Mother Jones: "Romney Tells Millionaire Donors What He REALLY Thinks of Obama Voters"

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Poor Mittens, being born into the persecuted white minority. I know that feeling. Any other group even tries to claim racism is worse for them...
 
MorisUkunRasik said:
"It would be helpful to be latino.." ..I know what he means, he would get a lot more of the latino vote if he himself was latino and some will try and twist his words. It still doesn't sit well with me. Had his grandfather and father been latino I doubt he'd even being running for president, let alone for The GOP.
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And that's what he'll never understand. Absolutely no perspective about the struggles that other people face.

It reminds me of people I went to law school complaining that they would've gotten more scholarships "if only" they were a minority or gay or disabled... Fuck those kinds of people.
 
Shake Appeal said:
They're not. They're implicit, and everyone knows it's what many in his party believe, but they are not voiced, not publicly.

You should not be able to win an election in any country while dismissing 47-49% of the electorate as freeloaders with no personal responsibility who expect the government to provide for them. It's a deeply disrespectful and deeply unfair characterization of half the people you intend to govern, and it reeks of open contempt.
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Yes, this exactly.

ElectricBlanketFire said:
He maybe hasn't said it publicly using those exact words, but it has more or less been said.

I guess what I meant was there shouldn't be anything shocking about this video.
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Is it shocking that Romney believes such things? Not terribly. What's remarkable is that he's willing to say it so explicitly, and that it was actually recorded.
 
Shake Appeal said:
You also shouldn't be able to win an election in any country with the downright insane conviction that markets will rally just at the very idea of you as president. Newsflash, fucker, the world outside your borders already hates you. The Conservative leader of your closest ally thinks you're a joke. 94% of French people want Obama re-elected, and Germany isn't far behind. You'd be cancer to America's and the world's recovery.

I didn't actually hate this guy until he kneejerked the embassy deaths for political gain, but I am going to revel in his now inevitable defeat. Fuck off, Mitt Romney. By this time next year you won't even be invited on talk shows. As it should be. You are a living avatar for the worst American tendencies, and I hope your defeat heralds the collapse of Nixonland.
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Newsflash. Obama's appeal to the French populace isn't a winner here. Might want to keep that under wraps.
 
KingGondo said:
And that's what he'll never understand. Absolutely no perspective about the struggles that other people face.

It reminds me of people I went to law school complaining that they would've gotten more scholarships "if only" they were a minority or gay or disabled... Fuck those kinds of people.
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What race were they?
 
You hear that Hollywood?! Sarah Jessica you lazy skank, you. I know Sex and the City 2 did poorly, but that's no reason to mooch off Uncle Sam.
 
Well, I wrote a book that lays out my view for what has to happen in the country, and people who are fascinated by policy will read the book. We have a website that lays out white papers on a whole series of issues that I care about. I have to tell you, I don't think this will have a significant impact on my electability. I wish it did. I think our ads will have a much bigger impact. I think the debates will have a big impact....My dad used to say, "Being right early is not good in politics." And in a setting like this, a highly intellectual subject—discussion on a whole series of important topics typically doesn't win elections. And there are, there are, there are—for instance, this president won because of "hope and change."
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Mitt is refreshingly cynical about the level of public discourse in American elections, but depressingly unwilling to do something about one of the two parties that dragged it this low.
 
Wow, that is the most emotion I've ever seen from Mitt. Unfortunately that emotion was disdain directed at the poor, but still... he might be human!

As for why this is news, while these sentiments have been heard from many Republicans in the past, it's rare we ever see one lay it out this plainly. It's even rarer to see Romney say these things, and with such conviction!
 
Most of my relatives say or think this at least once a week.
 
During a private fundraiser earlier this year, Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney told a small group of wealthy contributors what he truly thinks of all the voters who support President Barack Obama. He dismissed these Americans as freeloaders who pay no taxes, who don't assume responsibility for their lives, and who think government should take care of them.
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Why are they presenting this as some kind of revelation? He and the GOP have made no secret of the fact that they see Dems this way.
 
