Digital Foundry -- Halo 4 Tech Analysis
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XtremeXpider
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It is not the same power needed for handle a corridor than a wide open area with vehicles, enemies (with AI).
Only franchise on PS3 that does scope for a FPS shooter IMO is Resistance.
It's alot easier to pimp a linear game graphically (Uncharted, Gears, Killzone, God of War) to a open one.
Crysis 2 gave you the most check box features for graphics on consoles at the expense of sub HD and a cinematic framerate.
JonathanPower
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One thing I don't like in Halo4 from the video I have seen thus far is the Hud, with elements of the helmet getting in the way of the screen. Is there an option to turn it off? Other than that, I think that this game looks simply amazing, much better than UC3 and anything on Ps3.
Silly.Mikey
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Ya id say thats a lot closer to Halo technically speaking than Killzone or UC are.
Yep, when Uncharted 3 does ocean simulation and physics of the whole ship and every items/npc on it.
Killzone 3/2 have quite big battlezones and AI is on pair with Halo.
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But Halo environments are really empty and Far Cry 3 do much more than Halo 4 from what i've seen and its proper open world game.
Also Crysis 2 was first Crytek's game on the platforms, will see how C3 will present.
Lion Heart
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Not the first time I've seen you call out one side and not the other. At least there are posters like Reiko who can see both sides acting stupid.
Warm Machine
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More than any other Halo game the hud makes you feel like you are the Chief.
I'd argue SSAO would actually get in the way of the art direction. It works well in Gears but I'm not so sure it lends itself to Halo very well.
Digital-Hero
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XtremeXpider
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With smaller scenarios and not the same AI (and a lot of scripts).
Not the same as the bigger Halo scenarios.
There is not "perfect game". Some things are better and some things are worse. All are very enjoyable.
palpabl_purpura
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Leave it to df to butter up ms and xbox. Can't say it isn't well deserved though.
SmokedMeat
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One of the best looking console games of this gen? I've really got to see this now.
BruiserBear
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I have to finish Halo 4 to give my final opinion on it's graphics as a whole, but I'm just happy we finally have a 360 exclusive that is clearly in the same ballpark as the big ones on PS3.
720p native, no screen tearing, and a solid framerate. IMO you can't even enter the conversation without checking those three boxes. From there we can begin the conversation.
Ironically the 360 just received another game in Forza Horizon, that is also worthy of being in this conversation. This is the kind of cool shit I love about the final year of a console. You're seeing the best of what they're capable of.
720p native, no screen tearing, and a solid framerate. IMO you can't even enter the conversation without checking those three boxes. From there we can begin the conversation.
Ironically the 360 just received another game in Forza Horizon, that is also worthy of being in this conversation. This is the kind of cool shit I love about the final year of a console. You're seeing the best of what they're capable of.
XtremeXpider
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Played about 1 hour of the campaign today, and it looks amazing. But judging by the screens on the analysis, I've seen nothing yet!
btw, the game looks awesome not only graphics.
warthog + water is always fun =D
Halo 4 or Halo 3?
Played about 1 hour of the campaign today, and it looks amazing. But judging by the screens on the analysis, I've seen nothing yet!
btw, the game looks awesome not only graphics.
warthog + water is always fun =D
Yep. I played in the water as soon as I saw..there was water! Always gotta check out the water in a game lol.
Baconsammy
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LOL @ all the PS3 game talk. Nothing like Halo to bring out the console warriors. I had to make sure I clicked on the proper thread when I saw a page full of Uncharted posts. Congrats to 343 for being able to pick up where Bungie left off and not just carry on the series, but also improve it. Now hurry up and patch in a good Warthog engine sound. The lawnmower just aint cutting it.
gaming_noob
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That is from Halo 4. I believe the water is still better in 3.
Tallshortman
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How would you know if you haven't actually played the game? I still find it amazing that someone would make statements without actually knowing what they're comparing. Screens don't look as good as KZ or Uncharted, but they look pretty good.
XtremeXpider
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But it looks more "natural" than Halo 3.
You need to see Halo 4 on your TV. It is outstanding, images don't make it justice.
CrunchinJelly
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You appear to have missed the second sentence of his post.
Tears For Fears
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People keep saying "amazing for the X360." Why is GAF always so ignorant?
Metalmurphy
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"PS3 game talk" was brought in by the Halo "console warriors". Just saying...
What does that even mean? lol
Silly.Mikey
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Because some actually believed that Uncharted or KZ wasn't possible on 360. They bought into the PR bullshit.
Looks pretty amazing on my 55".
Ignorant in what sense ?
MagicWithEarvin
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It only took four posts into the thread for it to get started.
Tallshortman
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Nope, didn't miss anything. Maybe you don't quite understand his post? Art is pretty subjective and should be taken in throughout the game. KZ3 has some amazing environments/art in the jungle levels. Hands down is a pretty clear statement to make without actually playing at least one of the games he's talking about.
