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do we know what Storage standard the RT or PRO uses ?

mSata ? Sata II ?

or is it not user replaceable storage ?

I know it's either Flash memory or SSD storage ?
 
Is there a way to sort the store by "metro" apps? I noticed there are listings for desktop applications like utorrent which I assume is included in the 2940 number.
 
Then what is the point of having a desktop version of IE on RT if it just supports the same things the Metro version does?
office (and i'm sure there are some technical reasons as well)
Is there a way to sort the store by "metro" apps? I noticed there are listings for desktop applications like utorrent which I assume is included in the 2940 number.
I don't think so.
 
100,000 apps in 90 days.

Honestly going to be interesting tracking how fast or slow the Windows 8 app ecosystem grows and the timing it'll take to be passable. First three months, six months, one year, wonder where its gonna be. Windows 8 adoption will be an interesting metric to track with how it influences app development and how it trickles down to their other platforms, Surface and WP8.
 
Honestly going to be interesting tracking how fast or slow the Windows 8 app ecosystem grows and the timing it'll take to be passable. First three months, six months, one year, wonder where its gonna be. Windows 8 adoption will be an interesting metric to track with how it influences app development and how it trickles down to their other platforms, Surface and WP8.

the entire question of how big Metro will be is a fascinating one. How will people adapt to it? Will Pro users bother to buy Metro apps when they'll still be able to get most apps that they need for free on the regular desktop?

Sometimes I feel like people buy apps for dedicated tablets (like iOS/Android) because there's no other choice. But when you can swipe and reveal the desktop to see the weather, is anyone going to buy a weather app in Metro? How about RSS apps? Video streaming clients?

RT owners will have no choice but to shop Metro...but what Pro users will do will be fascinating to watch.
 
right right. still realistic?

Depends on the next week how many will be at launch, suposedly MS is holding a lot of apps for the launch, for the record I don't think they will reach that number that soon, but 50 000 in 3 months is my bet based on nothing more than my ass lol
 
Honestly going to be interesting tracking how fast or slow the Windows 8 app ecosystem grows and the timing it'll take to be passable. First three months, six months, one year, wonder where its gonna be. Windows 8 adoption will be an interesting metric to track with how it influences app development and how it trickles down to their other platforms, Surface and WP8.

The really interesting metric (at least to me) is going to be the comparison of total apps on the Store as shown in Windows 8 compared to the number visible and available to Windows RT, due to devs who have decided to use the Store to sell desktop apps. (Such as those still developed on XNA)
 
Depends on the next week how many will be at launch, suposedly MS is holding a lot of apps for the launch, for the record I don't think they will reach that number that soon, but 50 000 in 3 months is my bet based on nothing more than my ass lol

seems reasonable. I look forward to seeing the rollout! 50,000 apps in 3 months would be a grand entrance for MS imo. 100,000 seems crazy, but what do I know. If that's just their goal that they're fine falling short of...hey...aim for the stars, and if you hit the moon, hell you still got off the planet.
 
right right. still realistic?
What I said in the W8 RP OT.
How I see it:

vice president + sales and marketing =

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if you're tired, just don't reply. no need to be dickhead-ish about it.
Yes, I have to be dickhead-ish about it. That information was just one click away and posting that question probably took longer than finding it in the OP. Windu is doing a good job on keeping the OP updated and yet we get the same questions on every single page.

"What is Windows RT?"
"Can I install this?"
"What are the specs?"
etc.

It's annoying and not reading the OP should get people banned.
 
The only tablet game I'm interested in is the upcoming Shadowrun game, and I'm guessing there's still a lot of time until that comes out. Nothing else gaming wise really appeals to me for tablets/smartphones, but to be fair I have neither of those, and have only lightly gamed on those platforms. From what I saw though, nothing really grabbed my attention.
 
# of apps isn't the only metric though. Android has a shitton of apps. Still not close to the level of quality of iOS apps overall.

Need quality and quantity.
 
I hope everyone who wanted the $499 model pre-ordered it.

Update: The US Microsoft Store seems to have sold out of its first shipment of the $499 model, or else there's been some sort of delay. It now lists the cheapest $499 model (without Touch Cover) as shipping within three weeks. Originally, it would ship by October 26th.
http://www.theverge.com/2012/10/16/3509982/microsoft-surface-price-499-pre-order


# of apps isn't the only metric though. Android has a shitton of apps. Still not close to the level of quality of iOS apps overall.

Need quality and quantity.

There are probably less tablet apps on the Play Store than on the Windows Store.
 
# of apps isn't the only metric though. Android has a shitton of apps. Still not close to the level of quality of iOS apps overall.

Need quality and quantity.


No, but the number increases the probabilities of finding good apps.

MS has 2 huge challenges ahead, convince developers that its store is worth developing for, and convince consumers that its store is worth buying from.

Android only has the first, which has caused that developers still think iOS first and Android in a distant second, especially for games and other specialized apps suchs as medical ones
 
# of apps isn't the only metric though. Android has a shitton of apps. Still not close to the level of quality of iOS apps overall.

Need quality and quantity.

The problem with Android apps I find is the moving target that is the variety of hardware combinations and specifications. ends up making some apps choppy and that kind of thing. generally speaking, if you have new Android hardware you're getting the best possible experience. though I suppose that experience is somewhat compromised by building to the lowest reasonable common denominator at times.

On a similar note, Windows Metro is going to have to deal with this to some degree too. Metro apps are going to want to be designed to run smoothly on the lowest possible spec RT machine hardware, which of course means lost potential features on the i5 Pro's. But maybe I'm wrong on that. Not sure.

There are probably less tablet apps on the Play Store than on the Windows Store.

sad but quite true. Android tablets have sold like shit, and the app availability reflects that reality.
 
No, but the number increases the probabilities of finding good apps.

MS has 2 huge challenges ahead, convince developers that its store is worth developing for, and convince consumers that its store is worth buying from.

Android only has the first, which has caused that developers still think iOS first and Android in a distant second, especially for games and other apps suchs as medical ones
I think they just have to convince consumers to use the store because the OS will sell at least 200 million and that will bring in the devs...if consumers use the store.
 
Not a bad price for the RT model but it's not interesting to me, waiting for the pro model so it's more like a current windows pc then a tablet with windows and an app store only deal.
 
the entire question of how big Metro will be is a fascinating one. How will people adapt to it? Will Pro users bother to buy Metro apps when they'll still be able to get most apps that they need for free on the regular desktop?

Sometimes I feel like people buy apps for dedicated tablets (like iOS/Android) because there's no other choice. But when you can swipe and reveal the desktop to see the weather, is anyone going to buy a weather app in Metro? How about RSS apps? Video streaming clients?

RT owners will have no choice but to shop Metro...but what Pro users will do will be fascinating to watch.

Anyone using their Surface as a tablet is going to prefer the Metro apps because they are geared towards touch. Not to mention, your average consumer is going to be a lot more comfortable downloading apps from the Windows Store than they are searching the net and downloading random utilities.
 
Anyone using their Surface as a tablet is going to prefer the Metro apps because they are geared towards touch.
speak for yourself. do not propose to know the mind of everyone planning on buying a surface tablet.

I'd suggest that many will use it as a regular tablet while in transit or while chilling out on the couch, but will often revert back to the desktop mode as soon as they have a solid surface to type on available.

...and I wonder how many people that will represent and how many Metro apps those people will buy.
 
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