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- Thread starter The Technomancer
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Bought a collection. Pretty happy about it.
highlights:
4x Gaea's Cradle
4x Arcbound Ravager
4x Chrome Mox
3x Yawgmoth's Will
2x Grim Monolith
2x FOIL Reveillark
Rishadan Port
Tolarian Academy
2x Reveillark
Serra's Sanctum
Maelstrom Pulse
2 Idyllic Tutor
2 City of Brass
etc etc. 675~ rares altogether, only 400 of 'em were bulk... which I immediately made a crap rare cube out of. The dude had everything not listed above as "mystery" aka bulk, and I was shocked to find cards I paid under bulk price for end up being things like woodfall primus.
highlights:
4x Gaea's Cradle
4x Arcbound Ravager
4x Chrome Mox
3x Yawgmoth's Will
2x Grim Monolith
2x FOIL Reveillark
Rishadan Port
Tolarian Academy
2x Reveillark
Serra's Sanctum
Maelstrom Pulse
2 Idyllic Tutor
2 City of Brass
etc etc. 675~ rares altogether, only 400 of 'em were bulk... which I immediately made a crap rare cube out of. The dude had everything not listed above as "mystery" aka bulk, and I was shocked to find cards I paid under bulk price for end up being things like woodfall primus.
WanderingWind
Mecklemore Is My Favorite Wrapper
Magic: Modern Masters announced.
Small, limited run of modern reprints. 229 cards, 15 mythics (some of which were prior to mythic demonstations)
Tarmogoyf announced as a mythic, with new art.
Packs cost 6.99. Boxes 200 bucks.
Small, limited run of modern reprints. 229 cards, 15 mythics (some of which were prior to mythic demonstations)
Tarmogoyf announced as a mythic, with new art.
Packs cost 6.99. Boxes 200 bucks.
Modern Masters, Limited print run set 229 cards, from 8th- Alara Reborn. 6.99 MSRP per booster, 24 boosters per box (so perfect for drafting). Draft experience will allow "Drafting a Storm deck vs a Faries deck". New Art for some cards, new arts for Tokens.
- No cards that are currently banned (Like Jace TMS, Ponder, ect), or cards they consider on the cusp of banning will be included in the set (I doubt Bloodbraid Elf will be in this)
- Will be on MTGO, but not redeemable
- Foil card will replace the basic land in every pack
- No Prereleases
Tarmagoyf is first card confirmed in the set, as a Mythic Rare
I HATE that this is a limited product, but I am happy that they are upping some cards to Mythics. Will probably make them a little easier to get now, and will, if nothing else, probably chop 20% off the value of current cards.
June 2013 release date
Oh, and most importantly, There will be a limited Grand Prix using this set! Hope its in North America, preferably on the East Coast!
- No cards that are currently banned (Like Jace TMS, Ponder, ect), or cards they consider on the cusp of banning will be included in the set (I doubt Bloodbraid Elf will be in this)
- Will be on MTGO, but not redeemable
- Foil card will replace the basic land in every pack
- No Prereleases
Tarmagoyf is first card confirmed in the set, as a Mythic Rare
I HATE that this is a limited product, but I am happy that they are upping some cards to Mythics. Will probably make them a little easier to get now, and will, if nothing else, probably chop 20% off the value of current cards.
June 2013 release date
Oh, and most importantly, There will be a limited Grand Prix using this set! Hope its in North America, preferably on the East Coast!
Zaraki_Kenpachi
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I didn't even know that existed in MTGO. Rules question is MUCH STUPIDER than that.
Will these modern masters packs be something you can actually get for MSRP or priced past MSRP like the "from the vault" stuff is.
WanderingWind
Mecklemore Is My Favorite Wrapper
I didn't even know that existed in MTGO. Rules question is MUCH STUPIDER than that.
Will these modern masters packs be something you can actually get for MSRP or priced past MSRP like the "from the vault" stuff is.
Depends on how limited the limited run is. They specifically said they wanted it out of the hands of poorer...er, "newer" players, so I'm guessing at least a 50 percent markup.
I think they are handling that separately with products like 'Commander's Arsenal'.
Zaraki_Kenpachi
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Ya, meaning it will bring them down slightly but still be obnoxious in price. It won't have much effect I'm assuming, there's too much interest in the supply they'll like provide.
Zaraki_Kenpachi
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I can't find any bots with trostani still, only the avatar.
I could see the "limited run" for "competitive players" be defined as the same numbers as summer releases like Commander's Arsenal... but only available at LGSs. A "new" player picking up some packs from wal-mart wouldn't get it by mistake if they did it like that.
My "I took 15 mins to make some guesses" list for the mythic rares in this set
Archbound Ravager
Crucible of Worlds
Vedalkin Shackles
Mutavault
Vendilion Clique
Gifts Ungiven
Dark Confidant
Damnation
Tarmagoyf
Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker
Elspeth, Knight-Errant
Knight of the Releguery
Doran, the Siege Tower
Maelstrom Pulse
Ajani Vengent
Anyone got any better ideas? I tried to pick cards that were all worth money, would have the possibility of being printed at Mythic if made today (so no Thoughtsieze, for example), and were all playable or staples in Modern.
