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[Drencrom]

You should reread what he said. You apparently understood it very poorly.

Either that or you're implying your gay friend is stupid... I doubt that was your intent though.

I missed the 'like' bit when I read the comment, my bad.

It's still a shitty comparison though.



EDIT: Shit, I should've gone with the "your implication about me being stupid made me sad because i take everything people say on the internet personally"-charade.

Too late now I guess.

 

[TheChaos]

The comparison that Billiechu made was made between anti-gay people and the anti-MLP people, not between gays and MLP fans. The reason for this, as explained, is both get upset about things that have no effect on them.

You should feel badly about your inability to understand simple English and propensity for posting shitty gifs. Very badly.

Well, maybe not too badly because you're apparently not alone in your poor comprehension skills.

Wow, hit a nerve there? It doesn't matter as My Little Pony has nothing to do with marriage or basic rights. Either way, the comparison makes absolutely no sense as marriage should be seen as a basic human right as opposed to...people not liking a sub-culture devoted to a children's show. What on earth to they have in common?

I have nothing against the show, but making that comparison is selling the gay rights movement short.

 

[robotzombie]

I don't like ponies and I kind of wish the fad would fade, but I can't believe people let a fandom affect them so much. OMGZ your existence affects me because you enjoy a TV show that might not be targeted at you.

I think it gets to people more due to them seeing it as insincere and ironic nonsense

 

[Amibguous Cad]

So in what respects are they similair? I mean we are talking about the OP here right?
So how is thinking some grown up guys getting all gitty in the girls toy section is rather disturbing (but not denying them the right to do so) similair to wanting to deny same-sex couples the right to marry?

People being judgmental about something they may find aesthetically unattractive or even repulsive that is ultimately harmless.

 

[Parallax]

still upset about that Link gender swap?

no, not a fan of unnecessary long posts that can be summed up in a sentence

 

[Professor Beef]

I think it gets to people more due to them seeing it as insincere and ironic nonsense

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[Chuckie]

People being judgmental about something they may find aesthetically unattractive or even repulsive that is ultimately harmless.

But the analogy totally fails because in one case we are talking about finding a hobby weird and the other denying someones fundamental rights.

So why was it chosen? Pure shock-value?

 

[Dude Abides]

Wow, hit a nerve there? It doesn't matter as My Little Pony has nothing to do with marriage or basic rights. Either way, the comparison makes absolutely no sense as marriage should be seen as a basic human right as opposed to...people not liking a sub-culture devoted to a children's show. What on earth to they have in common?

I have nothing against the show, but making that comparison is selling the gay rights movement short.

I (and Ambiguous Cad) already explained why that post of yours was stupid and you still don't grasp it. I could explain it to you again, but I can't understand it for you.

 

[Arjen]

People being judgmental about something they may find aesthetically unattractive or even repulsive that is ultimately harmless.

But i didn't see anyone denying basic civil rights because of what they are/ watch.
Seriously, being judged and not getting the same rights is not even remotly the same.

 

[TheChaos]

People being judgmental about something they may find aesthetically unattractive or even repulsive that is ultimately harmless.

The gay marriage debate is far, far more complicated than that. It brings religion into debate, as homosexuality is condemned by Abrahamic religions. How far will people be willing to give up their religious teachings to allow human rights?

There's also the scientific aspect of same-sex attraction involved, and our limited amount of case-studies involved. Do we have enough evidence to claim that homosexuality is 100% genetic?

Again, I have nothing against the show, I agree that the show is harmless. I admit to liking feminine or cutesy things *points to avatar*, but please don't equate disliking a children's show to something as complicated and global as the denial of basic human rights.

 

[Kokonoe]

No matter where on the internet, My Little Pony Friendship is Magic topics always have tons of pages about how people are disgusted by those who like it, or who mock them for it. Don't really see the issue for liking something that isn't what society deems the norm of opinions.

I don't like the show myself, however.

 

[Amibguous Cad]

But the analogy totally fails because in one case we are talking about finding a hobby weird and the other denying someones fundamental rights.

So why was it chosen? Pure shock-value?

For the second time: analogies work because two things are similar in some ways and dissimilar in others. Is this really so difficult to grasp? Pointing out innumerable differences won't undermine the analogy because not everything has to be similar for an analogy to work. All an analogy needs to do is be similar in one relevant respect, though Billiechu could perhaps have been more clear in what exactly she thought that similarity was.

