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Both sides are wrong, Marvel sucks*, end of story. ;D
*So does DC but it's about which kind of suck you prefer.
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Rafa=FedKilla
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Stegman on Superior Spider-Man!!!!,
crimsonspider89
Banned
Superior Spider Man. LOOKS AWESOME FROM STEGMAN and SLOTT!
or he could you know trust his son from the future who kinda knows what will come to pass.
could do without Ramos
Hype levels...rising...
Rafa=FedKilla
Banned
Yes Peter Parker is finally a mutant and he must face off against ArachKid, a spider that was bitten by a radioactive human.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
I'm going a different way then all you story-obsessed crackpots, and instead gonna go ahead and proclaim that Ryan Stegman will be drawing the relaunched ASM in January.
The man is a superstar artist in the making. The powers that be realized that he was simply TOO good for some secondary Spidey book like Scarlet Spider, and he should be drawing the big headliner titles. They already gave him a stint on the Fantastic Four, and now he's going to ASM. They did they same thing when they realized Jerome Opena was god in artist's form on Uncanny X-Force, and now he's drawing Hickman's flagship Avengers. - ViewtifulJC
The man is a superstar artist in the making. The powers that be realized that he was simply TOO good for some secondary Spidey book like Scarlet Spider, and he should be drawing the big headliner titles. They already gave him a stint on the Fantastic Four, and now he's going to ASM. They did they same thing when they realized Jerome Opena was god in artist's form on Uncanny X-Force, and now he's drawing Hickman's flagship Avengers. - ViewtifulJC
Parallax
best seen in the classic "Shadow of the Beast"
the xmen barely know how to deal with the phoenix force.
you mean the constantly fluctuating future? bishop said she would damn them, and he didnt listen to him because he was from the future.
slightconfuse
Banned
Stegman on Spider-Man awesooome. Now get Ramos out of there.
Superior Spider-Man has a certain Ron to it
Superior Spider-Man has a certain Ron to it
And the future depicted in X-Factor looks like it will come to pass because Marvel NOW seems to be making mutants the scapegoats again.
But of course, it's Cap. There is no hypocrisy at play when they are incarcerating the Phoenix 5.
Parallax
best seen in the classic "Shadow of the Beast"
you use the term scapegoat like scott shouldnt be held responsible for attempting to being the phoenix.
and cap doesnt seem to be making the mutants scapegoats in the now.
krypt0nian
Banned
Say it with me kids : ughhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Plus Ramos is still on. So, I guess double ugh. This might be the second worst Marvel Now! announcement after Way on Thunderbolts.
TheKaeptain
Banned
Wait AMS is getting relaunched?
ViewtifulJC
Banned
After #700 in December, yes. Something SUPER big is supposed to happen in that issue and it'll be relaunched in January.
We'll find out more at NYCC less than a week from now.
Hell fuckin yeah!Angry Spidey
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Deleted member 13876
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Yay Slott remains on Spider-Man and gets a great artist to boot, although I actually like Ramos on the book as well.
This.
Scott wasn't looking to host the Phoenix for himself. That was what the Avengers did. AvX constantly depicted the P5 not in charge of their actions 100% and the force amplifying their most negative attributes. Hell, Scott was the most in control until he was pushed over the edge.
What it boils down to is that , you can't blame the Phoenix 5 for their actions. If Cap believes the Phoenix 5 desere prosecution and they so do many other superheroes.
Anyway Scott, Emma et al. are gonna get their redemption arc , or everyone will forget about it, à la Iron man.
TheKaeptain
Banned
Can we not post any spoilers in here about NYCC? I'm playing check up on ASM.
krypt0nian
Banned
Not me. Few understand how to write Spidey. It had been horrible forever. I don't have any faith in anyone else right now having the specific chops for the book.
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Deleted member 13876
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That's why I think people yelling he was character assassinated are over exaggerating. Scott held it together the longest of them all, albeit visibly struggling at times and was only pushed over the edge when everyone ganged up on him. Also agree that The Avengers made the situation worse a number of times and they are currently glossing over that. Captain America was however valid when stating he played Russian Roulette with the planet. In hindsight he was right, but there was no way he could have been sure of that given what he's seen the Force do in the past with his own eyes.
Yeah, same with USM. Really love the fact that book has had Bendis at the helm for all of its issues. It's what got me reading comics. The post-OMD era was terrible for the most part. There were some good arcs. Some of The Gauntlet, leading up to the main Gauntlet arc but I really didn't give a crap about the election subplot, some of the new characters it introduced and how it made Parker look like a loser more than anything. The quality of the book was all over the place.
When was it horrible? The book was pretty consistently strong post Brand New Day. A lot of writers turning out great work (Waid, Wells, Kelly, Van Lente).
distantmantra
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I'm loving the Cyke love.
god damn, what a ride right?
next UP: read astonishing x-men by joss whedon
and when that's done, you get to read the most amazing x-book ever:
You're asking people not to post comics news in a comics thread? Yeah, no. They're going to have to be vague about things, though, what with NYCC still over two months ahead of ASM 700.