And as far as rariety of the product, I think the booster boxes will be slightly less rare than any given FTV. So if your store normally got 3-4 FTV, they will be able to order 5-6 booster boxes. And this won't be sold in either gravity packs or blister packs, so you won't be able to go to Target or something and get them
Archbound Ravager
Crucible of Worlds
Vedalkin Shackles
Mutavault
Vendilion Clique
Gifts Ungiven
Dark Confidant
Damnation
Tarmagoyf
Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker
Elspeth, Knight-Errant
Knight of the Releguery
Doran, the Siege Tower
Maelstrom Pulse
Ajani Vengent
Anyone got any better ideas? I tried to pick cards that were all worth money, would have the possibility of being printed at Mythic if made today (so no Thoughtsieze, for example), and were all playable or staples in Modern.
And as far as rariety of the product, I think the booster boxes will be slightly less rare than any given FTV. So if your store normally got 3-4 FTV, they will be able to order 5-6 booster boxes. And this won't be sold in either gravity packs or blister packs, so you won't be able to go to Target or something and get them
divisionbyzorro
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How silly of me; I didn't realize that Flusterstorm was printed in one of the multiplayer expansions (and thus not Modern legal). Good call.
Did they mention how the other rarities will work? Like could Noble Hierarch (a rare) be printed at common? What common staples are there?
I don't know what will be Mythic, but I disagree with Maelstrom Pulse, Archbound Ravager and Damnation being there.
Zaraki_Kenpachi
Member
Cardbot goes that high? Damn, I only had up to cardbot4, I thought I copied from their website too. I guess I have to search for bot names again.
I just got my playset for 12 tickets, Yay!
divisionbyzorro
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This will do wonders for the secondary market, but for the love of everything holy, don't buy a box unless you're actually going to draft with it. Please, people. Think of your wallets.
I don't really understand why you are all going so crazy over Trostani, she's not really very good. She's expensive in paper because it's an EDH mythic, I really doubt it will ever get played in proper constructed.
And I'd buy a box of Modern Masters if I was looking to get into Modern and there are enough staples at all rarities.
And I'd buy a box of Modern Masters if I was looking to get into Modern and there are enough staples at all rarities.
Zaraki_Kenpachi
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Because a decent amount of us wanted to make a token deck and she's $3. How much lower could she go?
I'm tempted to get a playset of all the shocklands while they're cheap, not sure if they'll jump in price eventually.
divisionbyzorro
Member
They're only going to keep going down until RtR stops being opened in drafts. I've been actively selling each one I've picked up in drafts so far.
You might see some rares printed at uncommon (If Isamaru, Hound of Konda is in this, he will probably be an uncommon), but I doubt they will move cards from rare to common.
There are tons of good cards at common that they can reprint- staples from Robots/Affinity (Darksteel Citadel, Cranial Plating, Springleaf Drum, Chromatic Sphere and Star), Storm (Grapeshot, Empty the Warrens, Seething Song, Desperate Ritual, Serum Visions, Sleight of Hand), as well as tons of other odds and ends- Repeal, Relic of Progenitus, Martyr of Sands, Spellstutter Sprite, Pestermite, ect. It won't be hard for them to put in staples, plus cards that will make limited fun (Pacifism effect for white, kill spells for black, fatties for green, flyers for blue, ect).
Uncommons in this set will be fucking insane, however.
Zaraki_Kenpachi
Member
Really? Damn, $5-$7 a pop just seems cheap. I guess I'll wait then.
Yup. Just wait till MTGO redemptions hit. Oh boy.
Zaraki_Kenpachi
Member
Ya, that's what I'm afraid. Guess I'll keep an eye on them then.
Edit: I have a possibly stupid question about MTGO, if you go to redeem a set and say you only have a foil of a particular card, will they give you a foil or you'll just get a regular card?
They need to all match. All Foil or all normal.
Zaraki_Kenpachi
Member
Ah, that kind of sucks.
WanderingWind
Mecklemore Is My Favorite Wrapper
My wallet am already cry
divisionbyzorro
Member
WTF. Some guy had the balls to run Eggs at the Pro Tour? And he started 5-0 with it? Damn son.
Geez. No wonder they don't like to feature this deck on camera. This is like...deck masturbation. Magic is much more fun when you're playing with someone else.
Geez. No wonder they don't like to feature this deck on camera. This is like...deck masturbation. Magic is much more fun when you're playing with someone else.
How to play against eggs:
Hit F6
Wait
I'm actually fairly certain playing certain builds of eggs constitute stalling. It is, however, an insanely good deck, with very favorable matchups against many tier 1 decks (most notably crushing pod ~75% of the time.)
It's a great metagame decision right now.
Personally I don't think Jund will see any top 8 slots at all. All it gained from RTR is abrupt decay, and for the last year or so of modern it's been very poor in daily events.
