2012 First U.S. Presidential Debate |OT| OK Libya... We need a leader, not a reader.
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phosphor112
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The shit I have to deal with.
ElectricBlue187
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talisayNon
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BrokenEchelon
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They were covering a hurricane/tropical storm and he was trying to get in touch with a reporter down there. They couldn't get ahold of him so he kept telling the audience that the car was on interstate whatever heading south or south-west. He somehow managed to keep it going for a few minutes before they got in touch with the reporter.
NullPointer
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No - but he "performed" much better, and was a solid representative of Obama's critics.
Obama's defense of his record and vision for the future was timid in comparison. I'm with Obama's plans, but he didn't represent his side of the argument as well as he could have.
darkside31337
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It's hilarious.
What Romney needed was a gaffe of any kind, a spot that can be repeated ad nauseum in an ad campaign and be a talking point. I don't think he got it. Obama playing prevent defense tonight made all the sense in the world - as boring and insufferable as that might be to watch.
Romney will get his 1 to 2 points - nearly every challenger gets it after the debate but I don't think theres anything in this debate thats going to matter even 3 days from now.
The meltdowns are hilarious and utterly bizarre at the same time.
djplaeskool
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I support the Lewis Black act of building more big fucking things.
methane47
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The shit I have to deal with.
Looolll romney got the racist vote in the bag
He only said it directly once (twice?) but he started the debate (and spent some time) explaining why Romney's plan is not really a plan. It is a set of promises without any real-world bearing.
slightconfuse
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john stewart is killing it already
Zaraki_Kenpachi
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Link won't load for me and there's no MSNBC streams in the OP
IrishNinja
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but even rozay isn't the rozay in your mind tho
i aint mean to mess with your bubble like that though, my bad
oh yeah!
that's why kerry lost in '04, not cause he was, you know, kerry and all
it's refreshing how relevant that 30+ year old event is to political situations today, i mean it's like you grabbed a 2012 wayne simile and just applied it on history like that you know
i'ma have to let it marinate for a while, like i just had an epiphany and need to go to tiffany's
GillianSeed79
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Do you remember Kerry v. Bush? That shit was like Vietnam for us liberals. You weren't there man. You weren't there. I'm not going to feel safe unless Bams has an 8 point lead in the polls. Mittens was so fired up I thought he was going to tackle Bams and try to give him a haircut after that debate. (That last line is a joke btw)
Devolution
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Obama shouldn't have to go into great details next debate. He should just be giving his time to Romney to explain his crap.
"I've already laid out my plans. Romney WOULD YOU BE SO KIND?"
Christ.
"I've already laid out my plans. Romney WOULD YOU BE SO KIND?"
Christ.
No one rustles jimmies like Romney. GAF is proof.Really, this is what it boils down to:
Romney just kept hitting the same points over and over until Obama had to throw off the cool for a bit.
Had to listen to the debate on my phone since I had to work. Ultimately Romney did a lot better than I thought. They really taught him to talk really well, I think. He had a pretty compassionate, soft tone that I think probably went over well with people.
That said, wow, if the American people buy that man's bullshit snake oil, then wow... just wow.
That said, wow, if the American people buy that man's bullshit snake oil, then wow... just wow.
Ghost_Protocol
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Oh god. DO NOT LOG INTO FACEBOOK
TheNatural
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All I know is when political candidates say shit like close loopholes, end this or that, it's all bullshit.
"We're gonna close this one loophole where that one company got a $100,000 exemption! We're going to save five more bucks by stop funding PBS!"
I don't see why this shit isn't called out more. Obama sort of did by saying it doesn't add up, but that's basically the Republican strategy and it amounts to NOTHING in terms of money. You would have to be a fucking uninformed idiot to believe that does anything.
"We're gonna close this one loophole where that one company got a $100,000 exemption! We're going to save five more bucks by stop funding PBS!"
I don't see why this shit isn't called out more. Obama sort of did by saying it doesn't add up, but that's basically the Republican strategy and it amounts to NOTHING in terms of money. You would have to be a fucking uninformed idiot to believe that does anything.
perryfarrell
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Romney won it.
Obama was too timid, nodded too much when R was speaking, paused and said 'uh' too often, talked about the nitty-gritty too much, basically... had no fire in his belly.
Obama was too timid, nodded too much when R was speaking, paused and said 'uh' too often, talked about the nitty-gritty too much, basically... had no fire in his belly.
oneils
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A mix of foreign and domestic policy. So I guess they will focus more on foreign policy as they just spent an hour and a half on domestic.
