give me evil hos? :( I'm glad that I asserted my assertions enough that they assertively overrode your previous assertions. Sagitario can vouch that I'm not a GAF-bot!

BUT YOU DO! I have seen it and it's good and a little more.
Girl, please. But gracias señor.
 
Am I the only one who snaps sometimes while reading this thread? It's not something I'd ever do in conversation, but it just sort of comes out while reading GAF.


Why would you give me evil hos? :( I'm glad that I asserted my assertions enough that they assertively overrode your previous assertions. Sagitario can vouch that I'm not a GAF-bot!


Girl, please. But gracias señor.

I can't believe Sagi has seen your pic.
 
he also has a sling, which i have never seen in person before. i have always had a curiosity for stuff like that, but my ex was pretty vanilla, so we never really did anything that out-there. this should be interesting!

You gonna have so much fun! Seriously, slings are awesome!
 
I need serious help, Gay GAF.

My boyfriend and I have some issues. We have been together nearly a year and a half. I cannot stand sex. I was raped as a youngster, and have never been able to overcome it.

He cyber-cheated on me over Facebook back in March, which I found out about nearly a month ago.

He consistently gets angry at things, which makes me upset, but he never truly takes it out on me.

We have a really tough time compromising: I love videogames and Metal/Progressive music, he likes pop and doesn't really care for videogames (other than Skyrim, oddly).

...BUT, the things we do enjoy doing together have created some of the best times of my life. We've gone to Mexico and Canada together, and done lots of mini-trips that I've greatly enjoyed. In fact, even though he doesn't like videogames, he planned a trip to the Smithsonian for the GamesFest when the Art of Video Games exhibit opened earlier this
year.

But, once again, he is scared to move out of his house (I'm 21 and he's 25), because he doesn't think he makes enough money to provide for himself. This is also delaying his proposal to me, according to him.

However, I just get so frustrated at him sometimes, and think, "this will never work."

But when he isn't around, I get depressed and miss him soooo much. If he did propose today, I would say "Yes."

I am so confused :( I love him 90% of the time, but 10% of the time he just makes me so angry and raises compatibility issues. I understand the sex thing is completely on me, but I'm just so unsure about everything else.

Ugh.
 
Girl, please. But gracias señor.
De nada
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Sagitario can vouch that I'm not a GAF-bot!

Yep. He's totally 100% a human being!
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I need serious help, Gay GAF.

My boyfriend and I have some issues. We have been together nearly a year and a half. I cannot stand sex. I was raped as a youngster, and have never been able to overcome it.

He cyber-cheated on me over Facebook back in March, which I found out about nearly a month ago.

He consistently gets angry at things, which makes me upset, but he never truly takes it out on me.

We have a really tough time compromising: I love videogames and Metal/Progressive music, he likes pop and doesn't really care for videogames (other than Skyrim, oddly).

...BUT, the things we do enjoy doing together have created some of the best times of my life. We've gone to Mexico and Canada together, and done lots of mini-trips that I've greatly enjoyed. In fact, even though he doesn't like videogames, he planned a trip to the Smithsonian for the GamesFest when the Art of Video Games exhibit opened earlier this
year.

But, once again, he is scared to move out of his house (I'm 21 and he's 25), because he doesn't think he makes enough money to provide for himself. This is also delaying his proposal to me, according to him.

However, I just get so frustrated at him sometimes, and think, "this will never work."

But when he isn't around, I get depressed and miss him soooo much. If he did propose today, I would say "Yes."

I am so confused :( I love him 90% of the time, but 10% of the time he just makes me so angry and raises compatibility issues. I understand the sex thing is completely on me, but I'm just so unsure about everything else.

Ugh.

Proposal?! Woah slow down ... your relationship is in no fit state to consider marriage.

Do you guys never have sex? If so I don't think you get the enormity of that because asking a guy to go without sex for, what, ever? ... It sounds perhaps a bit callous and shallow but sex is an important part of a relationship and if he isn't getting any I'm surprised if he'll be around this time next year.

I assume you're getting some help to overcome your issues?

