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[Mysterious Stranger]

I'll never grow up I'm a toys r us kiiid!

 

[replicashooter]

Feminized?

You can probably make a point for regressed as they are sort of acting childish...but feminized?

Better explain that.

Sure, dude with the camera says in his commentary "Look Hasbro, people are ignoring the rest of your crap cos its aimed at girls and your fanbase is men" which leads me to conclude that if:

a) Grown ass men are running around the toy section with looks of delirious excitement on their faces

b) The aforementioned men state the toys are aimed at young girls

c) The thread title states the toys are aimed at young girls

d) The toys/cartoon are aimed at young girls

The men have been feminized and regressed.

What other conclusion can you draw but that one?

 

[marrec]

Not mat00r enough. Needs more guns, brown and military chatter. Fueled by mtn Dew.

I used to be vehemently against the idea of MLP gaining pop culture significance. Mostly because I'd thought it was more of an ironic movement started by the internet in order to make fun of a company dredging up an old and terrible toy line in order to milk more money out of kids.

Then my son started watching it, and I was like 'Oh... that's why these people watch it.'

They cater to especially the geek crowd with a metric fuck-ton of geek culture references per episode.

 

[The Technomancer]

They cater to especially the geek crowd with a metric fuck-ton of geek culture references per episode.

.... *twitch* *twitch*

 

[Snytbaggen]

Wow, the power of the media is in full effect here. Am I the only one that sees a bunch of regressed, feminized dudes who really should know better?

How exactly would watching it make me feminized? I have a good social life, watch the show and I'm not obnoxious to others about it. I understand that it's definitely not for everyone, and I have only suggested (or mentioned) it to friends who I think would also like the show. So please explain to me how I'm feminized, or how I should know better.

EDIT: Oh, you're talking about the guys in the video. Never mind, then.

 

[injurai]

Sure, dude with the camera says in his commentary "Look Hasbro, people are ignoring the rest of your crap cos its aimed at girls and your fanbase is men" which leads me to conclude that if:

a) Grown ass men are running around the toy section with looks of delirious excitement on their faces

b) The aforementioned men state the toys are aimed at young girls

c) The thread title states the toys are aimed at young girls

d) The toys/cartoon are aimed at young girls

The men have been feminized and regressed.

What other conclusion can you draw but that one?

Men are drawing on the primal instinct to related with the wives and daughters, especially if they are single and have no outlet with the opposite sex.

 

[replicashooter]

How exactly would watching it make me feminized? I have a good social life, watch the show and I'm not obnoxious to others about it. I understand that it's definitely not for everyone, and I have only suggested (or mentioned) it to friends who I think would also like the show. So please explain to me how I'm feminized, or how I should know better.

Are you in the video?

Men are drawing on the primal instinct to related with the wives and daughters, especially if they are single and have no outlet with the opposite sex.

I don't understand what you've typed there. Could you please clarify?

 

[Alucrid]

The McDonalds and hydrogen videos might be the saddest thing I've ever seen

 

[Snytbaggen]

Are you in the video?

I misunderstood your comment, I thought you were talking about the fans in general. My bad.

 

[IceCold]

The weird part to me is how bronies buy all sorts of merchandise, fap to ponies, do questionable fan art, memes, etc. Watching the show because your younger sibling is watching it too is one thing, but some of the crap they do is just weird as hell to anybody that has anything resembling a (not online) social life. All the videos (that documentary comes to mind) I've seen just reinforces my belief that a lot of them are socially stunted. Which makes sense if you look at where this phenomenon started.

But if they enjoy it, and don't hurt anybody in the process I don't see why I should care.

 

[marrec]

Sure, dude with the camera says in his commentary "Look Hasbro, people are ignoring the rest of your crap cos its aimed at girls and your fanbase is men" which leads me to conclude that if:

a) Grown ass men are running around the toy section with looks of delirious excitement on their faces

b) The aforementioned men state the toys are aimed at young girls

c) The thread title states the toys are aimed at young girls

d) The toys/cartoon are aimed at young girls

The men have been feminized and regressed.

What other conclusion can you draw but that one?

