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How prevalent is this? What apps? So it's some third party app that's always running on your phone and computer, sending your messages to their servers which then send it back to your phone/computer?

The apps/extensions work within the same network, no need for a third party server, though some do use external servers.

Airdroid is just one example.
 
So after one full year with an android device, which I had no real problems with, I'm ready to jump back on the iPhone train. Missing out on too many games that I would want to play and i'm not really utilizing the much larger screen.

I'm just hoping this new one comes equipped with ios 6 installed, which i don't see why it wouldn't, and is fast.
 
How prevalent is this? What apps? So it's some third party app that's always running on your phone and computer, sending your messages to their servers which then send it back to your phone/computer?
Airdroid. It's mentioned often in the Android threads of GAF and is in the OP of the apps for Android thread.

P.s icloud**, imessage and facetime are Mac only features which leaves out the 90% of computer users who arent invested in an Apple only ecosystem
 
So after one full year with an android device, which I had no real problems with, I'm ready to jump back on the iPhone train. Missing out on too many games that I would want to play and i'm not really utilizing the much larger screen.

I'm just hoping this new one comes equipped with ios 6 installed, which i don't see why it wouldn't, and is fast.
now your expectations are realistic. What a nice change of pace.
 
Ugh, but I like universal phone number for situations like I am in right now, where I just sold my iPhone, but I still get iMessages and FaceTime calls on my iPad, even though the SIM is in my wallet.

I'm confused as to how imessage redirects sms from a sim not in service, or do you just mean sms originating from another imessage device?
 
How prevalent is this? What apps? So it's some third party app that's always running on your phone and computer, sending your messages to their servers which then send it back to your phone/computer?
Browser Texting is the one I use, MightyText's app is another one out there and there are more that I can't think of off the top of my head.

It's likely it works that way. I can understand some people would be hesitant, I am just pretty sure no one gives a shit enough about me to monitor. Also I imagine there is some sort of encryption or the apps would have been torn to shreds in reviews by tech sites.

Airdroid. It's mentioned often in the Android threads of GAF and is in the OP of the apps for Android thread.

P.s icloud**, imessage and facetime are Mac only features which leaves out the 90% of computer users who arent invested in an Apple only ecosystem

Yeah, that's the big one I was forgetting.
 
Browser Texting is the one I use, MightyText's app is another one out there and there are more that I can't think of off the top of my head.

It's likely it works that way. I can understand some people would be hesitant, I am just pretty sure no one gives a shit enough about me to monitor. Also I imagine there is some sort of encryption or the apps would have been torn to shreds in reviews by tech sites.



Yeah, that's the big one I was forgetting.
Airdroid doesnt work that way numble says as far as I know. There have been questions about the security of iMessage and calls for demonstration of its claimed safety but Apple users dont really talk about that stuff
 
So what's consensus on best place to buy, day and date?

This is my first pre-purchase on announce day. My 3GS and 4 were both bought a bit after launch, so I'm a little out of the loop on the tricks of the trade.
 
I'll do Best Buy. They have a nice process. You pre-order, then they set up a time for you to come in and pick it up and get it set up.

How much is Apple Care for iPhones? I'll probably have to do that.
 
So what's consensus on best place to buy, day and date?

This is my first pre-purchase on announce day. My 3GS and 4 were both bought a bit after launch, so I'm a little out of the loop on the tricks of the trade.

Welcome to the frantic preorder of iPhones where Apple servers do back to 1999 with constant server timeouts.
 
Can you deny the IOS6 update?

I can get an iphone 5 in december, but i have a 4 now, i dont want to update yet. When i get the 5 it feels totally new ;)
 
Airdroid. It's mentioned often in the Android threads of GAF and is in the OP of the apps for Android thread.

P.s icloud**, imessage and facetime are Mac only features which leaves out the 90% of computer users who arent invested in an Apple only ecosystem
It's enough for my purposes and the people I am in contact with. Especially since I currently live in a market where the majority tablet and phone OS is iOS.

I think there are more people using these services compared to the number installing server applications like AirDroid on their phones and computers. There were a billion iMessages per day as of June, for instance.
 
Can you deny the IOS6 update?

I can get an iphone 5 in december, but i have a 4 now, i dont want to update yet. When i get the 5 it feels totally new ;)
This reminds me, the wait for an iOS6 jailbreak will be painful. Any news of work on them using the betas?
 
This reminds me, the wait for an iOS6 jailbreak will be painful. Any news of work on them using the betas?

Won't really matter until they have hardware in hand.. a software exploit can be blocked by a hardware fix, its why the AppleTV3's haven't been hacked yet proper.
 
They're obviously talking about getting a new unique Google number to give to all your friends, or switching carriers to Sprint to make your number and the Google number one and the same.

Yeah.. which has absolutely nothing to do with my original point, and being forced to create a new number isn't functionally equivalent to having texts to your current # intelligently being sent to devices that you've enabled iMessage on using your Apple ID.

