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[The Technomancer]

So are you liberal Gaffer's complaining or laughing... I can't tell.

Complaining about the contents of the comment (in the wealthiest nation on the face of the planet I would hope citizens would feel entitled to not starve to death), laughing at the fallout its causing.

 

[gutter_trash]

so Republicans hate both the uneducated poor and the elite smart people.

 

[BotoxAgent]

so romney, about those tax returns? or are you just going to keep telling people to fuck off?

 

[Buddha Beam]

And here we go. Dot gif.

Well, let's see. Definitely Florida is the first to go.

Then Texas. South Carolina. Oh, Kansas. Definitely Kansas. Oklahoma. And California is going to break off and sink in a few years anyway, so we may as well cut ties now. Mississippi and Alabama continue to be an ongoing embarrassment too, so we can dump them. Arizona, of course.
...and finally, Washington DC.

That ought to at least be close, right?

Or we could just give back Alaska to the Canadians.

 

[Jason's Ultimatum]

what's funny is that if the south was cut off from the map, those states wouldn't be able to function with no government support.

 

[ReBurn]

Well, let's see. Definitely Florida is the first to go.

Then Texas. South Carolina. Oh, Kansas. Definitely Kansas. Oklahoma. And California is going to break off and sink in a few years anyway, so we may as well cut ties now. Mississippi and Alabama continue to be an ongoing embarrassment too, so we can dump them. Arizona, of course.
...and finally, Washington DC.

That ought to at least be close, right?

Or we could just give back Alaska to the Canadians.

Did Alaska ever belong to the Canadians?

 

[gutter_trash]

Did Alaska ever belong to the Canadians?

nope, it belonged to the Russian Empire, they sold it to Americans

 

[Buddha Beam]

Did Alaska ever belong to the Canadians?

Turns out they didn't. Huh. I learned something new today.

Well, whatever. We'll just sell it to the Canadians.

 

[Rhomega Beta]

EDIT: Beaten

 

[thefit]

what's funny is that if the south was cut off from the map, those states wouldn't be able to function with no government support.

They would all jump their borders to the north leaving us with a hole new slew of immigrants not even willing to pick tomatoes for a living.

 

[Ferrio]

nope, it belonged to the Russian Empire, they sold it to Americans

Come on kids... Seward's folly.. thought everyone learned this in school.

 

[Dude Abides]

I consider it to be significant because this is the first time we've seen the GOP's *actual* platform laid bare by the candidate himself in unflinching terms.

For those of us who pay attention, it isn't shocking--but for those voters who still think the GOP is reasonably moderate, this is absolutely damning evidence.

And Mitt can't explain it away by talking about "context" or whatever. We're talking about paragraph after paragraph of pure derision toward those who are less fortunate than him.

Indies and undecided moderates who see this might not vote for Obama, but they sure as hell won't vote for Mitt either.

That's true. I suppose you might not realize this is what they stand for if you don't pay any attention to conservative media outlets or if you fell for Compassionate Conservatism.

 

[Vicetrailia]

Mitt just "othered" almost a half of the united states population and apply directly to individuals who even support him.

Those guys don't care about their own lives. Can't say they're ALL minorities either. What a guy.

 

[ElectricBlanketFire]

Guys:

"47% of the country" x "You didn't build that" = Zero.

 

[Esch]

That obama truth team picture is killing me.

Not only is it snarky as hell, but notice where they put the scissors? Subtlety....

 

[blackflag]

The crazy thing to me is that he actually thinks that those 47% vote for Obama. I know tons of military in ranks of like e-1 to e-4 that have families and end up paying no taxes. Most get eic......Most vote for Romney. There are a lot of poor people especially in Ky and south that vote republican.

 

[FyreWulff]

And here we go. Dot gif.

Looked at that. Look at where the cut line extends out. Then look at this map:

Not sure if this has been posted? Didn't see it.

Mitt Romney's 47 Percent Disproportionately Live In Republican States

Out of the 10 states with the highest percentage of filers with no liability, all but one — Florida — are reliable Republican stalwarts.

This map, however, only measures Americans who file tax returns without liability. Millions of others have some income, but not enough to file a return. Those people, combined with the 52 million who make up this map, comprise the 47 percent.

Of course, just because people don't pay income taxes doesn't mean they don't pay any taxes at all. Here's another breakdown of the 47 percent, which shows how nearly two-thirds of that 47 percent pay payroll taxes. Most of the last third are comprised of the elderly (who also tend to vote reliably Republican) and people who make less than $20,000 (big Obama supporters).


Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/mitt...ap-red-republican-states-2012-9#ixzz26peEY1cF

:lol

 

[teruterubozu]

Guys:

"47% of the country" x "You didn't build that" = Zero.

So "47% of the country" is the zero integer.

 

[jvm]

The number of women in that YouTube advert is telling. They know to whom they need to speak to win the election.

 

[speculawyer]

The placement of the scissors and starting point not just random?

Edit: Damn you, FyreWulff.

Edit: It is good to see that 2 of the 5 great lakes pay their taxes!

 

[Neuromancer]

And here we go. Dot gif.