The cartoon is aimed at kids. The big difference between this and most other cartoons is that it's not aimed at boys and so you're mistaking that for it obviously being aimed at girls. There are cartoons that are aimed at girls out there, MLP casts a wider net. The toys, however, are mostly aimed at girls. This is a marketing decision, it's easier to sell an entire line of toys to young girls because the young boy market is saturated.

Trust me, my 6 year old son is not being turned into a girl by watching MLP.

.... *twitch* *twitch*

Are you someone who doesn't like when people boil down geekdom to a culture?

 

[KO Traveling Hobo]

What is up with the name Brony? Is that an attempt to push away females from getting involved? Or am I reading too much into that?

I'm pretty sure you're balls-deep in the wrong hole, mang. "Bro" has just become the go-to lazy meme for establishing camaraderie over something, if only because it's so easy to insert it into titles and terms. It has nothing to do with gender.

I still find "brony" to be a godawful way to brand yourself, though. The MLPers kind of shot themselves in the foot with that one.

 

[The Technomancer]

Are you someone who doesn't like when people boil down geekdom to a culture?

Completely regardless of any thoughts about MLP, purely referential humor is one of my big personal annoyances. I don't get why making a pony who looks like Doctor Who and putting him in the background is "awesome". And I see this literally everywhere these days. Our references are becoming references about references.

 

[demidar]

I used to be vehemently against the idea of MLP gaining pop culture significance. Mostly because I'd thought it was more of an ironic movement started by the internet in order to make fun of a company dredging up an old and terrible toy line in order to milk more money out of kids.

Then my son started watching it, and I was like 'Oh... that's why these people watch it.'

They cater to especially the geek crowd with a metric fuck-ton of geek culture references per episode.

I don't really mind if this stuff spread everywhere, seems harmless enough. But then again, I'm the type of guy who'd love to watch the world burn (or at least see a massive paradigm shift).

 

[Amory]

shit makes me shudder involuntarily.

 

[Slayven]

I feel sorry for the parent or kid that Google's mlp and gets taken down the rabbit hole

 

[The Technomancer]

I feel sorry for the parent or kid that Google's mlp and gets taken down the rabbit hole

If I have one genuine "problem" with Bronies that goes beyond general incomprehension, its fear that my young sister who's like 12 and super into the show and is also just heavily getting into using the internet stumbles upon the more twisted side of things. And yeah, if it was the 90s this might be Sonic, but MLP is what's going on now

 

[OriginalNameGuy]

Who the hell goes to Toys R Us for video games? That's like going to Wal Mart for video games.

People who like getting a good deal on their games. Sales galore and there is always some sort of buy x get x free special going on

 

[marrec]

Completely regardless of any thoughts about MLP, purely referential humor is one of my big personal annoyances. Making a pony who looks like Doctor Who and putting him in the background is not funny, and I don't get why people think its "awesome"

I agree completely, but referential symbols like that specifically are not a way for the show to be funny. I'm not one to study pop culture in a scholarly fashion, but in my mind inserting a Doctor Who pony is more of a way for the show creators to tell the adults who are watching 'We get it, you don't like kids shows and we don't like kids shows. We are on your level so keep watching.'

Of course it's not as complicated as that, but when a geek who watches MLP sees the references, they let their guard down a bit. Futurama is good at geek referential humor, MLP is not.

 

[Cuddler]

I don't get the hate for this guys. They like something that I'm not interested in, but they do nothing wrong, they don't break any law, what is the problem? They don't affect anyone else, so for me they can live their life the way they want and do what they likes and makes them happy like every other person in the world.

 

[replicashooter]

I misunderstood your comment, I thought you were talking about the fans in general. My bad.

I was just commenting on what I saw in the video, first time I've ever seen or heard of this kind of stuff. Although now I understand why I see so many ponies (and penises) on that random imgur thing.

The cartoon is aimed at kids. The big difference between this and most other cartoons is that it's not aimed at boys and so you're mistaking that for it obviously being aimed at girls. There are cartoons that are aimed at girls out there, MLP casts a wider net. The toys, however, are mostly aimed at girls. This is a marketing decision, it's easier to sell an entire line of toys to young girls because the young boy market is saturated.