Sorry if this post seemed a little harsh, seems you're up against it :-(
 
I need serious help, Gay GAF.

My boyfriend and I have some issues. We have been together nearly a year and a half. I cannot stand sex. I was raped as a youngster, and have never been able to overcome it.

He cyber-cheated on me over Facebook back in March, which I found out about nearly a month ago.

He consistently gets angry at things, which makes me upset, but he never truly takes it out on me.

We have a really tough time compromising: I love videogames and Metal/Progressive music, he likes pop and doesn't really care for videogames (other than Skyrim, oddly).

...BUT, the things we do enjoy doing together have created some of the best times of my life. We've gone to Mexico and Canada together, and done lots of mini-trips that I've greatly enjoyed. In fact, even though he doesn't like videogames, he planned a trip to the Smithsonian for the GamesFest when the Art of Video Games exhibit opened earlier this
year.

But, once again, he is scared to move out of his house (I'm 21 and he's 25), because he doesn't think he makes enough money to provide for himself. This is also delaying his proposal to me, according to him.

However, I just get so frustrated at him sometimes, and think, "this will never work."

But when he isn't around, I get depressed and miss him soooo much. If he did propose today, I would say "Yes."

I am so confused :( I love him 90% of the time, but 10% of the time he just makes me so angry and raises compatibility issues. I understand the sex thing is completely on me, but I'm just so unsure about everything else.

Ugh.

I don't know if you're really ready for an intimate relationship. There's nothing wrong with being friends if intimacy is the issue.
 
I feel like sharing...

I started talking to a guy about 6 weeks ago. We talked quite a lot over the phone at first, especialy because we live in different cities (around 1 hour driving distance) and we both don't have cars.

Anyway, everything is great and lovely, we met eachother a few times since then and I'm having a great time.
This is actually the first time I'm ever "dating" someone so to speak (24 years old... yeah) and I picked quite a strange relationship to begin with since it has an expiration date: October 24th - the date he leaves for Nepal and India for at least half a year.

At first I thought to just skip it, but then I figured - what the heck. My friends relationships doesn't last for a month most of the times, so why say no for something that might last 4 weeks. Who says it's gonna last till October.

This kind of relationship (I don't know why but I feel weird naming it like that), like everything, has it's benefits I guess. Maybe because you know for certain it's gonna end at a specifiec date, everything rolls out differently. I really enjoyed the fact that I didn't feel like any games were involved. Everything was honest and real. If any of us didn't call or texted for 2 days, it was fine because we both understood that sometimes you want your alone time.


BUT!

Then last weekend happend and I think I started to feel more... connected to him. Maybe because I met some of his close friends and vice versa. Or maybe because we spent a lot of time together compared to the usual affair.

And now I have a thing that really bothers me over the last couple of days.
Today is friday, and we talked two days ago. I know it doesn't fit with what I said before, but I since that weekend I feel like talking more sometimes, so I call. But today I didn't want to call since I felt like I'm the only one that cares and wants to talk.
I mean, it's been 48 hours since I last heard from him, and he doesn't bother to give me a call. Why I should be the one all the time?

I decided to call, and asked if he's alive since I didn't hear from him. He said he was really busy these last couple of days and worked really hard. I didn't care since he was up since 1pm and I called around 9pm. We talked for a bit and all I could think of was that I really don't want to hear him talk right now. After a few minutes I told him I need to go and hanged up since I couldn't take it anymore.

Maybe I'm blowing this way over then I should, but I feel like I'm not. And then I think if I should bring it up since it's gonna be over 6 weeks from now anyway (but then on the other hand, 6 weeks is still a lot of time). So yeah, confuesed... heh.


I decided with myself the following: I don't really expect for him to call tomorrow, that's fine by me. On Sunday he's gonna have a really busy day, so I can understand if he's not gonna call again. I do, however, expect a call on monday. If not, I'll call on Tuesday and have a talk with him I guess. Maybe a bit complicated, but... I don't know.


It sucks that it happens now, since I'm supposed to go over next weekend.
He even told me to come sooner if I'm not working mid-week.



Didn't mean to write that much, but it feels good just to write it down.