YESSS, they are on it!

Check this out. Truth Team pounces. First video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUQ-j2sOA7c&feature=player_embedded

trololol

 

[Cyan]

The crazy thing to me is that he actually thinks that those 47% vote for Obama.

I doubt he actually thinks that. Nor that these people really don't pay taxes, nor that they're dependent on the gov't, etc etc. It's just a useful meme for Republicans.

 

[ElectricBlanketFire]

So "47% of the country" is the zero integer.

I'm saying as devastating to the Romney campaign people are making this comment out to be, people on the opposite side had the same reaction to the "you didn't build that" comment.

Neither one will significantly derail either campaign.

 

[BertramCooper]

The nerve of these people, thinking they're entitled to food.

 

[fallagin]

That obama truth team picture is killing me.

Not only is it snarky as hell, but notice where they put the scissors? Subtlety....

Oh shit, lol.

Spoiler

South Carolina was the first state to secede from the US.

 

[RDreamer]

I'm saying as devastating to the Romney campaign people are making this comment out to be, people on the opposite side had the same reaction to the "you didn't build that" comment.

Neither one will significantly derail either campaign.

If you're trying to say these two comments will have equal impact, then that's a pretty damning critique of the electorate...

 

[speculawyer]

The nerve of these people, thinking they're entitled to food.

And most of those 47% work. They just don't have good-paying the jobs. Romney has raised the bar. It is not enough just to work anymore. You have to have a well-paying job or else you are just a fucking loser that he doesn't give a shit about.

 

[Neuromancer]

WSJ:

Mr. Obama's campaign manager, Jim Messina, said it was "shocking'' that Mr. Romney would say that "half of the American people view themselves as 'victims' entitled to handouts…It's hard to serve as president for all Americans when you've disdainfully written off half the nation."

Yes, yes it is

 

[dcdobson]

I don't know how 'moderates' or independents can exist though, what do they want? If it's someone who's a green party person or socialist then that label is okay but I don't understand independents who plan on choosing either romney or obama? And have no interest in green/socialist/confederate/constitution party stuff. What middle of the line tone do they expect? Do they not see that romney and obama have dramatic sharp differences? Even if democrats and republicans were similar then how would you even know who to vote for besides based on personality? The moderate term just seems like such a weird empty concept.

Moderate here (albeit one who leans to the left on most issues). I'm absolutely voting for Obama this November, but I wouldn't consider myself left-wing enough to adopt the "liberal" label. Ideologically, I probably fit pretty comfortably within the modern Democratic party, but because I see no need to join a political party, I'm okay with remaining independent.

 

[TheNatural]

I was going to try to ignore most political stuff this fall but after this I can't wait to see the debates LOL.

When is the first official one?

 

[fallagin]

And most of those 47% work. They just don't have good-paying the jobs. Romney has raised the bar. It is not enough just to work anymore. You have to have a well-paying job or else you are just a fucking loser that he doesn't give a shit about.

Yep, pretty much. Man fuck Mitt Romney. Fuck that guy who wishes he was hispanic.

 

[ElectricBlanketFire]

If you're trying to say these two comments will have equal impact, then that's a pretty damning critique of the electorate...

I'd say it's a fair, realistic and admittedly cynical critique.

Are you implying that a significant portion of people who were going to vote for Romney have now changed their minds based on these comments?

 

[BertramCooper]

And most of those 47% work. They just don't have good-paying the jobs. Romney has raised the bar. It is not enough just to work anymore. You have to have a well-paying job or else you are just a fucking loser that he doesn't give a shit about.

The fact of the matter is that everyone is entitled to food. Everyone.

I'm hardly some hardcore left-winger, but if you're a living human being, you are entitled to food. Anyone who doesn't believe that is a heartless piece of shit.

 

[TheNatural]

I'd say it's a fair, realistic and admittedly cynical critique.

Are you implying that a significant portion of people who were going to vote for Romney have now changed their minds based on these comments?

No, but he may have just pissed off the apathetic democratic side to say "OK mother fucker, I wasn't going to give a shit this year, but now you just pissed me off enough to vote against you."

His only chance to win was to not fire up that side of people.

 

[ElectricBlanketFire]

No, but he may have just pissed off the apathetic democratic side to say "OK mother fucker, I wasn't going to give a shit this year, but now you just pissed me off enough to vote against you."

His only chance to win was to not fire up that side of people.

That's a good point, but I would say this firing up will only counter, not trump, the firing up from the "you didn't build that" comment.

 

[TacticalFox88]

And most of those 47% work. They just don't have good-paying the jobs. Romney has raised the bar. It is not enough just to work anymore. You have to have a well-paying job or else you are just a fucking loser that he doesn't give a shit about.

The only person I'd say Romney cares about is his wife and kids. Everyone else could go in a ditch and die for all he cares.

 

[jamesinclair]

People forget that the base of the republican party are evangelicals.

Sure, some of them are giant hypocrites, but many actually do understand the bible and realize that calling food and shelter an entitlement doesnt exactly jive with what Jesus taught.

 

[Angry Fork]

This whole flap is kind of silly. Conservatives have considered half the country lazy parasites for decades now. I don't see what is shocking about this.