Trust me, my 6 year old son is not being turned into a girl by watching MLP.

Why are you so sensitive to what I said in my post? I was talking about the grown ass men in the video, not your child. Notice the difference - child vs grown man.

Let him watch what he wants to watch. I have a feeling this thread is going to turn into this thread.

 

[injurai]

I don't understand what you've typed there. Could you please clarify?

There is no "regression" of men turning back towards a feminine state. They are merely relating with feminine medium. Men are comforted around woman, and take comfort in relating with their daughters. For these men to be doing this whether sexual or non-sexual its drawing on masculine traits to do so. Urges to either sexualize something that is feminine, or to related and care about something that is feminine is not some regression to femininity in itself.

I honestly find there behavior a bit pathetic in the video, but its important to know how this behavior comes about in the first place. But really does it matter how these people are living their lives?

 

[marrec]

Why are you so sensitive to what I said in my post? I was talking about the grown ass men in the video, not your child. Notice the difference - child vs grown man.

Let him watch what he wants to watch. I have a feeling this thread is going to turn into this thread.

I'm not being sensitive, you're simply wrong in your assessment that the cartoon is specifically aimed at girls. Grown men watching a cartoon aimed at boys and girls is no more feminizing then little boys watching a show aimed at boys and girls.

 

[zoukka]

That's just it though, it's not well written and funny. Not for adults anyway. There are a hundred shows you could be watching that are a hundred times better. Shows that are written for adults. Instead, you chose to watch a cartoon for very young children. Why? That's what makes this phenomenon so interesting. Why would adults watch this instead of the many excellent TV show out there that are made for adults?

Gee, I might have a clue. It's because people have different tastes. We have pop-gaf, anime-gaf, wrassle-gaf etc. Brony-gaf doesn't stand out from those much.

 

[ClassyPenguin]

Sure, dude with the camera says in his commentary "Look Hasbro, people are ignoring the rest of your crap cos its aimed at girls and your fanbase is men" which leads me to conclude that if:

a) Grown ass men are running around the toy section with looks of delirious excitement on their faces

b) The aforementioned men state the toys are aimed at young girls

c) The thread title states the toys are aimed at young girls

d) The toys/cartoon are aimed at young girls

The men have been feminized and regressed.

What other conclusion can you draw but that one?

It doesn't have anything to with that. I was with you up to there.
It has to do with the unhealthy obsession and delusion that they are the intended audience.
Same goes with Creepygaf and those Disney shows with teen girls doing what amounts to fetish videos.

 

[replicashooter]

There is no "regression" of men turning back towards a feminine state. They are merely relating with feminine medium. Men are comforted around woman, and take comfort in relating with their daughters. For these men to be doing this whether sexual or non-sexual its drawing on masculine traits to do so. Urges to either sexualize something that is feminine, or to related and care about something that is feminine is not some regression to femininity in itself.

I honestly find there behavior a bit pathetic in the video, but its important to know how this behavior comes about in the first place. But really does it matter how these people are living their lives?

Interesting, I saw it a different way:

The men's mind have been spun back to an childlike state which is inherently asexual.

Only difference is they are still grown men with sexual urges and testosterone running around their systems which causes them to act in the bizarre fashion illustrated in the video by swinging the psychological sexual pendulum from its natural male home into an over compensatory feminine state to fit in with

a) the medium that has attracted them in the first place

b) to suppress their natural state to allow the illusion to feel complete without any contradictory urges and

c) seek the gratification/satisfaction in this state that they can't achieve in their ordinary one.

All in all where this leads is quite worrying if you think about it.

 

[marrec]

Interesting, I saw it a different way:

The men's mind have been spun back to an childlike state which is inherently asexual.

Only difference is they are still grown men with sexual urges and testosterone running around their systems which causes them to act in the bizarre fashion illustrated in the video by swinging the psychological sexual pendulum from its natural male home into an over compensatory feminine state to fit in with

a) the medium that has attracted them in the first place

b) to suppress their natural state to allow the illusion to feel complete without any contradictory urges and

c) seek the gratification/satisfaction in this state that they can't achieve in their ordinary one.

