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[ezekial45]

Well, the first game hasn't even sold over 350K in the US yet so what do you expect?

Is that true? That's really heartbreaking if it is.. I doubt blame SEGA for cancelling it if that's the case.

 

[EmCeeGramr]

We are really going to have a full-blown Console War again aren't we? Peace has made me naive, but now I see that this is just the beginning.

VICTORY HAS DEFEATED YOU

 

[beelzebozo]

if nintendo actually promotes this, i'll be way impressed. i can't even imagine them pushing it hard.

 

[Kagari]

Is that true? That's really heartbreaking if it is.. I doubt blame SEGA for cancelling it if that's the case.

Yes. Which is why all the whining in this thread is really moot.

 

[KojiKnight]

Is that true? That's really heartbreaking if it is.. I doubt blame SEGA for cancelling it if that's the case.

Can however blame them for their lack of marketing.

 

[shintoki]

Well, the first game hasn't even sold over 350K in the US yet so what do you expect?

I'm laughing and crying.

 

[Jintor]

NEXT WEEK IN GAMES MAGAZINES

I just realised that we might have to actually start paying attention every time Kamiya trolls us now :T

 

[Terrell]

I've been thinking the same thing.

Nintendo is in the position right now to dominate the Japanese console gaming market. In the next year alone it'll have a NSMB game, a Monster Hunter game and a Dragon Quest game. Considering that line up, and the fact that it's going to have about a year head start over its competition... it would probably be in a Japanese dev's best interest to support the Wii U.

Funny, I predicted that exact thing and the return of 3rd-party exclusives would come to pass back in... like, MARCH or something? Got laughed out because APPARENTLY the game industry would NEVER do such a thing.

Funny how that word "never" always seems to get mis-used around here.

 

[Crash Station]

Well, the first game hasn't even sold over 350K in the US yet so what do you expect?

 

[ezekial45]

Can however blame them for their lack of marketing.

I saw a bunch of tv spots for it. I mean who could forget the La Roux tv commercial?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPJTf01_W1Q

I think that a lot of people were just put off by the art style. Which got a lot of flak. It's a shame, too. It's the best action this generation. Far better than DMC and any other action games.

 

[Barack Lesnar]

Some people are going nuts, I mean, freaking death threats? What the hell.

It was one guy on Twitter. I wonder if that's going to become 'canon' now, how there were all these death threats and horrible shit said to Kamiya from across the Internet when in reality it was one idiot on Twitter. Duffy said it better than I can:

Has someone compiled a list of the freakouts in this thread? From what I can tell, there are about twenty times less freakouts than the people mocking them.

Wasn't there only one "death threat" too? Not to say the kid wasn't stupid, but to say that Kamiya is "getting death threats" seems incredibly exaggerated, like everything else.

 

[watership]

We are almost halfway to the amount of posts in the Bayo 1 OT. Just wanted to point that out.

Seriously question. How much do people think B2 will sell?

 

[Azure J]

Funny, I predicted that exact thing would come to pass back in... like, MARCH or something?

I proposed a similar theory way back during the 01.net days. While I'm not as eloquent as a ShockingAlberto or Kajima post, I did ask whether or not this was Nintendo's strategy. The idea is for them to basically eat up/entice all the little/smaller guys with promising stuff on both sides of the world to have content to fall back on while they prepared their usual Mario/Zelda/Metroid/Kirby/Pokemon/Smash/Underutilized IP fare. They'd go "next-gen" enough with their console that these developers aren't overwhelmed when their only other prospects are behemoths in PS4/720 and try to stay competitive in terms of quantity versus technicality.

Would be extremely cool to see this go down imo.

 

[zroid]

if nintendo actually promotes this, i'll be way impressed. i can't even imagine them pushing it hard.

As a self-published near-launch title? They'll be wanting to push all of those as hard as they can, I think. Early software sales are key for building a healthy platform.

 

[Riposte]

the truth. P=Pikmin

I don't suppose you are actually being serious?

 

[Charoncaori]

Well, the first game hasn't even sold over 350K in the US yet so what do you expect?

I really hope Nintendo can do some good marketing of this. I know I was mocking the game for its tastelessness before I actually played it at a con.

 

[Thunder Monkey]

Seriously question. How much do people think B2 will sell?

We don't even know how much and to who the WiiU is going to sell.

 

[Barack Lesnar]

Well, the first game hasn't even sold over 350K in the US yet so what do you expect?

Seriously? this thread almost has more views lol although a lot are probably repeat views, still.

 

[Thunder Monkey]

Seriously? this thread almost has more views lol although a lot are probably repeat views, still.

I will never understand fighting solely because of a corporation.

 

[Fine Ham Abounds]

It was one guy on Twitter. I wonder if that's going to become 'canon' now, how there were all these death threats and horrible shit said to Kamiya from across the Internet when in reality it was one idiot on Twitter. Duffy said it better than I can:

One is too many, even if obviously just some rattled fan. As for the rest, you'll note you're preaching to the choir.

 

[Chet Rippo]

Seriously? this thread almost has more views lol although a lot are probably repeat views, still.

 

[ThatObviousUser]

VICTORY HAS DEFEATED YOU

Gamers: We paid you a small amount of sales...

