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Thinking about it, it would be a terrible move to not have this thing run WP8 apps.

The iPad and android tablets do it, this is now the standard people are used to, right?
 
SeanR1221 said:
Thinking about it, it would be a terrible move to not have this thing run WP8 apps.

The iPad and android tablets do it, this is now the standard people are used to, right?
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iOS and Android dont let you run the same apps as your PC though. It is just a different approach, Windows tablets have more in common with the PC where iOS and Android tablets have more in common with phones.
 
SeanR1221 said:
Thinking about it, it would be a terrible move to not have this thing run WP8 apps.

The iPad and android tablets do it, this is now the standard people are used to, right?
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It's the right move for Windows 8.
With Android and iOS they are moving up from phones (the iPad and especially the Nexus 7 aren't much more than bigger phones). Using and adapting their phone OS for tablets was pretty straight-forward.
With Windows 8 Microsoft is moving down from PCs. Going all way down to phones would have been a lot more challenging and limiting.
Windows Phone apps are usually in portrait mode, use the hardware back button, and often (but not always) feature a lot of swiping for panoramas and pivots. It's not at all straight-forward to adapt that to PCs. With Windows 8 the way it is, Windows Phone apps would be quite inconsistent with Windows 8 apps.

At least now all Windows 8 apps will be made for tablets and PCs, whereas with Android most apps aren't tailored to tablets. Porting between Windows Phone and Windows is relatively easy, too.

If Microsoft had taken a similar approach to Apple and Google and just used their phone OS, they wouldn't stand a chance. It would get just as much attention as Windows Phone. However, if they want to pursue the 7" tablet market, they could still do a cheap Nexus-style tablet running a barely modified Windows Phone 8. Like the Nexus 7 it wouldn't have tablet apps, either, but at that small size that wouldn't be much of an issue.
 
maeh2k said:
It's the right move for Windows 8.
With Android and iOS they are moving up from phones (the iPad and especially the Nexus 7 aren't much more than bigger phones). Using and adapting their phone OS for tablets was pretty straight-forward.
With Windows 8 Microsoft is moving down from PCs. Going all way down to phones would have been a lot more challenging and limiting.
Windows Phone apps are usually in portrait mode, use the hardware back button, and often (but not always) feature a lot of swiping for panoramas and pivots. It's not at all straight-forward to adapt that to PCs. With Windows 8 the way it is, Windows Phone apps would be quite inconsistent with Windows 8 apps.

At least now all Windows 8 apps will be made for tablets and PCs, whereas with Android most apps aren't tailored to tablets. Porting between Windows Phone and Windows is relatively easy, too.

If Microsoft had taken a similar approach to Apple and Google and just used their phone OS, they wouldn't stand a chance. It would get just as much attention as Windows Phone. However, if they want to pursue the 7" tablet market, they could still do a cheap Nexus-style tablet running a barely modified Windows Phone 8. Like the Nexus 7 it wouldn't have tablet apps, either, but at that small size that wouldn't be much of an issue.
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I guess when you put it that way.

How will xbox game controls be handled? Will they all have physical keyboard AND touch controls?
 
And still no price.
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400$?....I might bight. Kind of makes me want to hold off for the Pro version though. 300$ would have been impossible to say no to.
 
$400 million to advertise a tablet? Really? Jeez. Shit they could just release it at $200 and word of mouth would sell that thing out everywhere.
 
giga said:
$400 for 32GB storage is pretty good, no? Expecting $300 is just not right.
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I'm not saying it's not a good price, I'm just saying it would have been impossible to resist at that price. For what it is, I don't know if I want it at that price. The Microsoft App store isn't even as good as Android's yet, so you're really buying for the future.

I don't even know why I'm arguing, cause I know I'm gonna get one anyway.

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Izick said:
400$?....I might bight. Kind of makes me want to hold off for the Pro version though. 300$ would have been impossible to say no to.
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Izick said:
I'm not saying it's not a good price, I'm just saying it would have been impossible to resist at that price. For what it is, I don't know if I want it at that price. The Microsoft App store isn't even as good as Android's yet, so you're really buying for the future.

I don't even know why I'm arguing, cause I know I'm gonna get one anyway.
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For posterity.
 
Not to pull any conspiracy theories but what if the price will be $400 and this marketing budget was a easter egg of sorts.... still crazy that we are less than 2 weeks until this thing is actually out and still no idea on price.
 
jagowar said:
Not to pull any conspiracy theories but what if the price will be $400 and this marketing budget was a easter egg of sorts.... still crazy that we are less than 2 weeks until this thing is actually out and still no idea on price.
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I think we can all agree that the number pretty much confirms that it will be $400.
 
In all seriousness though, I probably would pay 400$ for it, but 300$ would just be awesome. It's right up there with the Nexus, and it's a better bang for your buck in the long run. I guess it all comes down to the marketing.
 
400 million ad campaign eh. Hopefully the commercials aren't as fucking annoying as the internet explorer one considering we'll probably be seeing them often.
 
Jesus Microsoft. I'll save you a few hundred million. Just release the fucking press release with the price. You can even get an intern to write it up I don't mind.
 
Milchjon said:
Honestly, if you don't absolutely need full Windows 8, I'd go with the Surface. It has that wow factor.
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I honestly don't know what I need in "full Windows 8" compared to RT. I mean, it will have IE/Chrome/Firefox, right? It will have Wordpad/Word, right? The only thing I'll miss is Flash and GIMP.
 
Izick said:
I honestly don't know what I need in "full Windows 8" compared to RT. I mean, it will have IE/Chrome/Firefox, right? It will have Wordpad/Word, right? The only thing I'll miss is Flash and GIMP.
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you will not have chrome or firefox in windows rt. google and Mozilla would have to use IE's rendering engine or something, anyway just like iOS. they have not announced anything for RT. And the new touch friendly IE has flash support, uses a whitelist so some sites have it, some don't.
Snaku said:
The only thing holding me back from getting an RT over the Pro is the ability to load Steam onto it. I've no doubt Pro will do it, but I don't think the RT will.
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it will not.
 
Izick said:
I honestly don't know what I need in "full Windows 8" compared to RT. I mean, it will have IE/Chrome/Firefox, right? It will have Wordpad/Word, right? The only thing I'll miss is Flash and GIMP.
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The only thing holding me back from getting an RT over the Pro is the ability to load Steam onto it. I've no doubt Pro will do it, but I don't think the RT will.
 
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