Edit: Ha, reading it makes it seems like such a minor and foolish problem, but it really bothers me in a way.
 
I need serious help, Gay GAF.

My boyfriend and I have some issues. We have been together nearly a year and a half. I cannot stand sex. I was raped as a youngster, and have never been able to overcome it.

He cyber-cheated on me over Facebook back in March, which I found out about nearly a month ago.

He consistently gets angry at things, which makes me upset, but he never truly takes it out on me.

We have a really tough time compromising: I love videogames and Metal/Progressive music, he likes pop and doesn't really care for videogames (other than Skyrim, oddly).

...BUT, the things we do enjoy doing together have created some of the best times of my life. We've gone to Mexico and Canada together, and done lots of mini-trips that I've greatly enjoyed. In fact, even though he doesn't like videogames, he planned a trip to the Smithsonian for the GamesFest when the Art of Video Games exhibit opened earlier this
year.

But, once again, he is scared to move out of his house (I'm 21 and he's 25), because he doesn't think he makes enough money to provide for himself. This is also delaying his proposal to me, according to him.

However, I just get so frustrated at him sometimes, and think, "this will never work."

But when he isn't around, I get depressed and miss him soooo much. If he did propose today, I would say "Yes."

I am so confused :( I love him 90% of the time, but 10% of the time he just makes me so angry and raises compatibility issues. I understand the sex thing is completely on me, but I'm just so unsure about everything else.

Ugh.

Like others have said before me and from what you wrote, you really shouldn't get engaged and/or married. This seems like a really really bad idea because you guys have problems you need to solve before you can consider such an important commitment.

First, the sex issue. I'm very sorry that you had a horrible experience as a youngster. It is understandable you're having issue with sexual intimacy now and I really hope you are getting help from a psychiatrist or therapist on this. If not, you should get help.

Second, the cyber-cheating. Did you guys talk about it? Did you let him know that you found out? Did he tell you why he did it? Does it relate to your sex-life that doesn't seem to be top-notch for obvious reasons? If you haven't yet, you guys need to resolve that issue as well.

Third, having different interest is not necessarily a deal breaker. That you like video games and that he doesn't is fairly common in relationships. That you like different kinds of music is fine too. It doesn't necessarily warrants compromising but rather understanding that people have different interests and that's fine as long as it doesn't impact the relationship negatively. By that I mean that it shouldn't result in one making derogatory remarks to the other about their interest or a hobby becoming a hindrance to the relationship.
You said you guys are bad at compromising, what does that mean?

Fourth, the anger issue. Again, I'm not exactly sure what to think of this. Is he physically violent? Does he have verbal outbursts directed at things/people? Is there a reason why he gets angry so much or is it in his character? If it makes you upset you should bring it up in a non-accusatory way. There has to be a reason why he gets angry so often and it would probably be good for him to work on that.

Fifth, the moving out part. I'm assuming he's working and that he makes a certain amount of money. If he wants to see if he can or not move out he should draw up a budget. How much for rent, how much for food, etc. If he doesn't have the money to move out, then he should maybe consider changing jobs and finding something that pays more or maybe reviewing how he spends his money (does he go out a lot? does he buy tons of shit he doesn't need? etc.).
If he does have enough money to move out, then he should.
To me, not knowing if you'll have enough money to live on your own is a silly excuse for not moving out. You do the math and you find out if you can or not. Sounds like it's an excuse as to why he is not proposing (which is a bad idea at the moment imo).

Having doubts about a relationship is understandable and normal and it is something that should be addressed with the person you're in a relationship with first and foremost. Also you are young, I'm gonna guess he is the first guy you've been in a serious relationship with and this shouldn't blind you to the fact that maybe he is not the best person for you after all.
 
I feel like sharing...

I started talking to a guy about 6 weeks ago. We talked quite a lot over the phone at first, especialy because we live in different cities (around 1 hour driving distance) and we both don't have cars.

Anyway, everything is great and lovely, we met eachother a few times since then and I'm having a great time.
This is actually the first time I'm ever "dating" someone so to speak (24 years old... yeah) and I picked quite a strange relationship to begin with since it has an expiration date: October 24th - the date he leaves for Nepal and India for at least half a year.

