Hitokage is no longer an admin

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It was pretty obvious to me why Mumei got demodded, particularly as it was right after Evilore uncoiled the rope that was slowly strangling discourse in many threads. He seemed a bit too conservative and soft for the job.

But yeah, as long as Stumpakapow is still mod, GAF is safe. He is a brilliant mod from what I've seen.
 

LordCanti

Member
I got banned 3 weeks ago by Bishop for calling out the PC brigade ruining threads... Barely a week later, the PC brigade gets the boot and major policy changes are enacted. I guess the mods don't really talk to each other and Evilore just makes it up as he goes along.

He wields the hammer, but the target criteria is handled by another.
 
your avatar is brilliant

Thanks, man

want-to-believe-2.jpg
 

CrankyJay

Banned
It was pretty obvious to me why Mumei got demodded, particularly as it was right after Evilore uncoiled the rope that was slowly strangling discourse in many threads. He seemed a bit too conservative and soft for the job.

But yeah, as long as Stumpakapow is still mod, GAF is safe. He is a brilliant mod from what I've seen.

He is good from the few pm I have had with him.
 

Relix

he's Virgin Tight™
Damn, Hito was actually one of the coolest mods around, and he sucked badly at Street Fighter too (take that bwahahha).

Well, this just opens a spot for me. WHAT ARE YOU WAITING FOR EVILORE!! *thundersnshit*
 
My last ban didn't even give a reason, it just said "c'mon son". I don't even know what I did haha, even after searching my posts.

I had the EXACT same ban message after i posted "Ouch!" in a thread.

10 days for that. Same as you i guess. Its funny we got banned for that while you have other rabid attention seekers trolling these forums actively trying to get people banned in the OT.
 

onken

Member
I got banned 3 weeks ago by Bishop for calling out the PC brigade ruining threads... Barely a week later, the PC brigade gets the boot and major policy changes are enacted. I guess the mods don't really talk to each other and Evilore just makes it up as he goes along.

There was major policy change about the PC brigade?
 

CrankyJay

Banned
I had the EXACT same ban message after i posted "Ouch!" in a thread.

10 days for that. Same as you i guess. Its funny we got banned for that while you have other rabid attention seekers trolling these forums actively trying to get people banned in the OT.

Yeah, I have a few names in mind. They need to crack down on this.
 

KevinCow

Banned
2+2=5

Hitokage always came across as very level headed. I don't think the mumei and language tweaks were a major change, more of a common sense adjustment of policy. Certainly nothing that would cause major internal wrangling like you suggest.

I know, 'this is neogaf' but the truth is probably disappointed mundane. Maybe he's too busy with life responsibilities, maybe evilore wants to more to more formal paid staff and that doesn't fit with what hitokage wants, maybe a thousand dull reasons before 'ooh conspiracy'

Who said anything about conspiracy?

With the exception of Amirox, pretty much every demod I can remember has come from some kind of internal squabble amongst the staff.


As for language tweaks not being a major change, this is how I see it:

Mumei clearly wanted to ban the word outright, period, end of story, regardless of context. He made that very clear on multiple occasions.

Evilore clearly cared enough about undoing the ban to make a whole thread on it.

It's pretty obvious there was a disagreement.


And look, I like Mumei (though I disagreed with some of his modding decisions), and I like Hitokage. I'm just looking at this as an objective third-party. The proximity of these demods to each other as well as that thread Evilore created could be a coincidence, and they could all be unrelated. Or my theory could be close to correct, and they are all closely related events. Occam's Razor and all.
 

TheExodu5

Banned
I got banned 3 weeks ago by Bishop for calling out the PC brigade ruining threads... Barely a week later, the PC brigade gets the boot and major policy changes are enacted. I guess the mods don't really talk to each other and Evilore just makes it up as he goes along.

What major policy changes? I was not aware of this.
 

G-Fex

Member
Who said anything about conspiracy?

With the exception of Amirox, pretty much every demod I can remember has come from some kind of internal squabble amongst the staff.


As for language tweaks not being a major change, this is how I see it:

Mumei clearly wanted to ban the word outright, period, end of story, regardless of context. He made that very clear on multiple occasions.

Evilore clearly cared enough about undoing the ban to make a whole thread on it.

It's pretty obvious there was a disagreement.


And look, I like Mumei (though I disagreed with some of his modding decisions), and I like Hitokage. I'm just looking at this as an objective third-party. The proximity of these demods to each other as well as that thread Evilore created could be a coincidence, and they could all be unrelated. Or my theory could be close to correct, and they are all closely related events. Occam's Razor and all.

Or you can just leave it alone and stop coming up with these theories
 

Hitokage

Setec Astronomer
Thanks guys.

First, this has nothing to do with the use or disuse of the word cunt (I was starting to think it needed to be made less black and white than it was at the time anyway), but this does have to do with my own disagreements regarding other matters, and they started to become fundamental.
 