BenjaminBirdie
Banned
Yeah, I don't mind Slott, but I think Waid or Kelly or Van Lente could be just as good (at least).
Pie and Beans
Look for me on the local news, I'll be the guy arrested for trying to burn down a Nintendo exec's house.
Stegman on Spidey?! Hnnnnnnnnnnnnngh. Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. Yessssssssssssssss.
slightconfuse
Banned
Slot was arguebly the weakest BND writer
krypt0nian
Banned
Misspoke. Before that it was horrible. Brand New Day was serviceable but stlll completely lacked the feel that Spidey needs IMO. It was skippable.
It's all subjective, but for me it wasn't hitting my Spidey buttons.
When Slott took over the Spidey I love was finally back. There's no way I miss an issue.
Last great run IMO was by David Michelinie.
BuddyJoeHooker
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So we'll just forget the string of planets the phoenix destroyed on the way to earth? Was it really obvious to say "The phoenix will stop is path of destruction on earth."
Do you really think they shouldn't be persecuted? Did you forget the manhunt for Avengers they had while they were in control. This only happened after Hope left them on her own will. Giving them a redemption arc is the only way.
TeamCap
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Deleted member 13876
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I hope Illyana does not get a redemption arc. She's more interesting as a twisted manipulator.
It was awesome.
Conveniently enough, I cracked open Astonishing immediately after finishing. UXF is definitely on my list, too.
Slott is pretty solid and I'm enjoying his stuff on ASM, but I think all three of those put out much better stories than Slott did during Brand New Day.
you are in for such a treat - i'm jealous that you get to read it all for the first time. i just sent the three books we're talking about to a few friends who are trying to get into the medium, so i'm happy to see you take the same path.
this is part of what i sent them as a "refresher" so that when you start reading, you're not lost on some stuff. the rest i deleted because if you've already read new x-men, you know it already:
En Sabah Nur (aka Apocalypse) is a dick who wants to kill all humans and control the world. You may remember in the 90s cartoon he mind-infected Angel who turned into crazed superpowerful killer Archangel. Angel eventually learned to be able to flip between Angel/Archangel at will - thanks to his telekinetic ninja babe girlfriend Psylocke. Apocalypse also fucked with Cyclops' head too. Cyclops was able to break free thanks to his telekinetic ginger Phoenix-Force girlfriend Jean Grey.
Years ago, there was a deadly anti-mutant virus called the Legacy Virus & Colossus had to sacrifice himself to find a cure. This made his girlfriend Kittie Pryde real depressed.
No, the worst was definitely Bob Gale. Though I don't think he lasted long.
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How dare Slott exploit Parker's established knack for science!
Slott is ok and I like his stuff. But I feel Spidey would be rejuvenated with someone new at the helm. Jason Aaron would be my choice.
How dare Spidey use his masters degree!
What is so bad about this? That he invents things? Lol.Dan Slott is the worst writer on Amazing Spider-Man since Howard Mackie, and he was the weakest in the brain trust.
To prove my point, here's everything wrong about Dan Slott's Spider-Man condensed into one panel, from issue #695.
I like how some of you are so dense that you can't grasp that Cyclops was right, despite his actions as a host of the Phoenix. Captain America didn't want to negotiate or discuss options at all with the X-Men regarding Hope. They showed up on their island with an army of Avengers and tried to take her. Every single time the Avengers did anything for the first half of the event it just made matters worse. The whole crux of the Avengers' stance was that the Phoenix was bad news and that Hope couldn't possibly contain it but in the end, regardless of all their intervention, she wound up getting the Phoenix and proved them wrong by using it for good. This is you know, after the fact that the Phoenix 5 just solved most of the world's problems in a matter of days with no thanks at all.
That's not the problem. The problem is coming out of the blue with a new MacGuffin that ensures Spidey is still totally the bestest and always has the upper hand no matter what. Because that's what Slott's run is. A bunch of stuff happening because they need to. "Oh, Peter needs a job? BAM! He's got the best job ever as a super scientist and everything is awesome! He's gonna fight a baddie? BAM! He's got a new super awesome suit!". Then there's No One's Favorite Peter Parker Love Interest Carlie Cooper. Then, there's Alpha. It's all terrible, and it's all been there since day one, and it's still gonna be there for years because people are idiots.
BenjaminBirdie
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And the kicker is that Slott didn't even script this storyline.
Slott's not my fave but this was the wrong example in any number of ways.
BenjaminBirdie
Banned
wthhhhhh
a) Slott didn't invent Carlie Cooper or even get them together, that was all Brand New Day
b) Carlie Cooper is Spidey's Milla, which is to say, THE BEST.
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