I don't think it is that controversial what he is saying. It is basically the GOP platform + him telling donors that the messaging of "let's lower taxes" isn't going to resonate with swing voters or democratic voters who pay no income tax to begin with.
 
It's funny that when Romney loses, his defeat will not convince the Republican party that they have veered too far to the right, and that they have become nothing more than a running joke in American politics. They'll just say that they lost '08 and '12 due to their candidates being insufficiently conservative, and move even farther to the right.

Rand Paul '16.
 
AlteredBeast said:
I don't think it is that controversial what he is saying. It is basically the GOP platform + him telling donors that the messaging of "let's lower taxes" isn't going to resonate with swing voters or democratic voters who pay no income tax to begin with.
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The Latino and silver spoon shit should be controversial in my opinion.
 
Read the whole article and watched all the videos.
Romney comes off like an 80s movie villain.
Seriously, the manifestation of a "Rich Asshole."
 
For an interesting contrast check out this article recently posted in PoliGAF:
http://www.salon.com/2012/09/10/why_i_left_the_gop/

We believed in competition and the free market, in bootstraps and personal responsibility, in equality of opportunity, not outcomes. We were financial conservatives who wanted less government. We believed in noblesse oblige, for we saw ourselves as part of a natural aristocracy, even if we hadn’t been born into it. We sided with management over labor and saw unions as a scourge. We hated racism and loved Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., particularly his dream that his children would “live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character.” We worried about the rise of the Religious Right and its social-conservative litmus tests. We were tough on crime, tough on national enemies. We believed in business, full stop.
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That night, I told my roommates about the crazy thing I had heard that day. Apparently there were people out there who had never been to something as basic as a real restaurant. Who knew?

One of my roommates wasn’t surprised. He worked at a local bank branch that required two forms of ID to open an account. Lots of people came in who had only one or none at all.

I was flooded with questions: There are adults who have no ID? And no bank accounts? Who are these people? How do they vote? How do they live? Is there an entire off-the-grid alternate universe out there?
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Was it to protect our Republican version of “individual responsibility”? That notion is fundamental to the liberal Republican worldview. “Bootstrapping” and “equality of opportunity, not outcomes” make perfect sense if you assume, as I did, that people who hadn’t risen into my world simply hadn’t worked hard enough, or wanted it badly enough, or had simply failed. But I had assumed that bootstrapping required about as much as it took to get yourself promoted from junior varsity to varsity. It turns out that it’s more like pulling yourself up from tee-ball to the World Series. Sure, some people do it, but they’re the exceptions, the outliers, the Olympians.
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the worst thing about this is, that when people do hustle hard and work and pay what they can in taxes....yes the government should use those tax dollars to take care of its citizens...what else are the tax dollars for?
 
AlteredBeast said:
I don't think it is that controversial what he is saying.
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Controversial from the perspective of Republicans used to only speaking in veiled terms publicly about what Mitt is saying forthright here. Not news per se, but certainly makes it easier to call them on it.
 
And yet they all pay a higher tax % than he does.

Zaph said:
America, seriously, how is this guy even a contender for your presidency?

The disdain and cynicism he has for anyone who isn't just like himself is so incredibly blatant.
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Republicans have to nominate someone and believe it or not Romney was the least insane one running. I'm serious.
 
DonasaurusRex said:
the worst thing about this is, that when people do hustle hard and work and pay what they can in taxes....yes the government should use those tax dollars to take care of its citizens...what else are the tax dollars for?
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That part is at least semi-sorta-consistent, because he also claims to be for lowering taxes and shrinking government.
 
Electoral polling before the election was Obama:241 Romney 191. After the conventions, and after Mitt's idiotic response to the murders in Libya: Obama: 316 Romney 206.

Expect to see a lot of desperation on the Romney campaigns part as the numbers in Obama's favor creep higher and higher. An insider with the Romney campaign claimed they're thinking about actually detailing their plans if they do win. One would think they'd naturally want to tell people that upfront before they vote, but I guess not. Paul Ryan is said to be fighting against it.
 
Shake Appeal said:
They're not. They're implicit, and everyone knows it's what many in his party believe, but they are not voiced, not publicly.

