It's not a primary attack button, but is used for certain weapons like the switch axe and sword and shield.
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It's not a primary attack button, but is used for certain weapons like the switch axe and sword and shield.
Karsticles
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I don't recall ever needing to use that button.
Snapshot King
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Seriously? It does a spin attack with the sword and shield, isn't that useful? It just seems like the worst control placement ever, it's so uncomfortable. And this is considering the only reason Im up for trying Tri or onward is to avoid that horrible claw.
Little Green Yoda
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L2/R2 is used for diving up/down in underwater battles
if you use the superior swimming control settings
Not sure what weapon you're using but the (+) button attacks weren't all that useful IIRC. I used it more to kick Felynes/Melynxes after quests.
EDIT: Okay, I see you're using the SnS. It's a good combo finisher and yeah it gets a little awkward changing your hand placements at the end of every combo. You either get used to it or end up using another class.
ThatObviousUser
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Start? Do you mean A?
CCP Control Type #2 is downright awful... except for the swimming controls, which have no reason for being Type 2-only. =/
L2/R2 is used for diving up/down in underwater battlesif you use the superior swimming control settings
Not sure what weapon you're using but the (+) button attacks weren't all that useful IIRC. I used it more to kick Felynes/Melynxes after quests.
CCP Control Type #2 is downright awful... except for the swimming controls, which have no reason for being Type 2-only. =/
While I'm not a SnS user... I don't think that spin attack ever gets used.
Snapshot King
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No, I mean +. And really? The solution most of you guys came to was to completely ignore that attack? Jeez, okay, well, I suppose.
Well yeah? If the attack is useless then it's fine to ignore it right?
ThatObviousUser
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Huh yeah, I've never used that...
Snapshot King
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Also, one quick question. Whats the actual differences between the two modes, offline and online? Are they different content or merely just single or multiplayer?
Well it's all I got now. I imagine other weapons would use it as well? I don't know I have literally 5 minutes experience with Monster Hunter here.
Well it's all I got now. I imagine other weapons would use it as well? I don't know I have literally 5 minutes experience with Monster Hunter here.
Shin Kojima
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You can finish off your combo with that spin attack so it's pretty useful.
Down + X
Karsticles
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It's a completely useless attack. Mess with the controls a bit, though? I remember getting to a configuration I liked for every weapon eventually.
Little Green Yoda
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CCP Control type and swimming controls are separate settings. I use CCP type 1 (attacking with face buttons) and swimming controls #2. The second swimming control set is better since you don't have to swim in the direction of the camera so you can dodge vertically more easily without losing track of the monster.
seriously? lol 400+ hours MH online and I've never seen anyone use the spin attack on the SnS.
Not really, it has its uses, its monsters.
StreetsAhead
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Since this is a budget title in Japan (4,800 yen, same as NSMB2. NSMBU is 5,900, Zombi U is 6,900 and ACIII is 7,700), what do you think the US price will be?
Both have certain exclusive monsters. But Online has high rank/G Rank. Monsters have more health but you will rank up and get better mats.
Little Green Yoda
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It's definitely at the bottom of established weapon tiers
along with the switch-axe lol
I'm quite horrible with it despite playing all of offline with the SnS. You really have to do lots of controlled (i.e. not mash) button presses to be effective, which isn't my strong point. Also, a reason I'm so bad at Versus FGs with long combo chains.
Snapshot King
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Well that certainly is a solution. Thanks!
Is that endgame stuff or is that overall? Also, how does online work exactly with no communication? Do you all just sign up for a group...something?
The + button is used for some other things:
- On the classic controller, when your switch axe is transformed into sword mode, pressing + button will activiate the weapon's charging elemental discharge attack. It's also used to perform a veritcal swing attack when the switch axe is in axe mode. A strong attack that is particularly useful for hitting tall monsters with their tails high up in the air. You don't want to use the + button when in axe mode when there's other players near you as you'll accidently hit them into the air and they'll be mad at you.
- Pressing + causes lance weapon to enter a dash attack which is only useful for inflicting element/status effect. The downside, is that you can't block or dodge while doing this running attack. Lastly, your weapon loses its sharpness much faster when your charging into a a monster with it.
-You can press perform a kicking animation while standing. This is basically useful for standing next to another player who has been trapped in a ball of mud or snow that some monsters can hit you with. Kicking a player will cause the mud/snow to break off of their bodies. This comes in handy if a player doesn't have a cleanser item with them which can also break off snow/mud effect off a player's body.
-Pressing + and - buttons together will cause your AI companion, Cha-cha, to run up to you if he is lagging behind by makig a pinging singal appear on your map. When your playing online, you can also press these buttons to make the same pinging signal appear on your map. It can be used as a simple communication tool to inform a player about things like warning them that your going to detonate a bomb or that you have found a boss monster in a different area.
- On the Wii remote, pressing + is used to sheath your weapon.
- While underwater, pressing + causes your character to peform a tackle move. There's really no purpose for it.