At first I thought to just skip it, but then I figured - what the heck. My friends relationships doesn't last for a month most of the times, so why say no for something that might last 4 weeks. Who says it's gonna last till October.

This kind of relationship (I don't know why but I feel weird naming it like that), like everything, has it's benefits I guess. Maybe because you know for certain it's gonna end at a specifiec date, everything rolls out differently. I really enjoyed the fact that I didn't feel like any games were involved. Everything was honest and real. If any of us didn't call or texted for 2 days, it was fine because we both understood that sometimes you want your alone time.


BUT!

Then last weekend happend and I think I started to feel more... connected to him. Maybe because I met some of his close friends and vice versa. Or maybe because we spent a lot of time together compared to the usual affair.

And now I have a thing that really bothers me over the last couple of days.
Today is friday, and we talked two days ago. I know it doesn't fit with what I said before, but I since that weekend I feel like talking more sometimes, so I call. But today I didn't want to call since I felt like I'm the only one that cares and wants to talk.
I mean, it's been 48 hours since I last heard from him, and he doesn't bother to give me a call. Why I should be the one all the time?

I decided to call, and asked if he's alive since I didn't hear from him. He said he was really busy these last couple of days and worked really hard. I didn't care since he was up since 1pm and I called around 9pm. We talked for a bit and all I could think of was that I really don't want to hear him talk right now. After a few minutes I told him I need to go and hanged up since I couldn't take it anymore.

Maybe I'm blowing this way over then I should, but I feel like I'm not. And then I think if I should bring it up since it's gonna be over 6 weeks from now anyway (but then on the other hand, 6 weeks is still a lot of time). So yeah, confuesed... heh.


I decided with myself the following: I don't really expect for him to call tomorrow, that's fine by me. On Sunday he's gonna have a really busy day, so I can understand if he's not gonna call again. I do, however, expect a call on monday. If not, I'll call on Tuesday and have a talk with him I guess. Maybe a bit complicated, but... I don't know.


It sucks that it happens now, since I'm supposed to go over next weekend.
He even told me to come sooner if I'm not working mid-week.



Didn't mean to write that much, but it feels good just to write it down.


Edit: Ha, reading it makes it seems like such a minor and foolish problem, but it really bothers me in a way.
if you are really thinking about this relationship as one with a countdown on it, then i say you should be completely honest. it DOES seem like you may be overreacting, but if his poor communication continues, then i think it may be worth talking about with him on tuesday as you have planned. in regards to the situation today, don't bother bringing it up.

by the way, even if i do think you might be overreacting, i do find it completely relatable and understandable. it might bug you, but you shouldn't let it. i used to waste so much energy on stuff like that with my ex. it can be frustrating when you don't know where a person's head is at, and even more frustrating when you think they don't care about you as much as you care about them. for things like that, communication is key! just don't go into the conversation attacking him, or it will end badly.
 
by the way, even if i do think you might be overreacting, i do find it completely relatable and understandable. it might bug you, but you shouldn't let it. i used to waste so much energy on stuff like that with my ex. it can be frustrating when you don't know where a person's head is at, and even more frustrating when you think they don't care about you as much as you care about them. for things like that, communication is key! just don't go into the conversation attacking him, or it will end badly.

I'm... going through this right now myself, actually. Weird.
 
I should clarify that we are really intimate (I love to kiss and snuggle), just not sexually. Yeah, I know its still a gigantic issue.

He is actually really accommodating of my interests, and I enjoy most of the things he does. I was really frustrated at life when I posted that, so some things may have been overexaggerated.

I do really love him. We do share a joint account, and he is extremely responsible and always doing nice things for me. I need to clarify quite a bit further.

Yes, he "cheated" on me, but felt terrible and he understood it was a legitimate mistake. I truly forgive him for that, and not out of naivety.

For what its worth, he even says that the sex isn't an issue, and that he loves me no matter what.