You should not be able to win an election in any country while dismissing 47-49% of the electorate as freeloaders with no personal responsibility who expect the government to provide for them. It's a deeply disrespectful and deeply unfair characterization of half the people you intend to govern, and it reeks of open contempt.
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The Republican strategy, starting with the Southern strategy in the '70s, has been to rile up their base of rural or suburban mid-West lower-educated white Christian voters by constantly feeding them an insidious narrative about "others" who don't share their "values," who aren't real Americans, who want to destroy this country, who sympathize with terrorists and who are just terrible people who need to be defeated. Their strategy is to demonize and evoke contempt for the half of the country that doesn't agree with them as being less than them. This is the founding mantra of Roger Ailes and FOX News, and it's the guiding philosophy or Sarah Palin. In her nomination speech, she made a crack about "San Francisco values" and said that the "real America" is in small towns, as if the people who live in SF and big cities are somehow less American and less worthy of her consideration in a national office.

Democrats don't do this, certainly not on the national stage. Barack Obama has never pointed at a city however small and said "These people don't deserve to be heard." He has never said "Conservatives don't share my core values and that makes them un-American." Democrats aren't perfect, but their philosophy is to be the party of inclusion, which means trying to serve the best interests of all the people in the country, not just the ones who agree with you and who vote for you.
 
Shake Appeal said:
Thankfully, they're not running for President of the United States. Mitt Romney is apparently happy to dismiss 150+ million of the people that he wants to one day represent.
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Of course he is. Congress, the past few years, has done nothing but show us that they are in it for all or nothing; no compromise whatsoever. Who cares about the other half of the country. They hide their intent to establish complete party control, to bully any proportional representation via the democrat elect out of all discussion, behind the threat that your core values are under attack; that compromising can never be an option with people who are so wrong.
 
The Technomancer said:
That part is at least semi-sorta-consistent, because he also claims to be for lowering taxes and shrinking government.
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Meanwhile...

http://articles.businessinsider.com...039546_1_blue-states-federal-taxes-red-states

Yes, that's right. Red States — the ones governed by folks who think government is too big and spending needs to be cut — are a net drain on the economy, taking in more federal spending than they pay out in federal taxes. They talk a good game, but stick Blue States with the bill.
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faceless007 said:
The Republican strategy, starting with the Southern strategy in the '70s, has been to rile up their base of rural or suburban mid-West lower-educated white Christian voters by constantly feeding them an insidious narrative about "others" who don't share their "values," who aren't real Americans, who want to destroy this country, who sympathize with terrorists and who are just terrible people who need to be defeated. Their strategy is to demonize and evoke contempt for the half of the country that doesn't agree with them as being less than them. This is the founding mantra of Roger Ailes and FOX News, and it's the guiding philosophy or Sarah Palin. In her nomination speech, she made a crack about "San Francisco values" and said that the "real America" is in small towns, as if the people who live in SF and big cities are somehow less American and less worthy of her consideration in a national office.

Democrats don't do this, certainly not on the national stage. Barack Obama has never pointed at a city however small and said "These people don't deserve to be heard." He has never said "Conservatives don't share my core values and that makes them un-American." Democrats aren't perfect, but their philosophy is to be the party of inclusion, which means trying to serve the best interests of all the people in the country, not just the ones who agree with you and who vote for you.
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Their problem: Demographic change has started to destroy the viability of that strategy.
 
Dear non-Americans:

Yes, there are sadly millions of people who feel this way. Yes, this is what we deal with on a regular basis. Yes, we see how screwed up this is and are trying hard to change it. Please give us 20 years.
 
Romney was sent to make Bush look good by comparison. That's the only way I will believe everything he's said and done thus far. Or maybe their 2016 candidate won't look so bad by comparison either. Whatever is the case, Romney is the GOP's rock bottom candidate. I can't fathom a much worse choice than him.
 
Koomaster said:
Romney was sent to make Bush look good by comparison. That's the only way I will believe everything he's said and done thus far. Or maybe their 2016 candidate won't look so bad by comparison either. Whatever is the case, Romney is the GOP's rock bottom candidate. I can't fathom a much worse choice than him.
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Gingrich
Santorum
Bachman
 
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