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Azorius/Golgari as the top/bottom is definitely intentional. In the flavor pieces they've done those two guilds seem to recognize that they're both super essential to keeping the place functioning, even if they have vastly different approaches to doing so.
Better one than five.
You'll get no disagreement from me on that one. 0 was better then 1 though.
divisionbyzorro
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Skill testing cards are important for limited, both at the high and low ends. I like that this is in the set, even though I wouldn't touch it with a ten foot pole.
The Technomancer
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Important for the game as a whole as well. They've talked in the past about how they feel that learning that some cards that look good are actually bad is an important part of "getting into" Magic.
There are an absurd amount of people who think the new Demon is good, for instance.
Well it is kinda ridiculous in casual since it makes all your creatures double in power each time they connect.
That's a Vampire, not a Demon.
divisionbyzorro
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Weird.
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
Weird.
Seemingly par for the course these days. 1B conditional creature destruction. Essentially Go for the Throat for Ravnica
WanderingWind
Mecklemore Is My Favorite Wrapper
Weird.
Well, that'll be useless outside of block.
divisionbyzorro
Member
It kinda falls into the Victim of Night/Go for the Throat category. 2cc removal that doesn't attack the current set.
narcosis219
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You mean in block? It hits everything outside of this multicolored block, much like go for the throat did. There are way more mono colored creatures outside of ravnica than in
That's a Vampire, not a Demon.
Oh crap, that's true.
They have two types of black fat creatures! It's not fair.
http://www.twitch.tv/bmkibler/popout
Brian Kibler is streaming M13 draft right now and is in the process of drafting the worst deck in human history. Come enjoy the awkwardness.
Brian Kibler is streaming M13 draft right now and is in the process of drafting the worst deck in human history. Come enjoy the awkwardness.
Is he drunk? I enjoy his drunk drafting
Thats a pretty epic deck. Also, I LOVE HIS HAT this week. Looks like something from Digimon or something
League of Legends. They were HUGE at PAX Prime
divisionbyzorro
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divisionbyzorro
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PITHING NEEDLE
Also, this thing.
Also, this thing.
WanderingWind
Mecklemore Is My Favorite Wrapper
I get to play with pithing needle!!!!!!!
Feels like another Snapcaster hoser to me.
EDIT: Shuts down Gravecrawler as well. I approve.
Thank the lord Pithing Needle is back. That's one of the few cards that should be in standard into perpetuity. If they print a broken Planeswalker again, this fixes it.
Love that 2-drop for red. Will be a RDW staple if RDW is a deck post rotation. Does a great job punishing control. Oh, and he tells Gravecrawler to go guck himself
Love that 2-drop for red. Will be a RDW staple if RDW is a deck post rotation. Does a great job punishing control. Oh, and he tells Gravecrawler to go guck himself
WanderingWind
Mecklemore Is My Favorite Wrapper
Yeah, and nobody wants to play with Ash Zealot. Seriously, guys. Terrible card. Nobody play it, okay? Let's make a pact.
What is RDW losing with rotation?
Dat presalt.
divisionbyzorro
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A fantastic card for creature decks to bring in against zombies as well.
And RDW will definitely be a deck post rotation with shocklands running around. Against multicolored decks, there's a good chance RDW only needs to hit 18 or 16 damage to win instead of 20, which is huge.
Shrine of Burning Rage is a huge loss.
WanderingWind
Mecklemore Is My Favorite Wrapper
Shrine of burning rage...and uh, nothing that I can think of. RDW isn't exactly setting the world of fire right now though, so he probably meant if RDW is actually a thing.
And no salt. Just trying to help y'all out. It's just a terrible card that will just make you lose the game. I don't want to see that happen to you guys.
divisionbyzorro
Member
Weird.
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
The sheer quantity of graveyard hate is weird to me.
divisionbyzorro
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But that's not graveyard hate.
That either cycles your graveyard or mills your opponent equal to the size of your graveyard.
So it's really, really weird.
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
Oh no, I was talking about red girl, didn't see the blue thing.
crimsonspider89
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Azorius with this to mill and bring back control cards after played.
Shrine of Burning Rage
Chandra's Phoenix
Stormblood Berserker
Galvanic Blast (and Shock)
Gut Shot
Dismember
Volt Charge
Koth of the Hammer
Incinerate
So... Like the whole deck
Snapcaster Mage/Delver. Multiple formats. That's why.
It's pretty obvious considering the previous block.
I don't mind Wizard's printing hosers, and overall I think they do a good job, but the reasons they give in their articles are so dumb.
The Cavern one was stupid ("we didn't like Snapcaster + Mana Leak... we wanted some better fixing for creature decks... so we put the answers on the same card"). The new one for Ash Zealot is bullshit as well
And then he tops it off with this.
Oh, so it is about Snapcaster.
Psychic Spiral could be an interesting alt wincon for a self mill deck.
The Cavern one was stupid ("we didn't like Snapcaster + Mana Leak... we wanted some better fixing for creature decks... so we put the answers on the same card"). The new one for Ash Zealot is bullshit as well
It's apparently not just about Snapcaster, in their testing they had a lot of decks doing interesting things with flashback (not necessarily powerful) and they wanted to mess with them. As if Forbidden Alchemy was something they needed to put hurt on :/
And then he tops it off with this.
Oh, so it is about Snapcaster.
Psychic Spiral could be an interesting alt wincon for a self mill deck.
divisionbyzorro
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I think you're missing the point. What other cheap flash creatures are in Standard right now? Ambush Viper? Okay, but nobody ever runs that thing. It's important that you don't swing with this thing, have your opponent flash in Snapcaster before blocks, and trade. If it dies to more expensive flash creatures, oh well - they're bigger and better and supposed to beat it. But Snapcaster shouldn't beat this thing on the axis of creature combat.
Keru_Shiri
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I'm in love with Ash Zealot. I just wish RDW had enough viable cards to actually be a deck.
We have...
Bonfire of the Damned
StromKirk Noble
Hellrider
Searing Spear
Slumbering Dragon (lol)
and maybe Guttersnipe
and little else. It's still going to be awhile before mono-red comes back in style.
We have...
Bonfire of the Damned
StromKirk Noble
Hellrider
Searing Spear
Slumbering Dragon (lol)
and maybe Guttersnipe
and little else. It's still going to be awhile before mono-red comes back in style.
WanderingWind
Mecklemore Is My Favorite Wrapper
I've brewed up an interesting frame of a mono-red goblin burny deck. Right now, it's too reliant on Krenko/Hellrider/Bonfire to be top tier, but I'm holding out hope for some help from RTR.
WanderingWind
Mecklemore Is My Favorite Wrapper
Like, too money expensive for me. But I don't think 4cmc is too mana intensive.
Keru_Shiri
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How does Krenko work without Chieftain? That seemed to be the common concern when I was initially playtesting Goblins.
He is. Mono-red really wants to top out it's curve, ideally, at 3, with maybe a couple of 4 cmc finishers (Koth, Hellrider, Hero of Oxid Ridge). Anything beyond that slows the deck down way too much.
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