All in all where this leads is quite worrying if you think about it.

I eagerly await your peer-reviewed paper in Psychology Today. You're obviously a giant in the field and I'm glad someone of your mental prowess has turned his erudite eye on this worrisome and dangerous activity.

 

[FACE]

There are no words harsh enough.

 

[demidar]

Interesting, I saw it a different way:

The men's mind have been spun back to an childlike state which is inherently asexual.

Only difference is they are still grown men with sexual urges and testosterone running around their systems which causes them to act in the bizarre fashion illustrated in the video by swinging the psychological sexual pendulum from its natural male home into an over compensatory feminine state to fit in with

a) the medium that has attracted them in the first place

b) to suppress their natural state to allow the illusion to feel complete without any contradictory urges and

c) seek the gratification/satisfaction in this state that they can't achieve in their ordinary one.

All in all where this leads is quite worrying if you think about it.

It sounds like you're painting a boogeyman because you don't like them, and try and hide behind pseudo-intellectual armchair analysis.

 

[SonicMegaDrive]

I eagerly await your peer-reviewed paper in Psychology Today. You're obviously a giant in the field and I'm glad someone of your mental prowess has turned his erudite eye on this worrisome and dangerous activity.

Actually, a professional and detailed psychoanalysis on the subject would be very interesting to read.

 

[rpmurphy]

It doesn't have anything to with that. I was with you up to there.
It has to do with the unhealthy obsession and delusion that they are the intended audience.
Same goes with Creepygaf and those Disney shows with teen girls doing what amounts to fetish videos.

Define unhealthy obsession.
Are these guys going into financial debt to buy these figurines?
Are these guys abandoning other life's responsibilities to pursue their hobby?
Are these guys physically harming their bodies or harming other people in the process?

I don't see the problem. It's just a bunch of guys who like a cute cartoon buying figurines.

 

[Alucrid]

Completely regardless of any thoughts about MLP, purely referential humor is one of my big personal annoyances. I don't get why making a pony who looks like Doctor Who and putting him in the background is "awesome". And I see this literally everywhere these days. Our references are becoming references about references.

I dunno, if they made the next doctor who a horse I might watch an episode

 

[replicashooter]

I'm not being sensitive, you're simply wrong in your assessment that the cartoon is specifically aimed at girls. Grown men watching a cartoon aimed at boys and girls is no more feminizing then little boys watching a show aimed at boys and girls.

I think you may have missed what I said in this post. Also, this is the second time I'll be stating that I am commenting on the GROWN FOLK IN THE VIDEO AND NOT CHILDREN (of either sex) watching this show.

I eagerly await your peer-reviewed paper in Psychology Today. You're obviously a giant in the field and I'm glad someone of your mental prowess has turned his erudite eye on this worrisome and dangerous activity.

Thank you, it shall be published soon under the title "Ponies And The Men Who Love Them".

It doesn't have anything to with that. I was with you up to there.
It has to do with the unhealthy obsession and delusion that they are the intended audience.
Same goes with Creepygaf and those Disney shows with teen girls doing what amounts to fetish videos.

You are saying exactly what I'm saying only I'm saying it in a blunter fashion.

Grown men obsessing over a TV show aimed at girls = only logical conclusion is the men have been regressed and are acting out a feminine role from that perspective.

 

[marrec]

It sounds like you're painting a boogeyman because you don't like them, and try and hide behind pseudo-intellectual armchair analysis.

Actually, it really sounds like his own identity as a male is being threatened by watching this video. His mind, in an attempt to make sense of fellow men being excited about a TV show focusing on Ponys, as regressed to an pre-coherent thought state. In that regression, his psyche has been rendered blank and allowed to swing over into the 'Post-douche fake-psychologist' state.

 

[injurai]

Interesting, I saw it a different way:

The men's mind have been spun back to an childlike state which is inherently asexual.

Only difference is they are still grown men with sexual urges and testosterone running around their systems which causes them to act in the bizarre fashion illustrated in the video by swinging the psychological sexual pendulum from its natural male home into an over compensatory feminine state to fit in with

a) the medium that has attracted them in the first place

b) to suppress their natural state to allow the illusion to feel complete without any contradictory urges and

c) seek the gratification/satisfaction in this state that they can't achieve in their ordinary one.