 

[RM8]

Hobbies are weird, almost all of them. Collecting miniature trains (I mean, lol, why?), spending hours in front of a screen with a controller in hand, watching sweaty half-naked men pretending to hurt each other.

Again, I'm puzzled by this very specific hate towards liking a cartoon. People who claim liking Adventure Time don't get so much hate as people claiming liking My Little Pony, and no, I don't think Adventure Time was made specifically for males in their mid twenties or older.

 

[OriginofHysteria]

Hobbies are weird, almost all of them. Collecting miniature trains (I mean, lol, why?), spending hours in front of a screen with a controller in hand, watching sweaty half-naked men pretending to hurt each other.

Again, I'm puzzled by this very specific hate towards liking a cartoon. People who claim liking Adventure Time don't get so much hate as people claiming liking My Little Pony, and no, I don't think Adventure Time was made specifically for males in their mid twenties or older.

But there are themes that relate to males in their mid-twenties which is it why appeals to so many of them. The same can be said about cartoons like Rocko's Modern Life.

MLP however does not.

 

[RM8]

But there are themes that relate to males in their mid-twenties which is it why appeals to so many of them. The same can be said about cartoons like Rocko's Modern Life.

MLP however does not.

I've never seen MLP to be honest, but if it's like other "girl" cartoons like The Powerpuff Girls, then I don't think it's that weird.

 

[daycru]

I actually can kind of see how Sonic is liked by Conservatives, more so than My Little Pony.

Sonic is pretty much the Independent American stereotype...red/white/blue, independent, "cool", and with a "strong sense of justice" and doesn't bow down to anyone. He's how most Conservatives see themselves, battling against the evils of modern society and liberal scientists (i.e. Doctor Robotnik).

Only thing that isn't conservative about Sonic is his dislike of guns.

 

[Fusebox]

Hobbies are weird, almost all of them. Collecting miniature trains (I mean, lol, why?), spending hours in front of a screen with a controller in hand, watching sweaty half-naked men pretending to hurt each other.

None of these hobbies were created for little girls though.

 

[Jintor]

I've never seen MLP to be honest, but if it's like other "girl" cartoons like The Powerpuff Girls, then I don't think it's that weird.

PPG is probably more 'subversive' (it's not blatantly every-episode-has-a-moral-based like MLP, other than that one episode) but MLP is still pretty alright.

None of these hobbies were created for little girls though.

Liking shit outside of your demographic is so weird.

 

[vidcons]

no, not a fan of unnecessary long posts that can be summed up in a sentence

don't post

The comparison that Billiechu made was made between anti-gay people and the anti-MLP people, not between gays and MLP fans. The reason for this, as explained, is both get upset about things that have no effect on them.

You should feel badly about your inability to understand simple English and propensity for posting shitty gifs. Very badly.

Well, maybe not too badly because you're apparently not alone in your poor comprehension skills.

Seriously? It's a fucking joke of an opinion. "It doesn't affect you." That's bullshit dismissive tactics. People want to pull that fucking card when they're doing something odd or sketchy (like running around and going to pony conventions, wacking off to children's cartoons, and squealing in toy aisles because their favorite doll is in at the age of 20+) and then be like "I'm being oppressed!" when someone calls them out.

Fuck that. /r/jailbait did the same shit when their creepy child gazing was censored.

It should be obvious not everything that doesn't affect you is a-okay.

 

[RM8]

None of these hobbies were created for little girls though.

If a little girl likes wrestling (and it does happen), is it disgusting and she deserves hate?

 

[Jintor]

Or an adult female fan likes animation clearly targeted at the 8-14 male demographic. Disgusting, right?

 

[Fusebox]

If a little girl likes wrestling (and it does happen), is it disgusting and she deserves hate?

Of course not, that'd be cute. There's nothing cute about grown dudes obsessing over little girls toys though. I don't think it's disgusting, I don't hate them, I just think its creepy. Enjoy the show if you want but bronys go way beyond that into creepy obsession.

To summarise, watching MLP isn't creepy, but bronys are fucking creepy.

 

[Parallax]

don't post

force my hand.

Or an adult female fan likes animation clearly targeted at the 8-14 male demographic. Disgusting, right?

how far does she take it.

