Microsoft Surface Tablet announced
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luckyarcher
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No retina and almost near to iPad price, no competing app store and no pre-order incentives.
Thats a recipe for a DOA right there.
Thats a recipe for a DOA right there.
show me your skeleton
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why did i think the cover was going to be free? why?! i'm an idiot aren't i gaf? 
What!? Why would that be when the iso is only 3.2?
Or imagine if they gave them away for free. Wouldn't require any marketing at all!!!
Ah, okay, that makes sense.
I was always looking forward to the Pro, not the RT so I guess this shouldn't actually bother me too much. I was thinking at least a grand for the pro anyhow.
If they wanted Windows 8 RT to have a chance at making anything resembling a dent in the market, then yes, aggressive pricing a la the Nexus 7 would've been the way to go. This thing is dead on arrival at $499 (arguably more like $599, since I assume no one in their right mind would buy this without getting the keyboard, which is no doubt going to be the best selling point they've got if it's integrated into the OS well.)
At the VERY least, it should be $499 with the keyboard included. That would at least give them a compelling argument against the iPad 3 low-end price point.
Fjolle
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I would, but i'm not earning american dollars...
Yeah I'm just not sure these legions of corporate road warriors they seem to be banking on are going to materialise though. They're pretty much dead in the water where the consumer market is concerned IMO, and is this really going to be big in the corporate market as opposed to an ultrabook and smartphone combo? I don't know.
Technosteve
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I'm not interested in RT I am interested in Pro but I fucking hate the Atom processor which the Pro has.
Unlike google, Microsoft is not in the business of giving away stuff for free. That would not make the shareholders happy nor would it make the OEMs happy. If they want to continue making money with Windows, they need to keep prices up.
fluffydelusions
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Yeah tbh I was kind of hoping for a cheaper price but I think people are blowing this out of proportion. The 16gb iPad is the same price. RT also comes with a free copy of office as well and tbh I think it's the more capable tablet. The only issue as of now is the marketplace but that will change quickly enough anyway. This also has a Micro SD slot, mini HDMI, and USB 2.0
Does Windows take up too much space to go down to 16gb? $399 with microSD would have been a decent price.
outunderthestars
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And that is different than Google selling the Nexus 7 at $200 how?
I don't think the price is bad either. It's literally lined right up with its competition. What I think has happened here are rumors took hold and molested our expectations. Exactly why MS should have released information on pricing sooner.
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Asus is making them.
anonymous_abc
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wasn't the original xbox sold at a loss?
They weren't undercutting their partners with that either.
Yes.
But if the OEM's don't come with products that are either significantly better or significantly cheaper than Apple's iPad or even the Android eco system... their shit is dead anyway and MS loses anyway...
It doesn't help MS one bit if their OEM partners release products that aren't good enough to convince consumers. What is the point of having an unsuccessful eco system?
fluffydelusions
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I'm not sure but it's possible it was sold at a loss to break into a new market and compete?
Gareth Bale
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Will wait for UK pricing, but I'm pretty sure now that it's going to be too expensive. All it has going for it is Office and an overpriced keyboard. That's not enough to put it into the iPad price range. Not with such a shitty resolution.
brotkasten
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The Pro has a Core i5 CPU. It's essentially an Ultrabook.
Thing is, history has shown that most tablets that are "lined up with the competition" in pricing that don't carry the Apple logo end up flopping hard. And this device doesn't even stack up completely hardware-wise either.
The launch will be very interesting.
Yeah, this is the other problem, especially when stuff like the Yoga 13 inevitably drops in price. What road warrior is going to bother dropping $600 on a gimped RT setup when in a few months, you will likely be able to get a nice convertible running the real deal on sale/clearance for around $800?
anonymous_abc
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and what is the surface trying to do?
outunderthestars
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I fail to see how that matters. It is still being marketed as Google's tablet.
SquiddyCracker
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I guess there's a zero chance of the Samsung Atom tablet being priced under $600 now.
* microSDXC (up to 64GB), actually.
fluffydelusions
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It also has Micro SD slot, mini HDMI, and USB 3.0
But trying it Win8 at bestbuy the other day sold me on it. It's super smooth on the touchscreen and I really liked what I saw.Who what guys. The Acer guy has win. Remember the Acer CEO whatshisname was whining about the potential Surface RT price a few time? he has fucking won.
Surface RT tablets are now officially over priced. The cheapest w8 tablet is now Acer w510 (32gb). Acer is going to drop the hummer during holiday season and go lower.
Hilarious.
Surface RT tablets are now officially over priced. The cheapest w8 tablet is now Acer w510 (32gb). Acer is going to drop the hummer during holiday season and go lower.
Hilarious.
thought the pro has usb3 and SDXC, this only has usb2, SD
This is mind blowing.
There are two ways to get people over from a competitor
1. lower price - which they matched, so that's not going to do them any good
2. offer something they cant - they do in some sense, but, those features are only going to matter to the windows OS driven crowd, not the ipad people
Fools, microsoft.
I don't even want to know what the Pros are going to cost, which is what i was planning on getting
There are two ways to get people over from a competitor
1. lower price - which they matched, so that's not going to do them any good
2. offer something they cant - they do in some sense, but, those features are only going to matter to the windows OS driven crowd, not the ipad people
Fools, microsoft.
I don't even want to know what the Pros are going to cost, which is what i was planning on getting
We're definitely going to have fun watching how this thing does.
He's talking about RT, not Pro.
You are correct:
http://www.microsoft.com/global/surface/en/us/renderingassets/surfacespecsheet.pdf
EDIT: That must be old, the store listing has it with the SDXC.
Technosteve
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Asus was going to make a low cost tablet they announced it at ces. Google just made it the flagship forthr form factor and is paying Asus a margin.
Almost called it. At least the doom and gloom part. Wasn't sure what to make of the cover. With the heavy emphasize they put on it I wasn't sure they'd sell the Surface without it.
fluffydelusions
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Er wait, this thing was already up for preorder and sold out? Just reading engadget comments now.
Souless_PJ
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I don't know why people are comparing the price to a new iPad. Considering the difference between it and the iPad 2 is the screen resolution (and the chip / ram to drive it) and the surface is the similar lower res...
You can't get 32gb iPad 2s now though which makes direct comparison harder.
You can't get 32gb iPad 2s now though which makes direct comparison harder.
To me this is actually better than I was expecting.... I really expected it to be $599 base with the covers extra (but I did think they would only be $50)
I am going to get the base 32 gig and add a touch cover when the first sale inevitably happens. I don't actually need touch cover on day 1.
I am going to get the base 32 gig and add a touch cover when the first sale inevitably happens. I don't actually need touch cover on day 1.
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