Dennis

Banned
Thanks guys.

First, this has nothing to do with the use or disuse of the word cunt (I was starting to think it needed to be made less black and white than it was at the time anyway), but this does have to do with my own disagreements regarding other matters, and they started to become fundamental.

*speculate*
 

legacyzero

Banned
No Mumei?!

Damn, what's happening...
Thanks guys.

First, this has nothing to do with the use or disuse of the word cunt (I was starting to think it needed to be made less black and white than it was at the time anyway), but this does have to do with my own disagreements regarding other matters, and they started to become fundamental.

Irreconcilable differences?
 
Thanks guys.

First, this has nothing to do with the use or disuse of the word cunt (I was starting to think it needed to be made less black and white than it was at the time anyway), but this does have to do with my own disagreements regarding other matters, and they started to become fundamental.

This way please.
 

KevinCow

Banned
Or you can just leave it alone and stop coming up with these theories

Did I do something to piss you off? I thought we were cool.

I don't understand why people are getting upset at me trying to piece this whole thing together when we have a thread full of people wondering why it happened. I'm not trying to anger or place blame on anyone. I'm just trying to piece together why a mod and admin I kinda liked are no longer mod and admin.
 

LordCanti

Member
What major policy changes? I was not aware of this.

Basically Evilore noticed that political correctness was ruining discussion, because pretty much everyone was afraid of saying something that would set PC-GAF off and cause them to get shit all over.

So there's no more piling on. The word "cunt" is also back in rotation, as long as it's not pointed at someone (that was my takeaway anyway...if that's wrong, I digress).

Edit: except for footy GAF, which can now call each other that until the cows come home.

Thanks guys.

First, this has nothing to do with the use or disuse of the word cunt (I was starting to think it needed to be made less black and white than it was at the time anyway), but this does have to do with my own disagreements regarding other matters, and they started to become fundamental.

I thought we were being paranoid =/

Thanks for the years of awesome moderation.
 
Thanks guys.

First, this has nothing to do with the use or disuse of the word cunt (I was starting to think it needed to be made less black and white than it was at the time anyway), but this does have to do with my own disagreements regarding other matters, and they started to become fundamental.

I presume you left on friendly terms.
 

Xzeon

Banned
Thanks guys.

First, this has nothing to do with the use or disuse of the word cunt (I was starting to think it needed to be made less black and white than it was at the time anyway), but this does have to do with my own disagreements regarding other matters, and they started to become fundamental.

now your slumming it with the mortals.

youll always be admin...

of my heart.
 

TheExodu5

Banned
Basically Evilore noticed that political correctness was ruining discussion, because pretty much everyone was afraid of saying something that would set PC-GAF off and cause them to get shit all over.

So there's no more piling on. The word "cunt" is also back in rotation, as long as it's not pointed at someone (that was my takeaway anyway...if that's wrong, I digress).

Edit: except for footy GAF, which can now call each other that until the cows come home.



I thought we were being paranoid =/

Thanks for the years of awesome moderation.

Oooooh I thought PC GAF as in PC Gaming GAF.
 

noah111

Still Alive
Thanks guys.

First, this has nothing to do with the use or disuse of the word cunt (I was starting to think it needed to be made less black and white than it was at the time anyway), but this does have to do with my own disagreements regarding other matters, and they started to become fundamental.
Honestly, you should've lied and said it has nothing to do with GAF, or just told us the topic of the disagreement, because leaving it open ended like that for speculation is going to cause a shit storm no doubt..

Either way, kind of crazy.. will you be leaving GAF all together or simply no longer involved in modding/managing the site?
 

CrankyJay

Banned
Honestly, you should've lied and said it has nothing to do with GAF, or just told us the topic of the disagreement, because leaving it open ended like that for speculation is going to cause a shit storm no doubt..

If this bothers people enough to cause a "shit storm" then people need to turn off their computers and go outside.
 

noah111

Still Alive
If this bothers people enough to cause a "shit storm" then people need to turn off their computers and go outside.
Well hey, it is the truth. People naturally question the authority of a community and when a veteran steps down due to disagreements, it goes without saying people will start speculating like crazy.

Eight years on GAF alone isn't a small investment of your life, so if a disagreement lead to leaving that, one can assume it wasn't about furries. :p
 

G-Fex

Member
Did I do something to piss you off? I thought we were cool.

I don't understand why people are getting upset at me trying to piece this whole thing together when we have a thread full of people wondering why it happened. I'm not trying to anger or place blame on anyone. I'm just trying to piece together why a mod and admin I kinda liked are no longer mod and admin.

We are cool I just...I don't know maybe this stuff shouldn't have been talked about. You know like discussing reasoning behind peoples banning.
 
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