All in all where this leads is quite worrying if you think about it.

I would agree that they are over-compensating in some sense. I feel reserved about calling they're state itself to be a feminine one though. It's the same reason why men become attracted to anime girls. They want to protect them, befriend them, and other instinctually masculine behaviors and feelings. I feel this is no different. Masculinity is drawn to femininity which MLP is.

Since MLP is feminine and they are engaging in activities surrounding it, yes their engagement in it can seen as an engagement in a feminine activity. I still wouldn't say they themselves are feminine. I have been surprised on multiple times to meet some "bro" that was very into anime and moe stuff. So I think MLP fandom goes beyond a guy himself being feminine.

 

[Chuckie]

I'm pretty sure you're balls-deep in the wrong hole, mang. "Bro" has just become the go-to lazy meme for establishing camaraderie over something, if only because it's so easy to insert it into titles and terms. It has nothing to do with gender.

I still find "brony" to be a godawful way to brand yourself, though. The MLPers kind of shot themselves in the foot with that one.

While appearantly is used for both genders, I think that in the beginning it was because it are mainly male fans. I know there are adult female fans too... but it is mostly males in those video's, conventions and stuff.

Edit: Appearantly female fans are sometimes called "Pegasister"

 

[EVOL 100%]

While appearantly is used for both genders, I think that in the beginning it was because it are mainly male fans. I know there are adult female fans too... but it is mostly males in those video's, conventions and stuff.

I never actually seen a female MLP fan. I guess the male fans or more conspicuous and likely to garner more attention?

 

[marrec]

I never actually seen a female MLP fan. I guess the male fans or more conspicuous and likely to garner more attention?

Well most of the attention for MLP fans in negative, and it's easier to be negative about an MLP fan if they're male.

 

[replicashooter]

It sounds like you're painting a boogeyman because you don't like them, and try and hide behind pseudo-intellectual armchair analysis.

I've never met them, don't know anyone like them and this is the first I've ever heard of this phenomenon. If my post strikes you a pseudo intellectual then please feel free to critique it and issue a rebuff on the points I have raised.

I look forward to your response.

Actually, it really sounds like his own identity as a male is being threatened by watching this video. His mind, in an attempt to make sense of fellow men being excited about a TV show focusing on Ponys, as regressed to an pre-coherent thought state. In that regression, his psyche has been rendered blank and allowed to swing over into the 'Post-douche fake-psychologist' state.

Wow, I really have hit a nerve with you haven't I? Here I am simply stating my perspective on what I saw in the video (can you deny any of what I have stated - only in that context, keep your child out of it) and you create a pastiche of my post in an attempt to attack me with it?

Why do you react so aggressively to what I said?

 

[SonicMegaDrive]

I never actually seen a female MLP fan. I guess the male fans or more conspicuous and likely to garner more attention?

I used to be friends with a woman in her mid-20's who was really obsessed with My Little Pony. She had hundreds of the dolls scattered all over her bedroom and everything. Of course, this was long, long before the whole 'brony' thing started, so she might not count.

 

[Chuckie]

I never actually seen a female MLP fan. I guess the male fans or more conspicuous and likely to garner more attention?

Found one!

Edit and more:

 

[ClassyPenguin]

You are saying exactly what I'm saying only I'm saying it in a blunter fashion.

Grown men obsessing over a TV show aimed at girls = only logical conclusion is the men have been regressed and are acting out a feminine role from that perspective.

I'm not saying that they are "feminized" which is a bullshit term anyway. Masculinity/femininity has nothing to do with it. Maturity (no, not videogame boob physics maturity)? Yes.
I'm saying is that they get angry at the fact that the company who makes the cartoon as a kids show to sell toys to kids is selling toys to kids and not as they say "grown men who have money" and ignoring the "true fanbase".

I've said before, Pixar, Disney, WB all make cartoons that are enjoyable by all genders, all ages and it's the same for those obsessed fans too.