 

[FlyinJ]

What I don't understand is- why is it only My Little Pony? Why aren't 25 year old bros out buying up Dora the Explorer merchandise and attending Dora conferences, or any of the other dozens of cartoons geared towards young girls? What is the appeal of MLP, where from what I can tell it's pretty much the exact same level of writing and animation as other comparable modern cartoons for young girls.

 

[Violet_0]

I've never seen MLP to be honest, but if it's like other "girl" cartoons like The Powerpuff Girls, then I don't think it's that weird.

It's not really like Powerpuff Girls (which I wouldn't exactly call a girly cartoon). PPG is more comparable to something like Dexter's Lab or Teenage Robot. The humor and tone of these shows are similar though. I don't really dislike MLP, but PPG is definitely the better series

 

[Fusebox]

Jintor please tell me you're not a brony.

 

[Jintor]

If you don't know how far adult women can take fandom, you've never been part of a full-on fandom.

A lot of Henry Jenkin's work in the fan communities of the 80s and 90s is pretty interesting regarding this. Surprisingly, a lot of it focuses on female fans and their crazy shit.

Jintor please tell me you're not a brony.

What if I was?

Spoiler

Adventure Time is better

 

[KissVibes]

Of course not, that'd be cute. There's nothing cute about grown dudes obsessing over little girls toys though. I don't think it's disgusting, I don't hate them, I just think its creepy. Enjoy the show if you want but bronys go way beyond that into creepy obsession.

To summarise, watching MLP isn't creepy, but bronys are fucking creepy.

Why do you keep assigning gender labels to things?

What I don't understand is- why is it only My Little Pony? Why aren't 25 year old bros out buying up Dora the Explorer merchandise and attending Dora conferences, or any of the other dozens of cartoons geared towards young girls? What is the appeal of MLP, where from what I can tell it's pretty much the exact same level of writing and animation as other comparable modern cartoons for young girls.

Because it's a niche thing that previously hadn't been latched onto by any real group, including the group it targets. This made it a perfect conduit for what you guys refer to as "outcasts" and "weirdos" to latch onto as a whole and find acceptance and friendship. It's kind of a great thing. Much better than latching onto teen girls and creating communities based primarily on said teens sexuality.

 

[Fusebox]

Why do you keep assigning gender labels to things?

Anyone trying to claim MLB isn't for girls is just being disingenuous.

 

[rpmurphy]

It's not really like Powerpuff Girls (which I wouldn't exactly call a girly cartoon). PPG is more comparable to something like Dexter's Lab or Teenage Robot. The humor and tone of these shows are similar though. I don't really dislike MLP, but PPG is definitely the better series

PPG has the superhero action theme going for it so it's not too surprising that it crossed demographics.

 

[teruterubozu]

Why do you keep assigning gender labels to things?

Isn't the very term "brony" a gender-infused label?

 

[RM8]

There are creepy obsessive fans for everything, honestly. And okay, let's assume MLP isn't as male-friendly as other cartoons - to me that has zero importance since I don't care about most cartoons, period, let alone their fans. Sorry but I have still to read a good reason why pony fans are so evil and deserve my hate so much.

 

[KissVibes]

Anyone trying to claim MLB isn't for girls is just being disingenuous.

It shouldn't need to be defined as a girl thing or boy thing. It should just be a thing that people can choose to like or not.

Isn't the very term "brony" a gender-infused label?

Yeah, it is. Never said that was a good term either, but female fans use it too and it's catchy, giving it play outside of those communities.

 

[perfectchaos007]

Good stuff

the sequel...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYPXMyTmceY&feature=related

 

[lopaz]

Of course not, that'd be cute. There's nothing cute about grown dudes obsessing over little girls toys though. I don't think it's disgusting, I don't hate them, I just think its creepy. Enjoy the show if you want but bronys go way beyond that into creepy obsession.

To summarise, watching MLP isn't creepy, but bronys are fucking creepy.

IN YOUR OPINION WHICH NO ONE CARES ABOUT

my fave is pinkie pie <3

 

[vidcons]

There are creepy obsessive fans for everything, honestly. And okay, let's assume MLP isn't as male-friendly as other cartoons - to me that has zero importance since I don't care about most cartoons, period, let alone their fans. Sorry but I have still to read a good reason why pony fans are so evil and deserve my hate so much.

enabling people to be perpetual children is one reason

 

[Dude Abides]

don't post



Seriously? It's a fucking joke of an opinion. "It doesn't affect you." That's bullshit dismissive tactics. People want to pull that fucking card when they're doing something odd or sketchy (like running around and going to pony conventions, wacking off to children's cartoons, and squealing in toy aisles because their favorite doll is in at the age of 20+) and then be like "I'm being oppressed!" when someone calls them out.