I haven't played it but I have watched my friends play it on an HDTV and it does look nice. Was impressed they finally brought Halo graphics into high end territory but nothing I saw looked as good from a technical standpoint as UC2/3 or KZ2/3, though the lighting effects looked on par.
Extremely good looking game with lighting that sells it all. Not the best this generation in my opinion, but definitely pleasing to play. 
I think it's even better that it's a Halo game because the visuals have that much more of an impact after being used to the previous games. This was almost like a min-generational jump compared to the other Halo games.
I think it's even better that it's a Halo game because the visuals have that much more of an impact after being used to the previous games. This was almost like a min-generational jump compared to the other Halo games.
Baconsammy
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Someone needs to modify that This Is Neogaf gif to simply read: Halo
XtremeXpider
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Do you know what "script" mean in gameplay?
Karak
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I have yet to see a perfect game. Issues abound with every single game out there in the GFX department so me comparing 1 and saying its above all others seems impossible. There is always something that could be better, higher, faster, what have you.
I will say that on my 120 inch projector screen the overall aesthetic that Halo presents is in the top 3 games I have ever played. Maybe its the res, the lighting, their art direction, whatever, but the overall package of whats occurring and how is it presented is extraordinary. Having played pretty much all the supposedly best looking games on PC and the consoles, to me that means a great deal.
Additionally seeing Forza Horizon in action also had me pleasantly surprised. Late gen games frequently do this kind of thing and this gen seems no exception. Bravo to the team. The hardware is static, teams never are, and this shows that they knew what they needed to deliver and did so.
I will say that on my 120 inch projector screen the overall aesthetic that Halo presents is in the top 3 games I have ever played. Maybe its the res, the lighting, their art direction, whatever, but the overall package of whats occurring and how is it presented is extraordinary. Having played pretty much all the supposedly best looking games on PC and the consoles, to me that means a great deal.
Additionally seeing Forza Horizon in action also had me pleasantly surprised. Late gen games frequently do this kind of thing and this gen seems no exception. Bravo to the team. The hardware is static, teams never are, and this shows that they knew what they needed to deliver and did so.
Assuming Halo 4 comes out in (all probability) 2014, it'll surely be on XB3. And it won't be too far of an assumption that 343 will lead as the example of how to make visually stellar games on the new generation of Xbox hardware.
And unlike people who are bent on comparing Halo and PS3 exclusive (because insecurity can be such a bitch of thing) I'm just glad that they all exist. They are a testament to what's possible when first parties ring the necks of these outdated and obsolete hardwares.
And unlike people who are bent on comparing Halo and PS3 exclusive (because insecurity can be such a bitch of thing) I'm just glad that they all exist. They are a testament to what's possible when first parties ring the necks of these outdated and obsolete hardwares.
It is amusing you rarely see amazing for PS3 in exclusive OT threads.
"It's just amazing and insert developer are wizards."
But it's less of a issue with console warriors and more of a issue with a PC gamer looking through his/her lens.
XtremeXpider
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Now, put a direct-feed shot from U3 or KZ3.
Metalmurphy
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This is a script:
http://www.abload.de/img/untitledb2xyc.png
Did you mean "scripted"? No, the ocean is dynamically generated and all the objects are fully interacted with it and the characters through Havok. It's not just a bunch of "scripts".
All games are possible on other consoles, with changes. Without changes U3 and KZ2/3 are not possible on 360, just like Halo 4 wouldn't be on PS3.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=44097535&postcount=188
tinfoilhatman
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Its sad there's console gamer out there that have still yet to experience anything like this in a FPS
This
XtremeXpider
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I am not talking about the ocean.
I'm with you
All games have some bad textures, as Halo 4.
Silly.Mikey
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So they've been stating the obvious for the past 6 years. Good to know.
Metalmurphy
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What were you talking about then? You replied to this "Yep, when Uncharted 3 does ocean simulation and physics of the whole ship and every items/npc on it."
I'm calling any side that brings stupid comparisons into the discussion, I don't care who. Look at my second post in this thread before you're so quick to judge. I don't understand why people compare any games. They are always flawed and based on the poster's preference, making them meaninless.
Let's wait for a Wii-U or ps3 exclusive article, and you'll see me point out how people are being foolish in that thread as well.
I've done that, i still think that GoW 3 its the most impressive game from tech standpoint on PS3, i've called U3 a U 2.3 many times and never understood when they talked about such graphical leap in this game, but at least ND added new things without sacrificing others. KZ 3 is much bigger leap than U3 to their sequels.
I think that Far Cry 3 can be the best looking game on consoles, and then if Crytek wont fail on framerate front Crysis 3.
I'm wrong on what things exactly?
And of course its marriage tech and art, but You cant talk about improvement when You are sacrificing so much, like dynamic lighting, expensive post-processing effects, particles res or completely failing on shadowing front.
Silly.Mikey
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I think hes trying to say is that the water waves in UC for example are somewhat scripted. The waves don't react differently or uniquely every time you play the game where as the water in Halo reacts to the people walking or driving through it. Not the same.
In UC, you follow its flow while in Halo, it reacts to you.
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