I think it was the wording that has made it sound worse than it is 'i don't have to worry about them' and saying it's half of the country. Obviously he meant in terms of winning the election since he feels he wouldn't be able to turn them towards his campaign but ordinary people see it as if he doesn't care about them at all (which he doesn't) but expressing that view so candidly isn't good. The fact that it was a hidden camera 'behind closed doors' to wealthy donors just gives it a huge aura of some scandal as if it's a big deal. Romney giving a press conference at 3AM with rushed hair and tie to respond to it just makes it look that much worse.

I don't think it's shocking either but it's amusing and I'm glad it's taken off. I think the other videos are much more interesting like admitting he was born with a silver spoon but then saying he never had entitlements later on in the video or something. There was another where he spoke about how to use Ann Romney 'sparingly' throughout the election so voters don't get tired of her and so on as if talking about a tool. Another about saying the markets would go into a dramatic decline if Obama was re-elected and then a sentence later saying if he was elected he doesn't know what would happen since he can't predict markets. I find those to be a lot more stupid/funny than the 47% thing.

 

[The Technomancer]

People forget that the base of the republican party are evangelicals.

Sure, some of them are giant hypocrites, but many actually do understand the bible and realize that calling food and shelter an entitlement doesnt exactly jive with what Jesus taught.

I know a few who still think that government healthcare is un-Christian because its not relying on the charity of others, its forcing people to pay for others.

 

[TheNatural]

That's a good point, but I would say this firing up will only counter, not trump, the firing up from the "you didn't build that" comment.

Except that Obama was facing the apathy of the typical re-election former supporters, not Romney. There were many, many more to be awakened on Obama's side than Romney's - where the entire Republican campaign for a year now has been harping on that same anti-Obama get him out sentiment for a while now. The same people have been fired up for a while now on that crazy side.

He just pissed off plenty of people in swing states to vote Obama again like in 2008.

 

[Deleted member 17706]

Is this not just about the biggest gaffe in presidential election history?

I mean, actually insulting half of the nation when you are running to represent the entire country? Being outright divisive when your role demands that you at least try to be uniting?

I don't have TV hooked up anymore, but is this incident exploding as it should be?

 

[A Human Becoming]

I wasn't sure before since I didn't pay close attention to the 2008 race, but now I'm confident Romney is a much worse candidate than McCain. For those who remember, is he also worse than Bob Dole?

 

[BertramCooper]

I know a few who still think that government healthcare is un-Christian because its not relying on the charity of others, its forcing people to pay for others.

Which is such a stupid line of thinking, seeing as though we already subsidize the non-insured through horribly inflated hospital costs.

 

[RDreamer]

That's a good point, but I would say this firing up will only counter, not trump, the firing up from the "you didn't build that" comment.

I think this gaffe speaks more to independents than the you didn't build that one. Most indies I know found it ridiculous and out of context. It didn't sway anyone. Not saying this will sway a lot, but there's a bit more potential when it gets explained to someone.

That and Romney's campaign was already in trouble and needed help not more hits.

 

[teruterubozu]

That's a good point, but I would say this firing up will only counter, not trump, the firing up from the "you didn't build that" comment.

I don't know. The anger against "you didn't build that" is faux outrage. I mean really, who gives a fuck who built what. Romney's comments are directly offensive to a specific populace. It certainly fires me up to go to the voting booth (and I was kind of indifferent until yesterday).

 

[LosDaddie]

People forget that the base of the republican party are evangelicals.

Sure, some of them are giant hypocrites, but many actually do understand the bible and realize that calling food and shelter an entitlement doesnt exactly jive with what Jesus taught.

You give conservative Evangelicals too much credit. Many (most?) of them are quite eager to post a scripture (I forget which exact one) stating something along the lines (paraphrasing here) "He who does not work, shall not eat". It was the scripture I saw posted a lot on FB after Obamacare was upheld.

Whoever created the Supply Side Jesus comic really hit it out of the ballpark.

 

[ElectricBlanketFire]

I wasn't sure before since I didn't pay close attention to the 2008 race, but now I'm confident Romney is a much worse candidate than McCain. For those who remember, is he also worse than Bob Dole?

I think the McCain/Palin ticket is the worst in Republican history.

 

[The Technomancer]

Which is such a stupid line of thinking, seeing as though we already subsidize the non-insured through horribly inflated hospital costs.

Tried arguing that, didn't get past stubborn repetitions of "its still the government saying 'pay for other people or we will throw you in jail for tax evasion'" This is a girl I used to date.

 

[TheNatural]

I wasn't sure before since I didn't pay close attention to the 2008 race, but now I'm confident Romney is a much worse candidate than McCain. For those who remember, is he also worse than Bob Dole?

The better question to me is, I thought the Northeast was pretty liberal. How the fuck did Romney even GET to be Governor of Massachusetts?

 

[gutter_trash]

The better question to me is, I thought the Northeast was pretty liberal. How the fuck did Romney even GET to be Governor of Massachusetts?

he campaigned in Boston stating that he was just slightly to the right of Ted Kennedy