One of the things that sucks about it in particular, is how impractical it is to cut off tails due to how tall some monsters are like with Barroth, Diablos, Deviljho, Uragaan and Alatreon. Also, you can't hit wings either like on Rathian and Rathalos.
- On the classic controller, when your switch axe is transformed into sword mode, pressing + button will activiate the weapon's charging elemental discharge attack. It's also used to perform a veritcal swing attack when the switch axe is in axe mode. A strong attack that is particularly useful for hitting tall monsters with their tails high up in the air. You don't want to use the + button when in axe mode when there's other players near you as you'll accidently hit them into the air and they'll be mad at you.
- Pressing + causes lance weapon to enter a dash attack which is only useful for inflicting element/status effect. The downside, is that you can't block or dodge while doing this running attack. Lastly, your weapon loses its sharpness much faster when your charging into a a monster with it.
-You can press perform a kicking animation while standing. This is basically useful for standing next to another player who has been trapped in a ball of mud or snow that some monsters can hit you with. Kicking a player will cause the mud/snow to break off of their bodies. This comes in handy if a player doesn't have a cleanser item with them which can also break off snow/mud effect off a player's body.
-Pressing + and - buttons together will cause your AI companion, Cha-cha, to run up to you if he is lagging behind by makig a pinging singal appear on your map. When your playing online, you can also press these buttons to make the same pinging signal appear on your map. It can be used as a simple communication tool to inform a player about things like warning them that your going to detonate a bomb or that you have found a boss monster in a different area.
- On the Wii remote, pressing + is used to sheath your weapon.
- While underwater, pressing + causes your character to peform a tackle move. There's really no purpose for it.
One of the things that sucks about it in particular, is how impractical it is to cut off tails due to how tall some monsters are like with Barroth, Diablos, Deviljho, Uragaan and Alatreon. Also, you can't hit wings either like on Rathian and Rathalos.
Well there's basically normal armor and high rank armor. During high rank quests you get high rank exclusive drops from monsters that you've already fought before. You use these drops to make high rank armor pieces that have better defense than normal armor and different stats as well.
Online has Wii Speak but it's terrible. The game has an in-game chat system that you can type with an integrated keyboard or an actual USB keyboard.
Offline and Online both have their own endgames but by-in-large there's more to do online and the quests are similar enough. Since Ultimate is almost here I don't know if it's viable for you to play both online and offline if you want to avoid some sort of Tri fatigue, especially since you're going to be at the bottom again once you start Ultimate.
It's a loot based game. You'll be storing all kinds of supplies the entire to make items, armor and weapons. Some monsters are fought more easily with certain weapons or armor skills.
Online works like any multiplayer. The more communication the better. Most people used keyboards with Tri. But like Poyunch mentioned, if you plan on getting MH3U, then maybe you could play around with Tri but avoid getting heavily invested in your character.
When you start out, the offline monsters and online monsters give you the same loot. So in some cases, it's easier to get materials by playing online with some high rank players (but I don't recommend this). It's best to learn the game solo so that you don't hold your team back online. Later in the online play, the drops will change and be better than what you get offline. But online monsters are harder than their offline counterparts.
Do you have anymore info? Is there a link or something?
Edit: http://www.gamefaqs.com/3ds/642342-monster-hunter-3-ultimate/answers?qid=305023
The above link. is actually for 3DS, I believe. I doubt that the Wii U version will be 30 fps.
Little Green Yoda
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Is the talisman system in 3G just as frustrating as it is in Tri? Getting some of the great ones took lots and lots of grinding. Or whole lot of luck. And is the RNG wrt to the talismans better? I got a lot of repeats in Tri instead of the ones I really wanted. :/
Capcom will be at NYC Comic Con with the game. Is it worth going to get information? A ticket is $35 bucks.
Need that +7 OO
Need that +7 OO
Exclusive off-line single player content:
- 1 boss monster with boss map area
- Moga village is home base area featured in the D. Island map
- Around 55 quests to complete
- You get access to Cha-Cha, an immortal AI companion that can attack monsters and cast buffs and healing spells. However, he is mainly used to serve as a mere distraction for a boss monster to target. This will give you a short window of opportunity to use to heal potion, cast a buff, replinish your stamina , sharpen your weapon or set up a trap before the boss monster targets you again. You can unlock new masks for Cha-Cha to wear.
- Trade with Argosy Sea Captain for useful items by sending out his ships to sea to catch fish, treasure and select monster parts among other things. Certain items like the double BBQ spit can only be obtained from him.
- You have access to an exclusive farm system that let's you cultivate extra items ranging from mushrooms and honey to bugs and seeds. Even if you only want to play online, you will definitely want to at least finish a couple of the single player mode villtage quests to unlock full access to the farm system. You'll be spending a hell out of all of time using this feature to continually copy select items so that you won't have to spend as much time focusing on gathering items
- Ability to hunt up to five different boss monsters and gather items freely without a time limit or death penalty or requirement to pay for a quest. You can free hunt on the the D. Island map. Also, you can talk to the village leader to know which monsters are appearing in the map
- Arena challenge quests (up to 2 players split-screen co-op mode) . Arena is also available online, but I'm not that well informed about it since I dont often do arena challenges to begin with.