Fuck that. /r/jailbait did the same shit when their creepy child gazing was censored.

It should be obvious not everything that doesn't affect you is a-okay.

What are you doing to eliminate this dire threat to propriety and decent society? Organizing a brony pogrom?

 

[RM8]

enabling people to be perpetual children is one reason

I wish measuring someone's maturity was that easy.

 

[vidcons]

I wish measuring someone's maturity was that easy.

it's p easy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4u62iXLTrWs

 

[Antiwhippy]

enabling people to be perpetual children is one reason

I believe this quote applies here.

“Critics who treat 'adult' as a term of approval, instead of as a merely descriptive term, cannot be adult themselves. To be concerned about being grown up, to admire the grown up because it is grown up, to blush at the suspicion of being childish; these things are the marks of childhood and adolescence. And in childhood and adolescence they are, in moderation, healthy symptoms. Young things ought to want to grow. But to carry on into middle life or even into early manhood this concern about being adult is a mark of really arrested development. When I was ten, I read fairy tales in secret and would have been ashamed if I had been found doing so. Now that I am fifty I read them openly. When I became a man I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up.”

 

[lopaz]

It should be obvious not everything that doesn't affect you is a-okay.

and just why the fuckity flip flop not?

 

[djtiesto]

I thought people were all over their hate for bronies by now? Don't see how or why it's really a problem if people are into the show (I've seen a few episodes and while I enjoyed what I've seen, wouldn't consider myself a hardcore devotee or anything).

 

[JumpJeff84]

I haven't seen the show ever, so I can't really weigh in with an opinion.

Is it a subversive cartoon with hidden adult themes? I'm genuinely curious...

 

[Jintor]

and just why the fuckity flip flop not?

Because otherwise how else are you supposed to throw judgements around

I haven't seen the show ever, so I can't really weigh in with an opinion.

Is it a subversive cartoon with hidden adult themes? I'm genuinely curious...

Nah, it's just a well-made animated show targeted at little girls.

 

[OriginofHysteria]

I haven't seen the show ever, so I can't really weigh in with an opinion.

Is it a subversive cartoon with hidden adult themes? I'm genuinely curious...

Nope, it's just a regular cartoon aimed for 6 year old girls with no subtext lol.

 

[7Th]

I've never seen MLP to be honest, but if it's like other "girl" cartoons like The Powerpuff Girls, then I don't think it's that weird.

PPG is closer to Dexter's Lab in terms of humour and action than to MLP.

 

[lopaz]

I haven't seen the show ever, so I can't really weigh in with an opinion.

Is it a subversive cartoon with hidden adult themes? I'm genuinely curious...

It's mostly about teaching good Christian kids about GAY BUTT SECKS

 

[RM8]

it's p easy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4u62iXLTrWs

Do you think you can know that all of them are irresponsible, unproductive, immature and emotionally unstable because they have a weird hobby?

 

[Jintor]

It does have easter eggs aimed at an older-level viewership (Big Lebowski ponies, Dr Who ponies, terrible puns) but they're fairly benign.

 

[ckohler]

What I don't understand is- why is it only My Little Pony? Why aren't 25 year old bros out buying up Dora the Explorer merchandise and attending Dora conferences, or any of the other dozens of cartoons geared towards young girls? What is the appeal of MLP, where from what I can tell it's pretty much the exact same level of writing and animation as other comparable modern cartoons for young girls.

To be fair, I think Dora the Explorer is for like 2-6 year olds and My Little Pony is meant for girls 6-12 or something.

I watched an episode of My Little Pony once just out of sheer curiosity (I kept seeing it mentioned here) and the writing certainly wasn't "Can you spot the apple?" stuff like you see on Dora. The writing wasn't bad and the characters were charming. Did you ever watch Dexter's Lab? You know that character Dee Dee, the sister who was a free spirit and caused all sorts of trouble for Dexter? Well, there's a pony like that in this show.

Anyway, I personally don't have a problem with anyone (even grown men) being a fan of something as harmless as My Little Pony just as long as they don't take it too far. The problem is that too many have... and some even go all Rule 34 on it.