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[sonicmj1]

ZOMG a flip flopper! It's the over riding perception that a candidate is malleable, as opposed to flexible, were he or she to change a position.

At least I think that's what it is.

I think what people don't want is someone who is opportunistic, who changes their tune to whatever side will get them the most votes. That shows a lack of principle.

"Flip-flopping" can also seem negative as something that shows the candidate lacks confidence. It might seem to some that the candidate doesn't have strong ideas or convictions of their own, so they can be swayed easily. Leadership requires confidence.

I think it's good for someone to change their views in the face of new evidence or new perspectives, but I might be suspicious of someone who changes their views depending on how extreme their shifts were, or how quickly those views changed. For instance, Mitt Romney seems to attempt to hold almost all views simultaneously without committing to any of them. That makes it hard for me to trust him.

 

[Shake Appeal]

Aren't tax cuts for the rich redistribution, too?

Yes, because the decreased revenue could and would have been spent on programs and other initiatives intended to protect and aid the under-, working and middle classes. All government involvement in people's financial affairs is artificial and involves choices made on the part of said government, and those that preceded them, to direct what they believe to be the best outcomes for the nation's economy, and for its constituent economic actors.

People only call the government's inherent and unavoidable 'interference' in individuals' wealth (which wealth is entirely fucking contingent upon the existence of said government and related entities in the first place) 'redistribution' when it attacks the wealthiest -- who, by virtue of being the wealthiest, are able to raise the largest opposition or outcry.

 

[Frank the Great]

the military is created through redistribution of wealth from the vast majority of americans not affiliated with military service. i wonder if republicans now oppose the military.

 

[FyreWulff]

It's fine for people to change their mind. Romney does it so fast and then pretends he never held the previous position, even with overwhelming evidence that he did, to the point that he has recorded speeches and appearances where he held that view, and makes no attempt to say "Well, I changed my mind because...". It's just so blatant that he's changed what he agrees with publically to chase the hardcore party members and fit into the GOP national party mold.

The Dems may be like herding cats but they're at least not eating their young like the GOP do.

 

[ElectricBlue187]

the military is created through redistribution of wealth from the vast majority of americans not affiliated with military service. i wonder if republicans now oppose the military.

its only wealth redistribution if they do NOT directly benefit, so the military industrial complex does not apply there.

 

[la flama blanca]

lol

 

[Irnbru]

I don't understand this attitude that no matter how wrong or damaging your initial position on any issue, that changing your mind for any reason at all is a sign if deplorable, if not dangerous, weakness.

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[Omegasquash]

I think what people don't want is someone who is opportunistic, who changes their tune to whatever side will get them the most votes. That shows a lack of principle.

"Flip-flopping" can also seem negative as something that shows the candidate lacks confidence. It might seem to some that the candidate doesn't have strong ideas or convictions of their own, so they can be swayed easily. Leadership requires confidence.

I think it's good for someone to change their views in the face of new evidence or new perspectives, but I might be suspicious of someone who changes their views depending on how extreme their shifts were, or how quickly those views changed. For instance, Mitt Romney seems to attempt to hold almost all views simultaneously without committing to any of them. That makes it hard for me to trust him.

Well that's the thing...it can be one or the other. IMO, Romney flip-flopped on marriage equality to gain votes in the primaries. In MA, the support for it is amazing. Hell, take a look at Richard Tisei (openly gay republican running for a seat in my congressional district). Romney supported equality for it too, and his health care work in MA served as the template for the ACA. He changed on that one too.

 

[viciouskillersquirrel]

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Mitt?