Exclusive Online multiplayer content:
- Loc Lacy city is the area you'll be roaming around in instead of Moga Village
- Hunt solo or join up to 3 other players on a quest. A team has a shared pool of 3 lives.
- Players start with a hunter rank that they can increase by finishing quests. You can only enter a certain quest based on the hunter rank limit. Hunting rank basically becomes meaningless once you get to HR 51
- 3 boss monsters + and 2 unique-sized boss monsters
- 2 exclusive boss map areas
- You cannot use the farm system while online. You'll need to log off and enter the off-line single player mode to access it.
- Cha-Cha isn't available so if you choose go go on solo mission, you will be gathering/ hunting alone
- Access to more armor sets, armor skills and weapons (high rank versions of equipment are called +
- Roughly 125 quests to complete (includes low rank, high rank, & event quests). Event Quets eventually change as it go through a cycle period
- You can buy and trade for items and arena coins at the NPC shops
- You get a new house to live in and you can upgrade it to a bigger place up two times
- Collect some exclusive furniture to decorate your house with
- Some gathering items can only be found in online quests
- Beating the last boss monster unlocks a specific weapon
- Regardless of whether you start playing online or offline, you can use the same character and have complete acccess to all of your equipment via inventory box in Moga Village or Loc Lac City
Little Green Yoda
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Nah, I already have all the +7 OO that are useful. I need some awesome +7 +10 versions. >_>
uhhh... +7 OO are infinitely better than +7 +10 - they don't call them God talismans for nothing.
Little Green Yoda
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You get one skill with +7 OO. You get ~1.7 skills with +7, +10.
It depends on your overall setup which type of tali is more desirable. But the +7, +10 ones are harder to get since you need to get the correct skills on both the +7 and the +10 parts.
Now there's a talismans grinding skill thou. Still, its dependent on luck. I prefer it this way so that each individual players will build their armor based on their collection of talismans.
the +7 is a "B" skill and the +10 is a "C" skill. "B" skills are more important and a +7 oo talisman allows you to get a full 10 points on a "B" skill without resorting to equipping specific armor. getting a +7 +10 talisman for a "C" skill is nowhere near as important since you now have to change armor or gem in the remaining +3 points for the "B" skill.
to each his own. don't make me come back and list the C skills
Sorry but that helmet skill is now SPEED GATHERER insteadFate skill
Talisman Hunter + Great Luck + Speed Gatherer + Gathering +2 + Divine Whim will be the perfect armor for grinding talisman. Good luck finding the armor combination
Sorry but that helmet skill is now Negate Stun instead
Talisman Hunter + Great Luck + Speed Gatherer + Gathering +2 + Divine Whim will be the perfect armor for grinding talisman. Good luck finding the armor combination
KittenMaster
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I just tested online play for Tri (I'm running off a 3G connection) to make sure I can even play. It seems I can! I am now more hyped.
Karsticles
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They surely aren't known for being lucky...
Yeah you are absolutely right. They are dead meat even before we are able to stun them.
Anw sorry guys its SPEED GATHERER for Jaggi mask. I mixed up the skill with the sunglasses
MH3G I mean.
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Sorry but that helmet skill is now Negate Stun instead
This information is false. The Jaggi head armor provides that skill. The above image is of a "Jaggi Mask" which has always given the Fate skill.
Anw sorry guys its SPEED GATHERER for Jaggi mask. I mixed up the skill with the sunglasses
No. speed gatherer is for MHP3rd. Jaggi Mask gives the Fate skill in Tri, Tri G, Ultimate, etc...
Little Green Yoda
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It's worth it to gem in 3 points of the B skill if you can get an extra skill like Trapmaster. Combo Plus is great for gunning and Lasting Power makes Pill/Seeding easier. I think those are the most useful of the C skills.the +7 is a "B" skill and the +10 is a "C" skill. "B" skills are more important and a +7 oo talisman allows you to get a full 10 points on a "B" skill without resorting to equipping specific armor. getting a +7 +10 talisman for a "C" skill is nowhere near as important since you now have to change armor or gem in the remaining +3 points for the "B" skill.
to each his own. don't make me come back and list the C skills
Little Green Yoda
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Well, at least it's a little easier. I like the uniqueness the rare talis bring and coming up with sets to work around your tali's limitations can be fun but at some point you just want to make your dream set with that perfect tali lol.
future_pinoy
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http://www.4gamer.net/games/184/G018443/20121004035/
following the positive survey from Famitsu pertaining to WiiU, pre-order of Monster Hunter 3G HD ver will start on 6th of October. I can smell sell-outs.
following the positive survey from Famitsu pertaining to WiiU, pre-order of Monster Hunter 3G HD ver will start on 6th of October. I can smell sell-outs.