Platinum: And you think this gives you power over me?

 

[EmCeeGramr]

I will never understand fighting solely because of a corporation.

Listen here sonny, my pappy put his life on the line for the British East India Company

 

[Infinite Justice]

I just realised that we might have to actually start paying attention every time Kamiya trolls us now :T

Yea didn't he post the same graphic as a troll on twitter?.

 

[viciouskillersquirrel]

Listen here sonny, my pappy put his life on the line for the British East India Company

You must be like 90 years old.

 

[EVOL 100%]

Listen here sonny, my pappy put his life on the line for the British East India Company

LOL

EmCeeGramr has been killing it in this thread.

 

[Crash Station]

Seriously question. How much do people think B2 will sell?

Kind of tough to make a prediction now. Being early in the console's life could either be a blessing or a curse. It is a sequel to a critically acclaimed game, so that should help it, but it's impossible to know just how much all this butthurt will extend to actual sales.

 

[Thunder Monkey]

Listen here sonny, my pappy put his life on the line for the British East India Company

Well he did have that Opium addiction.

 

[RedSwirl]

They could have obtained, say, Vanquish 2, which is a safer bet than Bayo. This will also establish a good partnership with Platinum Games.

We don't know that they haven't...

 

[SteeloDMZ]

Nintendo should pull out a Fatal Frame and buy the rights to the IP. hmmm

Even though she was an oversexualized character, Bayonetta is a wacky, fun and unique character that's a great addition to the Nintendo universe.

 

[Thunder Monkey]

You must be like 90 years old.

He's older than his damn grandfather!

I have no clue how it's even possible.

 

[shinra-bansho]

Are people still considering this a third-party exclusive, despite Nintendo footing the publishing bill, for some reason?

Seriously question. How much do people think B2 will sell?

Few hundred thousand worldwide, maybe half a million.

 

[ArynCrinn]

We don't know that they haven't...

Without Mikami I think Vanquish 2 is kind of a moot point. Besides it doesn't really need a sequel, it was a complete package as it was.

 

[ThatObviousUser]

Nintendo should pull out a Fatal Frame and buy the rights to the IP. hmmm

Fairly certain they have, from the language in the PR. They might be co-owners with Sega.

 

[Amagon]

This thread must have broken the fucking record for the amount of post in one day in a new thread.

Correct me if I'm wrong.

 

[Beth Cyra]

Are people still considering this a third-party exclusive, despite Nintendo footing the publishing bill, for some reason?

If Sega still own the Ip then it is. The game couldn't be made, no matter how much money they offered if Sega wasn't willing to allow the game to be made given it's their Ip.

 

[Fine Ham Abounds]

He's older than his damn grandfather!

I have no clue how it's even possible.

*Quantum Leap title music*

 

[viciouskillersquirrel]

He's older than his damn grandfather!

I have no clue how it's even possible.

 

[ohlawd]

Nintendo should pull out a Fatal Frame and buy the rights to the IP. hmmm

Nope. Your crystal ball powers are gone forevah.

 

[shinra-bansho]

If Sega still own the Ip then it is. The game couldn't be made, no matter how much money they offered if Sega wasn't willing to allow the game to be made given it's their Ip.

Epic owns Gears of War. I'm pretty sure Heavy Rain is owned by Quantic Dream.

I don't consider those games to be third party exclusives.

 

[EatChildren]

Jeanne is a poor man's Bayonetta. She can stick to being the co-op tack-on.

 

[SteeloDMZ]

I feel like replaying Bayonetta now. It was one of the few games that I started playing again as soon as I finished. So devilishly good.

 

[Beth Cyra]

Epic owns Gears of War.

I don't consider those games to be third party exclusives.

Epic can take and turn Gears of War into a multiplatform title at any time they so choose and Microsoft can't do a thing to stop them.

So long as the IP is owned by a third party, and the third party choose to enter a deal to have a game be exclusive, it's still a 3rd Party exclusive.

Now if Nintendo did by co-rights to Bayo? Then sure, it would be first party, but until we get info like that it would still be Sega entering a contract and choosing to allow a non Nintendo owned Ip be exclusive to their platform-there for a 3rd Party Exclusive.

 

[Roto13]

Vanquish sold almost nothing, you guys. Bayonetta was a smashing success in comparison.

 

[Coxy]

Are people still considering this a third-party exclusive, despite Nintendo footing the publishing bill, for some reason?

did people consider ninja gaiden one? seems like the same kinda thing?

 

[Fine Ham Abounds]

Jeanne is a poor man's Bayonetta. She can stick to being the co-op tack-on.

I can't tell if you're trolling or if my opinion of you just went up.

See this is the kind of thing we should really be arguing about.

 

[whalleywhat]

Seriously question. How much do people think B2 will sell?

I'm certain of at least one copy.

 

[Crash Station]

This thread must have broken the fucking record for the amount of post in one day in a new thread.

Correct me if I'm wrong.

Keynote threads? Hell, it's not even close even without those.

 

[DukeTogo1300]

Saves the day, as usual.

 

[Box of Bunnies]

So it just occured to me:

Bayonetta + Nintendo = unlockable Zero Suit costume/Paralyzer weapons?