2012 First U.S. Presidential Debate |OT| OK Libya... We need a leader, not a reader.

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Oh here we go with "I meet a couple from blah blah blah and they are going to sell their kidneys because they can't afford health care..."
 
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Social Security

Both candidates agrees system is sound with "tweaks."

Medicare

Romney

- Vouchers to those who need. Idea is to give consumers
choice and increase competition. This will reduce costs/prices.
- Obama's plan will ruin health care sector as it unilaterally reduces rates
without encouraging competition.

Obama

- Reduce costs by creating high risk pools, appove more generics
etc.. I think everyone kinda knows what Obamacare is about.

You'd be wrong. average voter has no idea what the hell Obamacare does. This has been proven over, and over and over. They're in favor of the individual components, but against the program itself. There's too much disinformation.
 
Romney looks like he wants to start wailing and complain like a child.

Obama is just letting him talk all he wants cuz he sounds like an idiot
 
btw, why do people rag on Obama for the "uhhs" and "umms"? that's what a lot of people do when they're talking and actually thinking about what they're going to say. it's not a rare behavior among smart, thinking people.
 
At this point I would prefer Fox News Moderators....Romney is winning just by forming sentences properly and on time. Obama got back on his game though, right now it is whatever.
 
716, 716, choice, expensive

Debate doesn't feel very structured.

*Oh my god Romney talked about what he did!
 
The problem is that Obama is talking too slowly when he talks, so it's taking longer for him to get his point across.
 
btw, why do people rag on Obama for the "uhhs" and "umms"? that's what a lot of people do when they're talking and actually thinking about what they're going to say. it's not a rare behavior among smart, thinking people.

Eh, nevermind actual practice, it just doesn't appear cool.
 
btw, why do people rag on Obama for the "uhhs" and "umms"? that's what a lot of people do when they're talking and actually thinking about what they're going to say. it's not a rare behavior among smart, thinking people.

Because they expect our President to be an Aaron Sorkin caricature.
 
More people will pay attention to the debate than the fact checkers. That's the problem. He is lying his ass off, and Obama let him off the hook.
 
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