 

[marrec]

Wow, I really have hit a nerve with you haven't I? Here I am simply stating my perspective on what I saw in the video (can you deny any of what I have stated - only in that context, keep your child out of it) and you create a pastiche of my post in an attempt to attack me with it?

Why do you react so aggressively to what I said?

Pop-psychological examinations from people who are threatened by a kids show get under my skin.

I'm not going to try and talk about your faux-intellectual analysis because there's nothing substantive about it, you're using words that aren't applicable in this instance to describe a few men who are excited about a kids show.

 

[Backfoggen]

They seem confused.

 

[DrForester]

I really just can't understand it. My 4 year old daughter likes MLP so I have a hard time equating her tastes with that of 20 something guys.

Not talking about the creepier side of the fandom (which is present in all big fandoms, careful what you Google with Harry Potter), but lets talk about just enjoying the show.

Is it wrong that this show broke the mold from the previous generations? What would you say to an adult who still likes Disney flicks? Specifically the "Princess Films". Is it wrong as an adult to have enjoyed "Tangled", or still enjoy "Beauty and the Beast"? People in this thread talk about enjoying other cartoons, who's primary audience is children, but have worked to include elements that can entertain adults. What's so wrong about a girls show doing the same?

 

[replicashooter]

I would agree that they are over-compensating in some sense. I feel reserved about calling they're state itself to be a feminine one though. It's the same reason why men become attracted to anime girls. They want to protect them, befriend them, and other instinctually masculine behaviors and feelings. I feel this is no different. Masculinity is drawn to femininity which MLP is.

Since MLP is feminine and they are engaging in activities surrounding it, yes their engagement in it can seen as an engagement in a feminine activity. I still wouldn't say they themselves are feminine. I have been surprised on multiple times to meet some "bro" that was very into anime and moe stuff. So I think MLP fandom goes beyond a guy himself being feminine.

Wheras you feel reserved I simply tell you the first thing I thought upon watching the video with no self censorship. This appears to have twisted a few knickers for some reason, but hey ho and on we go.

As for the bold part, not too long ago cooking was looked at as feminine and not a mans role. Seems stupid when you think about it now especially with the rise of the celebrity chef et al.

This on the other hand is something completely different, you'd think it was quite bizarre if the chaps in the video were running around in cowboys and indian outfits shooting each other with cap guns and suchlike at their age, this is similar - but weirder.

 

[injurai]

I've never met them, don't know anyone like them and this is the first I've ever heard of this phenomenon. If my post strikes you a pseudo intellectual then please feel free to critique it and issue a rebuff on the points I have raised.

I look forward to your response.



Wow, I really have hit a nerve with you haven't I? Here I am simply stating my perspective on what I saw in the video (can you deny any of what I have stated - only in that context, keep your child out of it) and you create a pastiche of my post in an attempt to attack me with it?

Why do you react so aggressively to what I said?

yo replica, from reading your post in the Egyptian thread and now hear, my advice is to try not and take the "flame" out of these sorts of discussions. Nothing is gained by trying to look at these from a removed objective standpoint. I would argue that people feel threatened by your motives when you try so hard to dispel the suspicions over your intentions.

Just a bit of advice.

 

[judhudson]

I personally know a shitload of females that are 'bronies' especially in the cosplay/costuming community. They just dont get pointed out, because they are females and to most people, are 'normally accepted' for liking the show, while us males are the outcast and get the most shit tossed at us.

 

[NinjaBoiX]

Why does every video have to have comments to Amir0x?

I didn't see any. I never see any, yet it's always mentioned that when a gaffer links to YT, there is always comments against Ami. But I never see it, and I usually have a look, for shadenfraude sake.

I think it's an urban legend.

 

[demidar]

I've never met them, don't know anyone like them and this is the first I've ever heard of this phenomenon. If my post strikes you a pseudo intellectual then please feel free to critique it and issue a rebuff on the points I have raised.

I look forward to your response.

These guys are lonely. They found like people through a show whose motto is Friendship (whether they adhere to that or not is another thread). They now celebrate their newfound friendship with social outings. They may still be awkward.

Boom.