Even though I don't enjoy sex, I don't mind it, its just that I'm... well... "tight," and he's... large, and it really hurts and is extremely uncomfortable :( I actually don't believe it has anything to do with the rape thing, I think I just still use it as an excuse.

Sorry, GAF, I'm just having a bad day (work related), and needed to vent. Perhaps I'm more at fault then anything (although its impossible to fully describe the details of our relationship, so maybe I made a mistake asking about advice on here).
 
Even though I don't enjoy sex, I don't mind it, its just that I'm... well... "tight," and he's... large, and it really hurts and is extremely uncomfortable :( I actually don't believe it has anything to do with the rape thing, I think I just still use it as an excuse.

Maybe I'm incredibly misguided, but I was under the impression there was more to sex than just... that specifically. Do you do other things (aside from kissing and snuggling) that you enjoy?
 
by the way, even if i do think you might be overreacting, i do find it completely relatable and understandable. it might bug you, but you shouldn't let it. i used to waste so much energy on stuff like that with my ex. it can be frustrating when you don't know where a person's head is at, and even more frustrating when you think they don't care about you as much as you care about them. for things like that, communication is key! just don't go into the conversation attacking him, or it will end badly.


I think that's what bothers me the most. That he just doesn't care. Maybe because he's flying in 6 weeks, who knows. When I'm with him though, I feel like he cares though and that he's "there". Cooking me dinner and doing the dishes bought me :P
So again, yes, I might be overreacting, and I'll stick to my plan!

Thanks :)
 
Dreadful photo. Augh.

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You look good imo, although that shirt looks like its drenched in sweat on the left side.

So by this being a bisexual topic is ok to post about experiences? Meaning that no one's going to start sending me lol you'r gay/your not gay pm's or anything to that nature.
 
Maybe I'm incredibly misguided, but I was under the impression there was more to sex than just... that specifically. Do you do other things (aside from kissing and snuggling) that you enjoy?

Yes, but not as often as I imagine most couples do. Once a week, perhaps?

I should reiterate that I KNOW I love him, not simply think I love him. Ironically, the more I think about it, I think it's simply being frustrated about the moving out (we've talked multiple times about it, done the estimates over and over, and we would be fine). It doesn't help that my mother is pestering me to move out lol, but I can't afford my own place, not without him.

On the other hand, I understand the position I put him in sexually. He is also extremely sexual (could have sex twenty times a day). But he doesn't force it on me, but it does get tiring when I turn him down (and it makes me feel terrible).
 
You look good imo, although that shirt looks like its drenched in sweat on the left side.

So by this being a bisexual topic is ok to post about experiences? Meaning that no one's going to start sending me lol you'r gay/your not gay pm's or anything to that nature.

whaaat??? lol
 
You look good imo, although that shirt looks like its drenched in sweat on the left side.

So by this being a bisexual topic is ok to post about experiences? Meaning that no one's going to start sending me lol you'r gay/your not gay pm's or anything to that nature.
That's the shirt's design. It's a bit hard to see, but there's some sort of light graphic on the right of the shirt.

I've never heard of a bisexual being laughed out of the thread, and so long as your experiences aren't explicit, I don't see the problem.
 
On the other hand, I understand the position I put him in sexually. He is also extremely sexual (could have sex twenty times a day). But he doesn't force it on me, but it does get tiring when I turn him down (and it makes me feel terrible).

I had that with my ex. He was really eager to go for the full deal but I wasn't really ready for that yet. Still not, to be perfectly honest. But other than that, I'm pretty game for anything else and quite enjoy a number of other activities that you can do. If it's only the bum play that you're not comfortable with, why not just do other things?

Once a week does seem pretty low, though you're not living together so it's a little more understandable.

So by this being a bisexual topic is ok to post about experiences? Meaning that no one's going to start sending me lol you'r gay/your not gay pm's or anything to that nature.

Lots of bi guys here. Post away.

Edit - I sometimes think that bi is in the majority with this thread anyway.
 
You look good imo, although that shirt looks like its drenched in sweat on the left side.

So by this being a bisexual topic is ok to post about experiences? Meaning that no one's going to start sending me lol you'r gay/your not gay pm's or anything to that nature.