Obama's race is his biggest hinderance as a politician. He can't appear angry and emotional because of the angry black man syndrome.
I think it was interesting in that Romney showed more fire than he ever has in his life as a public figure, but the way he did it was too much. His constant interrupting of both Jim and Obama, legitimate interrupting and then talking for 5 minutes and not stopping now matter how many times he was told to was a bit ridiculous and tiring. He was too aggressive. He needed to be aggressive, but he went way too far with it.
He also was so vague on everything and wasn't called on it enough. I think Obama will be far less cordial in the next debate and will call Romney on shit as he says it and not let him get away with most of it. Obama needed to be a little more forceful, especially against the over aggressiveness of Romney. But he nailed Romney over and over. It just didn't land as hard because he was so chill about it.
Some of my highlights:
LET'S NOT *crowd snickers*
Romney attacked Obamacare hard, Obama coming back with Romney's plan was the model, to which Mitt replies that it was a great idea when he did it.
Romney talking about repealing whatever financial thing that I didn't know about (Bull something), but then using it as an example of something he could use when he was called on not giving any specifics on how his plan would actually work. But he didn't get called on it by Jim or Obama and that's a shame. That might have been his biggest clear "say whatever sounds best" moment of the night.
Blowing just about every dog whistle available. Obama and welfare (twice, including one in his first or second statement), Reagan, that weird god shit (the whole country believes we're all children of the same god? This was right after he talked about religious freedom and made me instantly uncomfortable), constitution and military might, multiple shots at China. He certainly was getting his points across, even if he wasn't really saying much.
Neither guy were particularly impressive and were both talking in circles. There were a lot of awesome Obama faces that I hope are gif'd. Romney's creepy perma smile was weirding me out hard. There was a face Jim made that was pretty awesome, too. I hope it gets gif'd. I'm interested in seeing the town hall and how awkward Mitt looks when having to interact directly with actual American people on a national stage.
He also was so vague on everything and wasn't called on it enough. I think Obama will be far less cordial in the next debate and will call Romney on shit as he says it and not let him get away with most of it. Obama needed to be a little more forceful, especially against the over aggressiveness of Romney. But he nailed Romney over and over. It just didn't land as hard because he was so chill about it.
Some of my highlights:
LET'S NOT *crowd snickers*
Romney attacked Obamacare hard, Obama coming back with Romney's plan was the model, to which Mitt replies that it was a great idea when he did it.
Romney talking about repealing whatever financial thing that I didn't know about (Bull something), but then using it as an example of something he could use when he was called on not giving any specifics on how his plan would actually work. But he didn't get called on it by Jim or Obama and that's a shame. That might have been his biggest clear "say whatever sounds best" moment of the night.
Blowing just about every dog whistle available. Obama and welfare (twice, including one in his first or second statement), Reagan, that weird god shit (the whole country believes we're all children of the same god? This was right after he talked about religious freedom and made me instantly uncomfortable), constitution and military might, multiple shots at China. He certainly was getting his points across, even if he wasn't really saying much.
Neither guy were particularly impressive and were both talking in circles. There were a lot of awesome Obama faces that I hope are gif'd. Romney's creepy perma smile was weirding me out hard. There was a face Jim made that was pretty awesome, too. I hope it gets gif'd. I'm interested in seeing the town hall and how awkward Mitt looks when having to interact directly with actual American people on a national stage.
The performance is what matters for most people.
Devolution
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He doesn't even have to be angry to make the point that Romney hasn't laid out any plans.
Jesus Christ man.
ElectricBlue187
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I only got 2 political messages both pretty moderate and not crazy
My friends list disappoints
NullPointer
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Yes. Get Romney to make some hard choices right there in front of that audience. Corner him and pressure him to show some of the hard calls he'd have to make.
slightconfuse
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oh god the video the daily show just showed of romeny
Of course. Bush couldn't even answer basic questions and he still won. The incumbents always have the advantage, especially with a improving economy.
Devolution
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Also why the fuck wasn't Gwen Ifill mod? For fucks sake Jim Lehrer has always sucked.
elrechazado
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Are you new to politics of all levels and throughout history?
CherryWoodFuton
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My instagram friend just posted this lol
OldAsUrSock
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Romney needs some plans soon because that is where Obama will attack him.
Yup.
I have no idea what happened to ABC, they've been horrible this entire campaign.
What he said is true, though. Michelle has dealt with people calling her an angry black woman and she's been more cordial than any other first lady that I can remember.
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