It has plenty of answers and access to some great beaters and card advantage, but it's still a slow, incremental advantage deck that gets blown out by almost every single combo deck in the format. My record against it with pod is something like 90% over quite a few games; it's very rare to lose your first game, and even post-board isn't too challenging.
From what I can tell, it's the deck you play when you don't know anything about the format. It's a very common first choice for Legacy players first coming to modern, and it's not a good one.
https://www.wizards.com/Magic/Digital/MagicOnlineTourn.aspx?x=mtg/digital/magiconline/tourn/4453074
For a preview of what the top 8/16 are going to look like in the pro tour, here's the Modern RTR spotlight event that just finished. Seven unique decks in the top 8, with the always inexpensive (and uninteractive) Urzatron taking two slots. Only one pod deck, and, perplexingly enough, it's the slower and easier to interrupt) Melira version.
Jund and Valakut are completely absent from the top 8.
Knowing my LGS, there'll be boxes for 40% off day one. Fuck my wallet, I'm cracking one of those
Bought a Rakdos pre-con today mistaking it for the one with Mizzum Mortars. I know now it's the Izzet deck. Oops. However, the two packs more than made up for it, containing an Angel of Serenity, a Niv Mizzit and a foil rare (the black enchantment that takes cards from graveyards). Makes me feel a little better about my failure of a fat pack from last week.
divisionbyzorro
Member
It's also basically unplayable on MTGO, right? Can you reliably win twice with that deck within 25 minutes? So many players use MTGO to test before the PT.
I think a lot of players in this tournament simply decided to ignore the deck. PVDDR had a great article about the Player's Championship on Channel Fireball where he described the environments where you would or wouldn't play a combo deck:
PVDDR said:
The idea being that the top level players acknowledge that they're top level players and deliberately try to create interactive matchups where they can leverage their skill to create an advantage. Combo decks certainly require a modicum of skill to know when and how to go off, but playing a combo deck is putting yourself in a situation to where it's more about deck versus deck and not about player versus player.
Zaraki_Kenpachi
Member
My friend said he won a japanese Angel of Serenity on ebay for $15... That seems way too cheap.
Have him link you to the finished auction.
Anyone need Blood Crypts that has Temple Gardens?
Edit: Odd, just had a Japanese Noble Hierarch fall into my lap. So the Angel may have happened lol
Zaraki_Kenpachi
Member
It will continue all year until next summer.
All ready fed up with the whining and Sky is falling crap.
It is a good thing, with no downsides.
If your LGS jacks the prices up, then you need to find a better LGS.
No more and no less.
Hey, that rhymed...
Zaraki_Kenpachi
Member
You're obviously just ignorant if you think it won't happen...
They announced a North American GP that'll be Modern Masters limited format, so I can't imagine the product being stupidly limited, like Commander's Arsenal.
$200 for a box doesn't sound all that crazy, however, seeing as the MSRP is $168. I can easily see game shops selling these things for $10+ a pack if staple commons/uncommons and BIG money rares besides Tarmo are in the set. They'll just use the fact that it's a one-shot thing as an excuse.
On a related note, I much prefer the new Tarmogoyf.
$200 for a box doesn't sound all that crazy, however, seeing as the MSRP is $168. I can easily see game shops selling these things for $10+ a pack if staple commons/uncommons and BIG money rares besides Tarmo are in the set. They'll just use the fact that it's a one-shot thing as an excuse.
On a related note, I much prefer the new Tarmogoyf.
divisionbyzorro
Member
If the set is well put together, the price could be worth it to draft. But like I said - don't buy boxes if you're just going to crack packs and sit in a pile of cards and wrappers.
EDIT: Back to catching up on the Pro Tour; watching Round 14 now. It's incredible how much of a baby Nassif is being on camera about his slow play warnings.
I've appealed the cautions in situations where we were actually on the last 2-3 turns of the match and were in no danger of actually timing off (the rules are terrible here because you're at the mercy of what the judge feels is right) but he was playing so horribly slowly on every turn that it wasn't even defensible. Figure out what your line is and do the most damage. Then pass. Very frustrating to watch.
divisionbyzorro
Member
Yeah; it certainly didn't seem like the judges were being too harsh on him. I do appreciate that the match had some tricky interactions and it was important to get it right, and I certainly don't blame him for taking his time, but he didn't seem to react well to the situation. It's too bad too; I have an unnatural hatred for infect decks and was hoping he would take down that match.
JetBlackPanda
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So I am just getting back into magic after about 13 years! I was supposed to go to the pre release for ravnica but got screwed out of that (I posted about it on here) anyways my question is a deck builders tool kit good for getting some starting cards? Fat pack? What would you guys suggest? I am not looking to play in tournaments or anything just kitchen table games against friends and stuff.
Thanks
Thanks
well are you playing casual or competitive magic
for cassual, i'd suggest getting some of these
http://abugames.com/shop.cgi?comman...edition=0&displaystyle=list&x=0&y=0&showall=1
it gives you a crap ton of cards, and let's you build within the set. really good for building up your card collection, also the deckbuilders toolkit is real nice
if you want competitive, get an event deck and play with it, then work your magic on the deck, and make it good
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