I haven't been harassed for being bi. This thread is chill, mang.
 
So by this being a bisexual topic is ok to post about experiences? Meaning that no one's going to start sending me lol you'r gay/your not gay pm's or anything to that nature.

I think stuff like this is very, very bannable on GAF anyway. That shit just has no place on GAF, thankfully :)
 
You look good imo, although that shirt looks like its drenched in sweat on the left side.

So by this being a bisexual topic is ok to post about experiences? Meaning that no one's going to start sending me lol you'r gay/your not gay pm's or anything to that nature.

if someone PMs you that, feel free to post their name so we can ridicule them :)
 
Edit - I sometimes think that bi is in the majority with this thread anyway.
Really? I don't know if there's ever been a poll (paging Mumei!) but I always thought that bisexual-GAF, or at least bisexual-GAF that posts in this thread, was in the minority.
 
Maybe I'm incredibly misguided, but I was under the impression there was more to sex than just... that specifically. Do you do other things (aside from kissing and snuggling) that you enjoy?
I like to describe one of those activities as 'getting your grind on'.

Whilst I do enjoy anal sex (I'm versatile), I respect that some guys aren't that into it. Would it be a problem for me if my boyfriend never wanted to do it? Sure, it probably would, but I agree with Bees, there are other ways to be intimate.

I'm pretty sure statistics of such matters show that there are a sizeable portion of gay men who don't engage in anal sex, so you're not alone. But, I agree with Alcoori, if this is an issue for you, or you feel like things might be holding you back, you should consider seeing a therapist or counsellor.

However, if it is just a tightness issue, there are many practical things you can do here, and what's good is that these 'exercises' could help with any issues you have mentally and emotionally because of what happened in your past. I'm sure you already know of this, but it's worth repeating anyways - explore your body. Be comfortable in your own skin. Fingers and toys can be an aid to working your way up to receiving your boyfriend. Have you tried these things already? For many men, it takes preparation, lots of lube, more preparation, and practising on their own before they can comfortably engage in anal sex. I'm of the opinion that the payoff is pretty great.

Keep us posted. :)
 
To the proposal dude: slow your roll. And if he's proposing to you without you putting out, I'm sorry, gurl but... he wants something out of you and you probably would be better off dumping his ass. Mexico trip or not.*

But really you both need to discuss your relationship BADLY. Because that cheating thing is a no go in book but if you're not putting out and willing to let him sleep around who am I to stop you two?

Edit: * This isn't a be-all-end-all rule but given how fast you're going into proposal territory it smells extremely fishy wants-something-out-of-you to me.
 
I wish there was such a thing as gay sex ed. It would've made my teen years sooo much easier.
It seems like most major urban cities have gay community centers that are either aimed at teens or have classes for teens that teach sex education.
 
I love the eyebrow on you. I honestly wanna do the same. Mine are a wee bit too thick... (I do pluck, a bit)
Is the thickness just a personal preference? Judging by your recent picture, my eyebrows are thicker than yours (although my hair is darker, so it could be a perception error), and I'm quite fond of them. Thick eyebrows are great.
 
_Isaac: So, yeah, stumbling through ASL today reminds me why I really am out of place in both worlds. :p
 
full of cute guys!

come on lonche! out with it!

new rule: smile ;)






I need serious help, Gay GAF.

...

I am so confused :( I love him 90% of the time, but 10% of the time he just makes me so angry and raises compatibility issues. I understand the sex thing is completely on me, but I'm just so unsure about everything else.

get some help, otherwise this will get worse. if you're still having problems, you should really find a therapist or something to talk to. i've seen this before in others and it's not something easy to get over and it usually makes the relationship so stressful for everyone involved.


I feel like sharing...


you're overreacting.

it sounds like it's already missing the mark of what you want out of it, and that's not likely going to change. you can try talking to him about it, but in my experience, that probably won't change if it's already like this at 6 weeks in.
 
way to dodge the pic question. come on lunch!

yes, and there should be more. Smiles work wonders on your appearance :)
plus myspace and myspace pictures died years ago!
 
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