Which is why I have a problem with condescending statements such as 'Uh, buddy you know product X can do this too, right' when in reality that isn't the case at all, at least in terms of functionality for most people.
 
So wait, on launch day iOS6 won't have a dedicated YouTube app? Fucking hell.

And I can view and respond to my texts on my iPad? How? Sorry for the ignorance.

I'm sorry, what exactly is wrong with the mobile site? It has loads more functionality. I haven't used the Youtube app in ages. And yes, Google will have its own app. I really don't see how this is a bad thing.
 
I'm honestly not sure what I would use a jailbreak for at this point. I get pretty much everything I want from the base OS these days.
 
I'm honestly not sure what I would use a jailbreak for at this point. I get pretty much everything I want from the base OS these days.

The only thing I used jailbreak for was to allow internet tethering on 02 (UK). I've just transfered my service to Virgin Media and internet tethering is already set up in the menu. No additional costs. Fuck you 02.
 
Fuck off to the duders hatin' on widgets :-)

Other than modularity, its THE reason I'm still on android, and not just a bullet point. I don't care HOW they do it, I just hope Apple does it (and better than the shit notification system).

That or Google one day gets Android running as consistent as iOS does on its shipping iPhone model.


That would be really nice, but at this point, since it's so obvious, I imagine they'd be treading on some spiky patents with that one.

You have seen Android's notification tray, haven't you? I wouldn't worry about litigation over something that's not even an android feature.
 
I'm honestly not sure what I would use a jailbreak for at this point. I get pretty much everything I want from the base OS these days.

It's little things that just makes the OS more enjoyable.

Quick settings toggles

Themes

Ability to change default browser/app

Unlimited apps in folder

'Real' multitasking (although its quite useless compared to apple's app switcher)

Facetime over cellular

Tethering

A real file system

More multitouch gestures

Tweaks to make siri 100x better

Widgets

Etc.

A lot of the existing iOS features like sharing to social media sites, pull down notification bar, app store, etc were available way before their iOS counterparts

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Just looks a hell of a lot better than stock as well
 
The only widget I use on my nexus 7 is the clock one to get fast access to my alarms lol. And quick toggles of course.

They need to just make the time clickable in the notifcation tray, it's only makes sense right next to the clickable settings and rotation. >=|
 
The only widget I use on my nexus 7 is the clock one to get fast access to my alarms lol. And quick toggles of course.


Less time spent in an app for me, the better.

I have a scrollable Google reader widget for quick headline glance, a weather widget that visually shows which part of the day rain is expected and how much (important for my job), a Google plus scrollable feeds widget to see if anything interesting is being posted, and last, three music players with skip/play controls (gmusic, groove shark, and Pandora). Some of these widgets are sharing a page as well (the music ones work like a rack system).

Widgets may not seem important to some, but blanket statements like them being 90% shit or whatever is silly.
 
There have been questions about the security of iMessage and calls for demonstration of its claimed safety but Apple users dont really talk about that stuff
iMessages are encrypted, the text at least. End to end apparently (so no decryption on Apple's servers?).
 
I'm sorry, what exactly is wrong with the mobile site? It has loads more functionality. I haven't used the Youtube app in ages. And yes, Google will have its own app. I really don't see how this is a bad thing.

Mobile site is not what I'm after, I'd prefer an app. If Google doesn't release a new YouTube app to replace the old rubbish one, that's a bad thing to me. I'm sorry that hurts you.

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Just looks a hell of a lot better than stock as well

Wow. Are those themes usable, or just mock ups?
 
Apple needs to re-invent their lock page, it is absolutely pathetic compared to what you COULD do with it, and the lame implmentation of notifications just isn't enough.

A shame, so much potential with the slide to unlock.
 
same here, i dont have any real complaints.

Same here.

I've had my iPhone 4 since launch day and I'm going to just keep it for another 2 years or till it breaks.

As it is now, IMO smartphones have reached their peak. Anything else like bigger screens and CPU is just fluff.

That's why a lot of this arguing is moot.

What are apple gonna use to get me to up sell? Siri? Don't make me laugh!
 
+1 to the quick toggles. Other Widgets haven't been much use for me so far, and I've found I much prefer a well built app. Having a Nexus 7 - whole being a great device - has cooled me on moving to Android on my phone.

Google Now is the only thing I'd like to move to that space, but I don't really keep my web history on so there's not much point. Android has some nice base customization features, but the tablet scratches that itch.

If there's anything I'm going to move from iPhone for at this point it would probably be one of the new Nokias. I'm a little more willing to do that as the iPad would keep me up to date with ios games and apps.
 
Airdroid doesnt work that way numble says as far as I know. There have been questions about the security of iMessage and calls for demonstration of its claimed safety but Apple users dont really talk about that stuff

First I've heard of that. Why don't you supply some credible links to these 'security concerns'? iMessage is a million times more secure than regular texting, which is vulnerable to spoofing, regardless of platform. iMessages are encrypted and authenticated, much like BBM. Instead of accusing 'apple users' of 'not wanting to talk' about something, why don't you enlighten us with the sobering truth?
 
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