K-Pop takes America

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I know there's a large K-pop contingent on GAF, so I'm sure they'll enjoy this article from The Verge. It details about K-Pop's emergence into the US. Warning: It's a fairly long article.

http://www.theverge.com/2012/10/18/3516562/k-pop-invades-america-south-korea-pop-music-factory

K-Pop takes America: how South Korea's music machine is conquering the world

The Verge spent a solid twelve hours at K-Con, an event for K-Pop fans featuring musical guests, panel discussions on things like Korean music and fashion, a number of merchant booths, and over 10,000 ticket holders, according to MNet. The highlight of the night was a concert in the Verizon Wireless Amphitheater where a half-dozen acts performed — many for the first time in the United States.

K-Pop, in case you haven’t been paying attention, is a particularly catchy and calculating strain of Korean popular music that somehow manages to simultaneously sound like just about every contemporary musical genre, a conflation of the various strains of electronic dance music — mostly trance, electro, and dubstep — arranged in conventional pop song structure. In addition to taking off in Asia in a big way, K-Pop has found some popularity in the United States, more as a subculture than as a bona fide phenomenon in the west.

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"K-Pop is not just a song or a genre, it's an entire culture," explained Martina. "You're really getting involved in a community of people. They all like the same band as you, and you all get to know the same thing, and it becomes a family of people. So that's why everyone's so passionate."
 
The only thing I know about K-Pop is that it is partially responsible for breaking up a gaffers parents marriage.
 
2 or 3 songs making it big doesn't mean shit is "conquering the world". Less hyperbole, please.

Beyond Psy, people don't even know these artists' names. Actually, most don't even know Psy's name; just the title of his big song.
 
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No one I know listens to K-Pop. They're aware of Gangnam Style because it's played on the radio and they think it's funny but I doubt they'd actively go out and listen to K-Pop.
 
I listen to a lot of K-Pop. Artists like Gangnam Style and Gee are my favourite bands.
I love Bulgogi, Korean culture is vastly superior to us lowly North American baka gaijin. I can't wait until I graduate then I will move to Korea and teach English full time.
 
I listen to a lot of K-Pop. Artists like Gangnam Style and Gee are my favourite bands.
I love Bulgogi, Korean culture is vastly superior to us lowly North American baka gaijin. I can't wait until I graduate then I will move to Korea and teach English full time.

8/10 Good troll, would get fake angry again.
 
If by K-pop you mean PSY, then yes, for like another week. Otherwise, no.
 
Such bullshit that ignores reality. Gangnam Style is taking the world by storm because it's a likeable pop-song with hilarious video and Psy has a cool personality.

Nothing else will come close to breaking mainstream.

Also, it's popular because it's funny. It continues to be challenging as all hell for Asian males to ever be seen as cool or sexy in the west.
 
This shit is garbage. Why is it popular with older men? I always see 20-something guys sporting kpop avatars and such on various forums, while deriding Bieber and the like; it's all the same thing to my ears.
 
This shit is garbage. Why is it popular with older men? I always see 20-something guys sporting kpop avatars and such on various forums, while deriding Bieber and the like; it's all the same thing to my ears.

because the beat is simple. Psy proves all you need in pop music is a catchy hook and you'll sell.
 
I've tried to get into kpop a few times. I'll go to youtube and find some videos with an insane amount of views, and then end up watching a bunch of background dancers for 3 minutes. Generally the music also seem to fail at being catchy, which is weird since it's the one thing pop is supposed to be good at. I feel like I am missing something here but maybe it just isn't for me.
 
Kpoop is marketed the way it is because the home market can't support it on its own.
 
I won't go all out and say that K-Pop is garbage, because it's not. But I will say that K-Pop doesn't have a snowball's chance in hell of breaking the US market in any meaningful way. It's not just the music; the culture surrounding the music, and the factors that determine what's popular, are just completely different.

It also doesn't help that the K-Pop community and fans are incredibly insular by choice. Any attempt by a group to "Westernize" their sound and appearance is usually immediately balked at by the fans (see: 2NE1). Not a bad thing. It's understandable the K-Pop fans wouldn't want the things they love so much about the genre to change, but because of that I just don't ever see K-Pop becoming anything more than niche market in the US (and most of the West).


Gangnam Style shouldn't even be considered. It's not smashing all over the world because it's K-Pop. It's smashing because it's the new, lesser Macarena.
 
This shit is garbage. Why is it popular with older men? I always see 20-something guys sporting kpop avatars and such on various forums, while deriding Bieber and the like; it's all the same thing to my ears.
It's mostly popular with girls though. Why do men like it? Well it's catchy music with good dancing and choreo, the girls/women in it probably don't hurt either. Not everything has to be of high cultural value to be enjoyed. I enjoy Call of Duty and liked the Avengers movie as well.
I won't go all out and say that K-Pop is garbage, because it's not. But I will say that K-Pop doesn't have a snowball's chance in hell of breaking the US market in any meaningful way. It's not just the music; the culture surrounding the music, and the factors that determine what's popular, are just completely different.
I agree with this, the article seems to agree with that as well(at least "the expert" opinion does).
 
I do remember the Korean festival last year in NYC being filled to capacity when a couple of kpop acts came and I also remember the SMtown Madison square garden concert being nearly sold out. That probably has a lot to do with those two events being in NYC though.

It also doesn't help that the K-Pop community and fans are incredibly insular by choice. Any attempt by a group to "Westernize" their sound and appearance is usually immediately balked at by the fans (see: 2NE1). Not a bad thing. It's understandable the K-Pop fans wouldn't want the things they love so much about the genre to change, but because of that I just don't ever see K-Pop becoming anything more than niche market in the US (and most of the West).

Again I think that's weird since a large influence on kpop is hip-hop, r&b, american boy bands and other movements that came out of the 90s. In fact a lot of kpop groups now are going for that tough street image. BAP is an example.
 
i think its funny that out of all kpop stars the chubby one made it. not 2NE1, not SNSD, it was psy. i love that. maybe the chubby one from super junior is thinking about a solo career now? lol

i love me some k-pop but i doubt that other songs are going to succeed in the us. i hope psy enjoys his time right now. and looking at his recent live performances (in and outside of korea) it seems like he does. very humble guy.
 
Psy is playing non-stop on the radio down here in Florida. You fucking know it has won when its one of the 10 songs they put on loop in the retirement state of special folk.
 
2 or 3 songs making it big doesn't mean shit is "conquering the world". Less hyperbole, please.

Beyond Psy, people don't even know these artists' names. Actually, most don't even know Psy's name; just the title of his big song.

Yup. Ask some average joe and he won't be able to name one single person from SNSD. I think they'll know 'PSY' by now though, plus he has an easy name to remember.
 
I love 2ne1, Wonder Girls, and Top. But I don't think most kpop stars have the personalty or swagger to be anything but a novelty in the USA.
 
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